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Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view state
usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.
Apr 19 '06 #1
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check this out for AJAX propose under .NET

" "Atlas" is a free framework for building a new generation of richer, more
interactive, highly personalized standards based Web applications."

Website: http://atlas.asp.net/
Documentation: http://atlas.asp.net/docs/Default.aspx
Best Atlas Tutorial Video:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo..._net_atlas.wmv

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Denmark)

"Sharon" <no*****@null.void> escreveu na mensagem
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Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
state usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.

Apr 19 '06 #2
Besides ATLAS, which is for ASP.NET 2.0, go to sourceforge.net and look up
Anthem.net and MagicAjax. Both are free, open-source, and easy to learn.
Peter

--
Co-founder, Eggheadcafe.com developer portal:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com
UnBlog:
http://petesbloggerama.blogspot.com


"Sharon" wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view state
usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.

Apr 19 '06 #3
Thanks Bruno.
I'm already using Ajax.NET:
http://ajax.schwarz-interactive.de/c...e/default.aspx
Is Atlas better suited to use asp.net server controls?
Sharon.

"Bruno Alexandre" <br*******@filtrarte.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
check this out for AJAX propose under .NET

" "Atlas" is a free framework for building a new generation of richer,
more interactive, highly personalized standards based Web applications."

Website: http://atlas.asp.net/
Documentation: http://atlas.asp.net/docs/Default.aspx
Best Atlas Tutorial Video:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo..._net_atlas.wmv

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Denmark)

"Sharon" <no*****@null.void> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net
controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
state usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.


Apr 19 '06 #4
Thanks Peter.
I'm looking for the ajax solution that works best with asp.net server
controls.
Sharon.

"Peter Bromberg [C# MVP]" <pb*******@yahoo.nospammin.com> wrote in message
news:AD**********************************@microsof t.com...
Besides ATLAS, which is for ASP.NET 2.0, go to sourceforge.net and look up
Anthem.net and MagicAjax. Both are free, open-source, and easy to learn.
Peter

--
Co-founder, Eggheadcafe.com developer portal:
http://www.eggheadcafe.com
UnBlog:
http://petesbloggerama.blogspot.com


"Sharon" wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net
controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
state
usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.

Apr 19 '06 #5
Soon I saw the tutorial video under Atlas website, I just run and test it in
Brinkster Hosting, were I have my websites, and even with the upload of the
Microsoft.Web.Atlas.dll on my space (under bin folder) it run sweat and nice
:-)
I never thought that a DLL in Share Hosting could be so easy to upload and
use :-)

and because it's so easy to implement (just a few tags) and the tags are
exactly like .NET well, they from Microsoft so, how easy could it be, and
it's free :-)

download the video tutorial "Scott's To Do List" and see what I'm talking
about :-)

I do not think that I will need another AJAX tool, Atlas it's the ideal tool
for me :-)

--
Thank you in Advance.

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Denmark)

"Sharon" <no*****@null.void> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Thanks Bruno.
I'm already using Ajax.NET:
http://ajax.schwarz-interactive.de/c...e/default.aspx
Is Atlas better suited to use asp.net server controls?
Sharon.

"Bruno Alexandre" <br*******@filtrarte.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
check this out for AJAX propose under .NET

" "Atlas" is a free framework for building a new generation of richer,
more interactive, highly personalized standards based Web applications."

Website: http://atlas.asp.net/
Documentation: http://atlas.asp.net/docs/Default.aspx
Best Atlas Tutorial Video:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo..._net_atlas.wmv

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Denmark)

"Sharon" <no*****@null.void> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net
controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
state usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.



Apr 19 '06 #6
Hello,

ATLAS is what we are going to be using in some months.

In the mean time, ASP .net 2.0, ships "script callbacks", it has some
drawbacks (e.g.: it seems that the viewstate travels with each call), but for
some scenario can be a good idea to use it:
http://www.developer.com/net/asp/article.php/3485991
http://west-wind.com/weblog/posts/2302.aspx

Good luck
Braulio
--
/// ------------------------------
/// Braulio DÃ*ez Colaborador DNM
///
/// http://www.dotnetmania.com
/// My Site (.net Tips): http://www.bdiez.com
/// ------------------------------


"Sharon" wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view state
usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.

Apr 19 '06 #7
Yep, thats what i'm looking for.
Thanks for the video.
Sharon.

"Bruno Alexandre" <br*******@filtrarte.com> wrote in message
news:uT**************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Soon I saw the tutorial video under Atlas website, I just run and test it
in Brinkster Hosting, were I have my websites, and even with the upload of
the Microsoft.Web.Atlas.dll on my space (under bin folder) it run sweat
and nice :-)
I never thought that a DLL in Share Hosting could be so easy to upload and
use :-)

and because it's so easy to implement (just a few tags) and the tags are
exactly like .NET well, they from Microsoft so, how easy could it be, and
it's free :-)

download the video tutorial "Scott's To Do List" and see what I'm talking
about :-)

I do not think that I will need another AJAX tool, Atlas it's the ideal
tool for me :-)

--
Thank you in Advance.

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Denmark)

"Sharon" <no*****@null.void> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Thanks Bruno.
I'm already using Ajax.NET:
http://ajax.schwarz-interactive.de/c...e/default.aspx
Is Atlas better suited to use asp.net server controls?
Sharon.

"Bruno Alexandre" <br*******@filtrarte.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
check this out for AJAX propose under .NET

" "Atlas" is a free framework for building a new generation of richer,
more interactive, highly personalized standards based Web applications."

Website: http://atlas.asp.net/
Documentation: http://atlas.asp.net/docs/Default.aspx
Best Atlas Tutorial Video:
http://download.microsoft.com/downlo..._net_atlas.wmv

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Denmark)

"Sharon" <no*****@null.void> escreveu na mensagem
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net
controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
state usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.



Apr 19 '06 #8
Thanks Braulio.
Does "script callbacks" have any advantage over Atlas?
Sharon.

"Braulio Diez" <br**************@yahoo.es> wrote in message
news:61**********************************@microsof t.com...
Hello,

ATLAS is what we are going to be using in some months.

In the mean time, ASP .net 2.0, ships "script callbacks", it has some
drawbacks (e.g.: it seems that the viewstate travels with each call), but
for
some scenario can be a good idea to use it:
http://www.developer.com/net/asp/article.php/3485991
http://west-wind.com/weblog/posts/2302.aspx

Good luck
Braulio
--
/// ------------------------------
/// Braulio D?ez Colaborador DNM
///
/// http://www.dotnetmania.com
/// My Site (.net Tips): http://www.bdiez.com
/// ------------------------------


"Sharon" wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net
controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
state
usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.

Apr 19 '06 #9
Well...

Atlas is more powerful, but the unique advantage of script callbacks is
that they are in production (ASP .net 2.0 ships script call bakcs), and ATLAS
hasn't been officially released.

Another good point of Script Call Back is that they are quite easy to
use. The main drawback... is not a powerful thing :-(

Bye
Braulio

--
/// ------------------------------
/// Braulio DÃ*ez Colaborador DNM
///
/// http://www.dotnetmania.com
/// My Site (.net Tips): http://www.bdiez.com
/// ------------------------------


"Sharon" wrote:
Thanks Braulio.
Does "script callbacks" have any advantage over Atlas?
Sharon.

"Braulio Diez" <br**************@yahoo.es> wrote in message
news:61**********************************@microsof t.com...
Hello,

ATLAS is what we are going to be using in some months.

In the mean time, ASP .net 2.0, ships "script callbacks", it has some
drawbacks (e.g.: it seems that the viewstate travels with each call), but
for
some scenario can be a good idea to use it:
http://www.developer.com/net/asp/article.php/3485991
http://west-wind.com/weblog/posts/2302.aspx

Good luck
Braulio
--
/// ------------------------------
/// Braulio D?ez Colaborador DNM
///
/// http://www.dotnetmania.com
/// My Site (.net Tips): http://www.bdiez.com
/// ------------------------------


"Sharon" wrote:
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net
controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
state
usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.


Apr 19 '06 #10
I get the picture :)
Thanks again,
Sharon.

"Braulio Diez" <br**************@yahoo.es> wrote in message
news:28**********************************@microsof t.com...
Well...

Atlas is more powerful, but the unique advantage of script callbacks is
that they are in production (ASP .net 2.0 ships script call bakcs), and
ATLAS
hasn't been officially released.

Another good point of Script Call Back is that they are quite easy to
use. The main drawback... is not a powerful thing :-(

Bye
Braulio

--
/// ------------------------------
/// Braulio D?ez Colaborador DNM
///
/// http://www.dotnetmania.com
/// My Site (.net Tips): http://www.bdiez.com
/// ------------------------------


"Sharon" wrote:
Thanks Braulio.
Does "script callbacks" have any advantage over Atlas?
Sharon.

"Braulio Diez" <br**************@yahoo.es> wrote in message
news:61**********************************@microsof t.com...
> Hello,
>
> ATLAS is what we are going to be using in some months.
>
> In the mean time, ASP .net 2.0, ships "script callbacks", it has some
> drawbacks (e.g.: it seems that the viewstate travels with each call),
> but
> for
> some scenario can be a good idea to use it:
>
>
> http://www.developer.com/net/asp/article.php/3485991
> http://west-wind.com/weblog/posts/2302.aspx
>
> Good luck
> Braulio
>
>
> --
> /// ------------------------------
> /// Braulio D?ez Colaborador DNM
> ///
> /// http://www.dotnetmania.com
> /// My Site (.net Tips): http://www.bdiez.com
> /// ------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> "Sharon" wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net
>> controls.
>> What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
>> A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
>> and send the html string back to javascript.
>> A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
>> state
>> usage.
>> Thanks,
>> Sharon.
>>
>>
>>


Apr 19 '06 #11
Here are the details about using the built in AJAX capabilities of ASP.NET
2.0:
http://SteveOrr.net/articles/Ajax.aspx

--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP
http://SteveOrr.net

"Sharon" <no*****@null.void> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
Hi all,
I was wondering if anyone had experience using ajax with asp.net controls.
What i'm looking for, are ways to implement and possible problems.
A way to implement could be rendering the control on the server side,
and send the html string back to javascript.
A possible problem is the control post back behavior and control view
state usage.
Thanks,
Sharon.

Apr 19 '06 #12
I've been working with ATLAS a lot recently. The form variables do get
passed back, it seems that everything still goes through the initial
stages of page generation. So control view state and form field
updates don't pose a problem. And yes, you can use the control's
render method, wrapping your own HtmlTextWriter around a StringWriter
based on a StringBuilder, to get the HTML text to return to the client.

Apr 20 '06 #13
Considering that ATLAS is still CTP,
did you encounter any problems, bugs?

"Russell" <ru*****@goisc.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
I've been working with ATLAS a lot recently. The form variables do get
passed back, it seems that everything still goes through the initial
stages of page generation. So control view state and form field
updates don't pose a problem. And yes, you can use the control's
render method, wrapping your own HtmlTextWriter around a StringWriter
based on a StringBuilder, to get the HTML text to return to the client.

Apr 20 '06 #14

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