SMC violating Microsoft Licences agreements?

[ilovemyview]

SMC (the ones on TV, you know the Happy Days guy) are promoting their
"exclusive" website marketing program that basically does not give
potential sub-wholesalers control over the web site?

Sub-wholesalers (members of SMC) do not have the option of NOT
recruiting additional SMC members (competition) by removing that option
on the expensive web sites they have to pay for?

SMC members do not have the option of removing certain items from the
inventory they are selling?

Doesn't the IRS classify that as "loss of control" and therefore all
members of SMC using websites in that manner would be classified as
"employees" since they are not true "wholesalers" in control of their
own operations?

Isn't that against the policy of Microsoft to allow companies to use
their products for illegal activities?

[Clint Hill]

With all due respect to your argument: What is the ASP.NET question?

Clint Hill
H3O Software
http://www.h3osoftware.com
il*********@yahoo.com wrote:

SMC (the ones on TV, you know the Happy Days guy) are promoting their
"exclusive" website marketing program that basically does not give
potential sub-wholesalers control over the web site?

Sub-wholesalers (members of SMC) do not have the option of NOT
recruiting additional SMC members (competition) by removing that option
on the expensive web sites they have to pay for?

SMC members do not have the option of removing certain items from the
inventory they are selling?

Doesn't the IRS classify that as "loss of control" and therefore all
members of SMC using websites in that manner would be classified as
"employees" since they are not true "wholesalers" in control of their
own operations?

Isn't that against the policy of Microsoft to allow companies to use
their products for illegal activities?

[snt]

You have posted in a group that is not related to your question.
Please post in a relevant group.

snt
http://www.flexoweb.com
http://www.onlinemall.com

[Kevin Spencer]

> My apologies for offending anyone. I thought perhaps that someone who

works for Microsoft might have an interest in someone possibly abusing
their products?
ASP.Net developers who work for Microsoft (and are about the only Microsoft
employees who hang out here) don't have any interest in "someone possibly
abusing their products." And neither do the rest of us. Why?

1. There are so many people "abusing" Microsoft products worldwide that
Microsoft has people whose only job it is to deal with it. The rest of the
company is paid to do other things, and get paid for what they do, not for
doing someone else's job.

2. The Internet is full of abuse. And there are newsgroups for people who
want to talk about it. This isn't one of them. There are also organizations
that deal with abuse, and domain personnel and mailboxes for reporting
abuse. Again, this is not germaine to this newsgroup.

3. The purpose of topic-specific newsgroups is to make it easier to find
information about the topic one is interested in. If everyone with a bee in
their bonnet about something simply posted to any newsgroup, these
newsgroups would be cluttered with all kinds of irrelevant information. Your
information is irrelevant to this newsgroup.

This is a newsgroup for programmers and developers using ASP.Net and related
Microsoft .Net technologies. It exists for the purpose of helping developers
with problems related to ASP.Net in particular. Programmers are people who
employ logic on a daily basis. Therefore, if you are a programmer, you must
be a very poor one.

--
HTH,

Kevin Spencer
Microsoft MVP
..Net Developer
Neither a follower nor a lender be.

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snt wrote:

You have posted in a group that is not related to your question.
Please post in a relevant group.

snt
http://www.flexoweb.com
http://www.onlinemall.com

My apologies for offending anyone. I thought perhaps that someone who
works for Microsoft might have an interest in someone possibly abusing
their products?

Would you want to blindly sign up for a web site that will make you
money, when in reality you could be sued later if other "members" are
actually judged to be your employees by the IRS?

Would you post in groups where you think developers frequent to get
their input? Would you keep asking questions if you think the people
involved practice denial of the issue and make jokes about it?

Would you actually think you could run a business with thousands of
products if you had to manually download one picture at a time? Would
you then think that if you pay for a "service" that allows you to sell
products online is really just a virtual mirror of your parent
"wholesaler" web site knowing full well that you are entering into an
agreement with virtually no control over the inventory, or the ability
to recruit new "members"?

Would you then ask yourself if you are really in business for yourself,
or are you an employee of another company according to IRS laws?

Would you then want to alert other software developers? Would you come
to this conclusion after the "CEO" declares that this "service" is
available only through one company? Why not let multiple companies
offer the same "service" with different options?

Is this really a "service" or a virtual employment relationship? Do
truckers ask for business plans of a company before they make a
shipment?

Would you come to this conclusion because in order to appear to run
your own business with SMC as the supplier, your customers think these
are your products, your policies, when they are not?

Would you come to these conclusions because the only way to sell
products is online according to your business strategy? So should
clients of Microsoft Products and developers encourage the proper use
of their products?

Do you think if you make people aware of your concerns, it is more
trouble to fix the problem or is it easier to deny it?

What groups would you post to?

Would you make a complaint to the Federal Trade Commission?

Would you contact the IRS?

Would you bring this up for discussion in your college class?