Hi, friends,
In our ASP app, we have a lot of style definitions in our .css file. Now, in
asp.net, .css is encouraged to continue to use, or is better to be replaced
by something new in .net???
Any reference papers?
Thanks a lot.
10  1087 
CSS is quite encouraged to be used.
Nothing in .Net replaces CSS.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
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"Andrew" <An****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2E**********************************@microsof t.com... Hi, friends,
In our ASP app, we have a lot of style definitions in our .css file. Now, in
asp.net, .css is encouraged to continue to use, or is better to be replaced
by something new in .net???
Any reference papers?
Thanks a lot.
IMHO it is actually very good practice to combine the two, skinning, and
css. One of the nice things about using skinning and css, regardless of
whether or not if you only have one theme, is that you get WSIWYG if you set
the page.theme, and the page.stylesheettheme in the IDE. Not to mention the
fact that your css will automatically go in the <head> tag. I have actually
set both of these properties in my config as such :
<system.web>
<pages theme="default" styleSheetTheme="default" />
..... other config suff
</system.web>
Using the location element in the config, you can also change the theme per
file / directory. Or you could just over ride the theme in the page itself.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... CSS is quite encouraged to be used.
Nothing in .Net replaces CSS.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Andrew" <An****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2E**********************************@microsof t.com... Hi, friends,
In our ASP app, we have a lot of style definitions in our .css file. Now,
in
asp.net, .css is encouraged to continue to use, or is better to be
replaced
by something new in .net???
Any reference papers?
Thanks a lot.
Is skinning supported cross-browser ?
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Tim Cartwright" <ti************@nospam.us-interactive.com> wrote in message
news:eF**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... IMHO it is actually very good practice to combine the two, skinning, and css. One of the
nice things about using skinning and css, regardless of whether or not if you only have
one theme, is that you get WSIWYG if you set the page.theme, and the
page.stylesheettheme in the IDE. Not to mention the fact that your css will
automatically go in the <head> tag. I have actually set both of these properties in my
config as such :
<system.web>
<pages theme="default" styleSheetTheme="default" />
..... other config suff
</system.web>
Using the location element in the config, you can also change the theme per file /
directory. Or you could just over ride the theme in the page itself.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... CSS is quite encouraged to be used.
Nothing in .Net replaces CSS.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Andrew" <An****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2E**********************************@microsof t.com... Hi, friends,
In our ASP app, we have a lot of style definitions in our .css file. Now, in
asp.net, .css is encouraged to continue to use, or is better to be replaced
by something new in .net???
Any reference papers?
Thanks a lot.
Here is a very nice tutorial / explanation Juan. http://msconline.maconstate.edu/tuto...pnet10-09.aspx
Also to answer your question, yes, they are cross browser.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:e7**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... Is skinning supported cross-browser ?
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Tim Cartwright" <ti************@nospam.us-interactive.com> wrote in
message news:eF**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... IMHO it is actually very good practice to combine the two, skinning, and
css. One of the nice things about using skinning and css, regardless of
whether or not if you only have one theme, is that you get WSIWYG if you
set the page.theme, and the page.stylesheettheme in the IDE. Not to
mention the fact that your css will automatically go in the <head> tag. I
have actually set both of these properties in my config as such :
<system.web>
<pages theme="default" styleSheetTheme="default" />
..... other config suff
</system.web>
Using the location element in the config, you can also change the theme
per file / directory. Or you could just over ride the theme in the page
itself.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... CSS is quite encouraged to be used.
Nothing in .Net replaces CSS.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Andrew" <An****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2E**********************************@microsof t.com...
Hi, friends,
In our ASP app, we have a lot of style definitions in our .css file.
Now, in
asp.net, .css is encouraged to continue to use, or is better to be
replaced
by something new in .net???
Any reference papers?
Thanks a lot.
Thanks, Tim.
I haven't gone too deep into skinning.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Tim Cartwright" <ti************@nospam.us-interactive.com> wrote in message
news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Here is a very nice tutorial / explanation Juan.
http://msconline.maconstate.edu/tuto...pnet10-09.aspx Also to
answer your question, yes, they are cross browser.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:e7**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... Is skinning supported cross-browser ?
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Tim Cartwright" <ti************@nospam.us-interactive.com> wrote in message
news:eF**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... IMHO it is actually very good practice to combine the two, skinning, and css. One of
the nice things about using skinning and css, regardless of whether or not if you only
have one theme, is that you get WSIWYG if you set the page.theme, and the
page.stylesheettheme in the IDE. Not to mention the fact that your css will
automatically go in the <head> tag. I have actually set both of these properties in my
config as such :
<system.web>
<pages theme="default" styleSheetTheme="default" />
..... other config suff
</system.web>
Using the location element in the config, you can also change the theme per file /
directory. Or you could just over ride the theme in the page itself.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
CSS is quite encouraged to be used.
Nothing in .Net replaces CSS.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Andrew" <An****@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:2E**********************************@microsof t.com...
> Hi, friends,
>
> In our ASP app, we have a lot of style definitions in our .css file. Now, in
> asp.net, .css is encouraged to continue to use, or is better to be replaced
> by something new in .net???
>
> Any reference papers?
> Thanks a lot.
On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:13:22 -0400, "Juan T. Llibre"
<no***********@nowhere.com> wrote:
Maybe some fine-tuning is needed for a true "cross-browser" experience?
All of the skin and theme work happens server side (see "Under the
Hood in http://odetocode.com/Articles/423.aspx). If doubt any cross-
browser issues are due to a deficiency in the theme/skin feature. I'd
suspect the problem is with styles or properties the desginer used in
a skin / theme.
--
Scott http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
re: I'd suspect the problem is with styles or properties
the designer used in a skin / theme.
Two out out three browsers rendered correctly, while a third did not.
re:All of the skin and theme work happens server side
There's some "fine-tuning" needed.
I checked the source for those tables for FF, IE and Opera and they're identical.
Maybe the issue is with Firefox not being identified correctly,
and therefore FF is not getting HTML it can understand well ?
FF *should* render standard HTML the same way IE and Opera render it.
Check out the source. I was surprised when I found them to be the identical.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Scott Allen" <sc***@nospam.odetocode.com> wrote in message
news:ui********************************@4ax.com... On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:13:22 -0400, "Juan T. Llibre"
<no***********@nowhere.com> wrote:
Maybe some fine-tuning is needed for a true "cross-browser" experience?
All of the skin and theme work happens server side (see "Under the
Hood in http://odetocode.com/Articles/423.aspx). If doubt any cross-
browser issues are due to a deficiency in the theme/skin feature. I'd
suspect the problem is with styles or properties the desginer used in
a skin / theme.
--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
> I haven't gone too deep into skinning.
You mean, you've only gone "skin-deep?"
--
;-),
Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Complex things are made up of
Lots of simple things.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:Oh**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Thanks, Tim.
I haven't gone too deep into skinning.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Tim Cartwright" <ti************@nospam.us-interactive.com> wrote in
message news:eF**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Here is a very nice tutorial / explanation Juan.
http://msconline.maconstate.edu/tuto...pnet10-09.aspx
Also to answer your question, yes, they are cross browser.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:e7**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... Is skinning supported cross-browser ?
Well, actually sometimes the issue with rendering to Firefox is that the
built in browscaps are outdated, and do not recognize FireFox as an uplevel
browser, so the asp.net engine outputs exactly what it thinks is the
appropriate html for Firefox. Read http://www.asptoday.com/Content.aspx?id=2339 and http://slingfive.com/pages/code/browserCaps/ for more info.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ud*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... re: I'd suspect the problem is with styles or properties
the designer used in a skin / theme.
Two out out three browsers rendered correctly, while a third did not.
re:All of the skin and theme work happens server side
There's some "fine-tuning" needed.
I checked the source for those tables for FF, IE and Opera and they're
identical.
Maybe the issue is with Firefox not being identified correctly,
and therefore FF is not getting HTML it can understand well ?
FF *should* render standard HTML the same way IE and Opera render it.
Check out the source. I was surprised when I found them to be the
identical.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Scott Allen" <sc***@nospam.odetocode.com> wrote in message
news:ui********************************@4ax.com... On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:13:22 -0400, "Juan T. Llibre"
<no***********@nowhere.com> wrote:
Maybe some fine-tuning is needed for a true "cross-browser" experience?
All of the skin and theme work happens server side (see "Under the
Hood in http://odetocode.com/Articles/423.aspx). If doubt any cross-
browser issues are due to a deficiency in the theme/skin feature. I'd
suspect the problem is with styles or properties the desginer used in
a skin / theme.
--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
re:
Read http://www.asptoday.com/Content.aspx?id=2339 and
http://slingfive.com/pages/code/browserCaps/ for more info.
Yes, I've recommended those very same links, many times, here.
That's what I implied in this statement :
Maybe the issue is with Firefox not being identified correctly,
and therefore FF is not getting HTML it can understand well ?
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Tim Cartwright" <ti************@nospam.us-interactive.com> wrote in message
news:e9**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... Well, actually sometimes the issue with rendering to Firefox is that the built in
browscaps are outdated, and do not recognize FireFox as an uplevel browser, so the
asp.net engine outputs exactly what it thinks is the appropriate html for Firefox. Read
http://www.asptoday.com/Content.aspx?id=2339 and
http://slingfive.com/pages/code/browserCaps/ for more info.
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:ud*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl... re: I'd suspect the problem is with styles or properties
the designer used in a skin / theme.
Two out out three browsers rendered correctly, while a third did not.
re:All of the skin and theme work happens server side
There's some "fine-tuning" needed.
I checked the source for those tables for FF, IE and Opera and they're identical.
Maybe the issue is with Firefox not being identified correctly,
and therefore FF is not getting HTML it can understand well ?
FF *should* render standard HTML the same way IE and Opera render it.
Check out the source. I was surprised when I found them to be the identical.
Juan T. Llibre, ASP.NET MVP
ASP.NET FAQ : http://asp.net.do/faq/
ASPNETFAQ.COM : http://www.aspnetfaq.com/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español : http://asp.net.do/foros/
======================================
"Scott Allen" <sc***@nospam.odetocode.com> wrote in message
news:ui********************************@4ax.com... On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:13:22 -0400, "Juan T. Llibre"
<no***********@nowhere.com> wrote:
Maybe some fine-tuning is needed for a true "cross-browser" experience?
All of the skin and theme work happens server side (see "Under the
Hood in http://odetocode.com/Articles/423.aspx). If doubt any cross-
browser issues are due to a deficiency in the theme/skin feature. I'd
suspect the problem is with styles or properties the desginer used in
a skin / theme.
--
Scott
http://www.OdeToCode.com/blogs/scott/
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