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Is it possiable

I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET or any
other tools. .. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework installed with
these resources can write a sample aspx page and run it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create a
project. . . with only framework
Nov 19 '05 #1
9 1216
You can develop even with Notepad if you want to, and compile
assemblies from the command-line, but why make programming
more difficult for yourself ?

The programming ease which IDEs offer save you much time,
by enabling you to insert complicated built-in controls easily.

If you don't have the money to purchase Visual Studio 2003,
to program against ASP.NET 1.1, you can use the free Web Matrix :

http://asp.net/webmatrix/

You can still compile your assemblies from the command-line,
but you can insert all the built-in ASP.NET objects via drag-and-drop.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Raghuram" <rv******@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eT**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET or any other tools.
.. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework installed with these resources can write a
sample aspx page and run it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create a project. . .
with only framework

Nov 19 '05 #2
Sure, you can just use notepad to write all your code. It's typically
easier if you don't use the codebehind model, 'cuz then you don't need to
precompile and can simply deploy your aspx files. If you want to use
codebehind and other class files, check out
http://www.asp101.com/articles/john/...vs/default.asp which tells
you how to use the command line compiler to do just that.

If the problem with VS.Net is the price, check out ASP.Net WebMatrix which
is free: http://www.asp.net/webmatrix/default...dex=4&tabId=46

Karl
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)
"Raghuram" <rv******@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eT**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET or
any other tools. .. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework installed
with these resources can write a sample aspx page and run it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create a
project. . . with only framework

Nov 19 '05 #3
man...beat me by 1 minute...

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to
come!)
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
You can develop even with Notepad if you want to, and compile
assemblies from the command-line, but why make programming
more difficult for yourself ?

The programming ease which IDEs offer save you much time,
by enabling you to insert complicated built-in controls easily.

If you don't have the money to purchase Visual Studio 2003,
to program against ASP.NET 1.1, you can use the free Web Matrix :

http://asp.net/webmatrix/

You can still compile your assemblies from the command-line,
but you can insert all the built-in ASP.NET objects via drag-and-drop.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Raghuram" <rv******@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eT**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET or
any other tools. .. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework installed
with these resources can write a sample aspx page and run it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create a
project. . . with only framework


Nov 19 '05 #4
Hi Raghuram,

The new compilation model in version 2 of asp.net lets you work like in the
good old asp days.
Just modify the aspx file or the code behind file and aks for the page in
the browser.
The compilation will happen in the background.

The new special directory App_Code is also very usefull in your case. Just
drop class files here that you want to use in every web page.
Again, the engine will compile them for you.

If you use version 1.1 than it you have to do the compilations all by yourself.

My advice is switch to version 2.0, it will save you lots of time.

And why not try the free (for now final price will be hobbyish) Visual Web
Developer express. It realy rules.
Cheers,
Tom Pester
I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET
or any other tools. .. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework
installed with these resources can write a sample aspx page and run
it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create
a project. . . with only framework

Nov 19 '05 #5
heh, heh...

It's the fast and early bird that gets the worm... ;-)

What's really important is that, working independently of each other,
we came up with the *same* recommendations.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Karl Seguin" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> wrote in message
news:OL**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
man...beat me by 1 minute...

Karl

--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/ - New and Improved (yes, the popup is annoying)
http://www.openmymind.net/faq.aspx - unofficial newsgroup FAQ (more to come!)
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
You can develop even with Notepad if you want to, and compile
assemblies from the command-line, but why make programming
more difficult for yourself ?

The programming ease which IDEs offer save you much time,
by enabling you to insert complicated built-in controls easily.

If you don't have the money to purchase Visual Studio 2003,
to program against ASP.NET 1.1, you can use the free Web Matrix :

http://asp.net/webmatrix/

You can still compile your assemblies from the command-line,
but you can insert all the built-in ASP.NET objects via drag-and-drop.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Raghuram" <rv******@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eT**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET or any other
tools. .. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework installed with these resources can
write a sample aspx page and run it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create a project. . .
with only framework



Nov 19 '05 #6
re:
(for now final price will be hobbyish)
I keep hearing US$49 for all the Express SKUs,
including VWD, VB.Net Express, C# Express, VJ# Express.

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/express/faq/default.aspx

"Are the Express Edition products free?
Our plan is to offer the Express products for $49 per product when they are released."

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"tom pester" <To********************@pandora.be> wrote in message
news:a1***************************@news.microsoft. com... Hi Raghuram,

The new compilation model in version 2 of asp.net lets you work like in the good old asp
days.
Just modify the aspx file or the code behind file and aks for the page in the browser.
The compilation will happen in the background.

The new special directory App_Code is also very usefull in your case. Just drop class
files here that you want to use in every web page.
Again, the engine will compile them for you.

If you use version 1.1 than it you have to do the compilations all by yourself.

My advice is switch to version 2.0, it will save you lots of time.

And why not try the free (for now final price will be hobbyish) Visual Web Developer
express. It realy rules.
Cheers,
Tom Pester
I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET
or any other tools. .. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework
installed with these resources can write a sample aspx page and run
it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create
a project. . . with only framework


Nov 19 '05 #7
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
What's really important is that, working independently of each other,
we came up with the *same* recommendations.


And what were the odds of that...?!!!

Just kidding, guys... ;-)
Nov 19 '05 #8
Hi, this is not the matter of Money or any, i just want to know the
concepts. . .
i know its very very easy to create a project and complete the project but
one thing i want to create a web project with out the tool and create it
with the NOTEPAD

"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
You can develop even with Notepad if you want to, and compile
assemblies from the command-line, but why make programming
more difficult for yourself ?

The programming ease which IDEs offer save you much time,
by enabling you to insert complicated built-in controls easily.

If you don't have the money to purchase Visual Studio 2003,
to program against ASP.NET 1.1, you can use the free Web Matrix :

http://asp.net/webmatrix/

You can still compile your assemblies from the command-line,
but you can insert all the built-in ASP.NET objects via drag-and-drop.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Raghuram" <rv******@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eT**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET or
any other tools. .. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework installed
with these resources can write a sample aspx page and run it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create a
project. . . with only framework


Nov 19 '05 #9

You want to create a web project, or web pages and assemblies ?

If it's a web project that you want to create, like the
web projects which VS.NET uses, I don't think it's possible.

If you want to create web pages and source code which you
can compile to assemblies which you can call from your web pages,
then, yes, it's a pretty much straightforward thing to do.

vbc /t:library /out:..\bin\your.dll yourVBsource.vb /r:system.dll /r:system.data.dll

will compile yourVBsource.vb to your.dll, which the batch file places in the
/bin directory, and from where you can call its classes, methods and properties
in your ASPX files with a statement like :

<%@ Import Namespace="YourNameSpace" %>

Now, you can call your classes, functions and properties in the ASPX file.

See tutorial articles on assemblies and command-line compilation at :
http://authors.aspalliance.com/hrmal.../20020401.aspx
http://authors.aspalliance.com/hrmal.../20020201.aspx
http://authors.aspalliance.com/hrmal.../20020301.aspx
http://authors.aspalliance.com/hrmal.../20020501.aspx (includes
source )
http://authors.aspalliance.com/hrmal.../20021101.aspx

Optional : install assemblies to GAC
http://authors.aspalliance.com/hrmal.../20030101.aspx

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Raghuram" <rv******@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:ep**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Hi, this is not the matter of Money or any, i just want to know the concepts. . .
i know its very very easy to create a project and complete the project but one thing i
want to create a web project with out the tool and create it with the NOTEPAD

"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
You can develop even with Notepad if you want to, and compile
assemblies from the command-line, but why make programming
more difficult for yourself ?

The programming ease which IDEs offer save you much time,
by enabling you to insert complicated built-in controls easily.

If you don't have the money to purchase Visual Studio 2003,
to program against ASP.NET 1.1, you can use the free Web Matrix :

http://asp.net/webmatrix/

You can still compile your assemblies from the command-line,
but you can insert all the built-in ASP.NET objects via drag-and-drop.

Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP
http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================

"Raghuram" <rv******@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:eT**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I dont have any application development tool like Visual Studios .NET or any other
tools. .. i have only IIS Server and 1.1 framework installed with these resources can
write a sample aspx page and run it. . .

Is it Possiable ??????

If yes what are the other tools required ????

if No, why is it not possiable to do that ????

Basic idea behind is that without the Tools (VS IDE) i want to create a project. . .
with only framework



Nov 19 '05 #10

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