Say I develop an application that has an SQL Server 2000 back end with
ASP.NET front end. All the business logic is in the aspx pages. I want to
sell this as a package that some one can install on their server or even
desktop (replace SQL Server with MSDE). I don't want people reverse
engineering the logic inside of the aspx pages. Is there a way to prevent
this?
Also, I could probably put most all of the logic inside of a VB.NET EXE.
There would still need to be some logic in the aspx pages so I can't
completely get away from it. Any suggestions on a good method for this?
Thanks,
Brett 21 3489
How about putting the business logic in the compiled code behind ? Or better
in a library called by code behind or aspx ?
then you can use one of several JIT obfuscator to make reverse engeneering
harder.
The whole point of aspx is that it is compiled "at first call".
"Brett" <no@spam.com> a écrit dans le message de news: eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Say I develop an application that has an SQL Server 2000 back end with ASP.NET front end. All the business logic is in the aspx pages. I want to sell this as a package that some one can install on their server or even desktop (replace SQL Server with MSDE). I don't want people reverse engineering the logic inside of the aspx pages. Is there a way to prevent this?
Also, I could probably put most all of the logic inside of a VB.NET EXE. There would still need to be some logic in the aspx pages so I can't completely get away from it. Any suggestions on a good method for this?
Thanks, Brett
Hi Brett,
If the logic is in the codebehind, you can obfuscate it with a tool like
this: http://www.aspose.com/Products/Aspos.../Overview.html
I'm not aware of a tool that does the same for logic that is in .aspx files.
Of course if you can wait until the .NET 2.0 beta....
Ken
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Say I develop an application that has an SQL Server 2000 back end with ASP.NET front end. All the business logic is in the aspx pages. I want to sell this as a package that some one can install on their server or even desktop (replace SQL Server with MSDE). I don't want people reverse engineering the logic inside of the aspx pages. Is there a way to prevent this?
Also, I could probably put most all of the logic inside of a VB.NET EXE. There would still need to be some logic in the aspx pages so I can't completely get away from it. Any suggestions on a good method for this?
Thanks, Brett
I'm new to ASP.NET. What are the file extensions that the compiled code
behind is stored in? Are you referring to ASP.NET or VB.NET code when you
say compiled?
When you say library, are you referring to say a VB.NET DLL that the aspx
pages create an object for?
Can you elaborate on this a little more: "then you can use one of several
JIT obfuscator to make reverse engeneering harder." Would this have any
performance hit?
Thanks,
Brett
"Michel de Becdelièvre" <m_*****@msn.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... How about putting the business logic in the compiled code behind ? Or better in a library called by code behind or aspx ?
then you can use one of several JIT obfuscator to make reverse engeneering harder.
The whole point of aspx is that it is compiled "at first call".
"Brett" <no@spam.com> a écrit dans le message de news: eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Say I develop an application that has an SQL Server 2000 back end with ASP.NET front end. All the business logic is in the aspx pages. I want to sell this as a package that some one can install on their server or even desktop (replace SQL Server with MSDE). I don't want people reverse engineering the logic inside of the aspx pages. Is there a way to prevent this?
Also, I could probably put most all of the logic inside of a VB.NET EXE. There would still need to be some logic in the aspx pages so I can't completely get away from it. Any suggestions on a good method for this?
Thanks, Brett
Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program?
What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released?
It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since the first
version will probably be a little rough around the edges.
Brett
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... Hi Brett,
If the logic is in the codebehind, you can obfuscate it with a tool like this:
http://www.aspose.com/Products/Aspos.../Overview.html
I'm not aware of a tool that does the same for logic that is in .aspx files. Of course if you can wait until the .NET 2.0 beta....
Ken
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Say I develop an application that has an SQL Server 2000 back end with ASP.NET front end. All the business logic is in the aspx pages. I want to sell this as a package that some one can install on their server or even desktop (replace SQL Server with MSDE). I don't want people reverse engineering the logic inside of the aspx pages. Is there a way to prevent this?
Also, I could probably put most all of the logic inside of a VB.NET EXE. There would still need to be some logic in the aspx pages so I can't completely get away from it. Any suggestions on a good method for this?
Thanks, Brett
I see what the obfuscators do now: http://www.devdirect.com/ALL/OBFUSCA...PCAT_2014.aspx. Do you have a
preference for one? Possibly free?
Thanks,
Brett
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... I'm new to ASP.NET. What are the file extensions that the compiled code behind is stored in? Are you referring to ASP.NET or VB.NET code when you say compiled?
When you say library, are you referring to say a VB.NET DLL that the aspx pages create an object for?
Can you elaborate on this a little more: "then you can use one of several JIT obfuscator to make reverse engeneering harder." Would this have any performance hit?
Thanks, Brett
"Michel de Becdelièvre" <m_*****@msn.com> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... How about putting the business logic in the compiled code behind ? Or better in a library called by code behind or aspx ?
then you can use one of several JIT obfuscator to make reverse engeneering harder.
The whole point of aspx is that it is compiled "at first call".
"Brett" <no@spam.com> a écrit dans le message de news: eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Say I develop an application that has an SQL Server 2000 back end with ASP.NET front end. All the business logic is in the aspx pages. I want to sell this as a package that some one can install on their server or even desktop (replace SQL Server with MSDE). I don't want people reverse engineering the logic inside of the aspx pages. Is there a way to prevent this?
Also, I could probably put most all of the logic inside of a VB.NET EXE. There would still need to be some logic in the aspx pages so I can't completely get away from it. Any suggestions on a good method for this?
Thanks, Brett
Hi Brett,
Check the details here on compilation in ASP.NET 2.0: http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/wh...ternals_topic3
As for the release, my guess is late fall for the final release. I'm
guessing September 25th for the beta 2 which should include a "Go Live"
option.
Ken
Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program?
What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released?
It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since the first version will probably be a little rough around the edges.
re: I'm guessing September 25th for the beta 2
That seems rather far away...
Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Hi Brett,
Check the details here on compilation in ASP.NET 2.0:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/wh...ternals_topic3
As for the release, my guess is late fall for the final release. I'm guessing September 25th for the beta 2 which should include a "Go Live" option.
Ken Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program?
What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released?
It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since the first version will probably be a little rough around the edges.
Oops. I meant April 25th. <grin>
"Juan T. Llibre" <no***********@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:uz**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... re:I'm guessing September 25th for the beta 2
That seems rather far away...
Oops. I mean to guess April 25th for beta 2. My guess for the final release
is late fall.
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program?
What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released?
In ASP.NET 2.0 you'll be able to compile your ASPX files directly into the
DLL, so that should solve your problem.
It's rumored beta 2 will will be out later this month.
--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP http://SteveOrr.net
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Say I develop an application that has an SQL Server 2000 back end with ASP.NET front end. All the business logic is in the aspx pages. I want to sell this as a package that some one can install on their server or even desktop (replace SQL Server with MSDE). I don't want people reverse engineering the logic inside of the aspx pages. Is there a way to prevent this?
Also, I could probably put most all of the logic inside of a VB.NET EXE. There would still need to be some logic in the aspx pages so I can't completely get away from it. Any suggestions on a good method for this?
Thanks, Brett
Will it be worth it to upgrade to 2.0 beta? I think it is risky but there
isn't any other way to compile the aspx files into DLLs.
Will I need to change any code to work with 2.0 beta?
thanks,
Brett
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Hi Brett,
Check the details here on compilation in ASP.NET 2.0:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/wh...ternals_topic3
As for the release, my guess is late fall for the final release. I'm guessing September 25th for the beta 2 which should include a "Go Live" option.
Ken Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program?
What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released?
It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since the first version will probably be a little rough around the edges.
The code should work with the 2.0 beta given that backwards compatibility
was a priority.
The problem is that you'll need to have the beta on the server and then
upgrade/rebuild for the release. I'd wait a few more days to check on the
stability of the 2.0 beta.
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:eM**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Will it be worth it to upgrade to 2.0 beta? I think it is risky but there isn't any other way to compile the aspx files into DLLs.
Will I need to change any code to work with 2.0 beta?
thanks, Brett "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Hi Brett,
Check the details here on compilation in ASP.NET 2.0:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/wh...ternals_topic3
As for the release, my guess is late fall for the final release. I'm guessing September 25th for the beta 2 which should include a "Go Live" option.
Ken Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program?
What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released?
It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since the first version will probably be a little rough around the edges.
Will people running my ASP.NET app also need 2.0? That will be an issue as
most will want to stay with a more stable 1.1.
Brett
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... The code should work with the 2.0 beta given that backwards compatibility was a priority.
The problem is that you'll need to have the beta on the server and then upgrade/rebuild for the release. I'd wait a few more days to check on the stability of the 2.0 beta.
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:eM**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Will it be worth it to upgrade to 2.0 beta? I think it is risky but there isn't any other way to compile the aspx files into DLLs.
Will I need to change any code to work with 2.0 beta?
thanks, Brett "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Hi Brett,
Check the details here on compilation in ASP.NET 2.0:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/wh...ternals_topic3
As for the release, my guess is late fall for the final release. I'm guessing September 25th for the beta 2 which should include a "Go Live" option.
Ken Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program?
What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released?
It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since the first version will probably be a little rough around the edges.
No. They'll only need a browser.
( If you're talking about web applications... )
For Windows apps, they'd need the 2.0 framework, too.
Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:uO**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Will people running my ASP.NET app also need 2.0? That will be an issue as most will want to stay with a more stable 1.1.
Brett
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... The code should work with the 2.0 beta given that backwards compatibility was a priority.
The problem is that you'll need to have the beta on the server and then upgrade/rebuild for the release. I'd wait a few more days to check on the stability of the 2.0 beta.
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:eM**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Will it be worth it to upgrade to 2.0 beta? I think it is risky but there isn't any other way to compile the aspx files into DLLs.
Will I need to change any code to work with 2.0 beta?
thanks, Brett "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Hi Brett,
Check the details here on compilation in ASP.NET 2.0:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/wh...ternals_topic3
As for the release, my guess is late fall for the final release. I'm guessing September 25th for the beta 2 which should include a "Go Live" option.
Ken Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program? > > What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released? > > It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since the > first version will probably be a little rough around the edges. >
I'm referring to some one installing the ASP.NET app on their Win Server.
If I developed it in 2.0, seems as though they would need 2.0 to run it
correct?
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:uO**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Will people running my ASP.NET app also need 2.0? That will be an issue as most will want to stay with a more stable 1.1.
Brett
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... The code should work with the 2.0 beta given that backwards compatibility was a priority.
The problem is that you'll need to have the beta on the server and then upgrade/rebuild for the release. I'd wait a few more days to check on the stability of the 2.0 beta.
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:eM**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Will it be worth it to upgrade to 2.0 beta? I think it is risky but there isn't any other way to compile the aspx files into DLLs.
Will I need to change any code to work with 2.0 beta?
thanks, Brett "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Hi Brett,
Check the details here on compilation in ASP.NET 2.0:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/wh...ternals_topic3
As for the release, my guess is late fall for the final release. I'm guessing September 25th for the beta 2 which should include a "Go Live" option.
Ken Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET]
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program? > > What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be released? > > It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since the > first version will probably be a little rough around the edges. >
In that case, yes, they'll need to have the 2.0 Framework installed.
Juan T. Llibre
ASP.NET MVP http://asp.net.do/foros/
Foros de ASP.NET en Español
Ven, y hablemos de ASP.NET...
======================
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:Ob**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... I'm referring to some one installing the ASP.NET app on their Win Server. If I developed it in 2.0, seems as though they would need 2.0 to run it correct?
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:uO**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Will people running my ASP.NET app also need 2.0? That will be an issue as most will want to stay with a more stable 1.1.
Brett
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... The code should work with the 2.0 beta given that backwards compatibility was a priority.
The problem is that you'll need to have the beta on the server and then upgrade/rebuild for the release. I'd wait a few more days to check on the stability of the 2.0 beta.
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:eM**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Will it be worth it to upgrade to 2.0 beta? I think it is risky but there isn't any other way to compile the aspx files into DLLs.
Will I need to change any code to work with 2.0 beta?
thanks, Brett "Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > Hi Brett, > > Check the details here on compilation in ASP.NET 2.0: > > http://msdn.microsoft.com/asp.net/wh...ternals_topic3 > > As for the release, my guess is late fall for the final release. I'm > guessing September 25th for the beta 2 which should include a "Go > Live" option. > > Ken > Microsoft MVP [ASP.NET] > > "Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message > news:uv**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... >> Thanks. That's pretty neat. Have you used that program? >> >> What will .NET 2.0 offer in this way? Also, when will it be >> released? >> >> It will probably be a while until I will upgrade to .NET 2.0 since >> the first version will probably be a little rough around the edges. >> >
The Web server will need to run the same build of 2.0 that you compiled
with. That's where things get messy since it will be a beta and some people
shy away from installing betas.
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
news:uO**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Will people running my ASP.NET app also need 2.0? That will be an issue as most will want to stay with a more stable 1.1.
Where exactly is the download link for the program below?
"Ken Cox [Microsoft MVP]" <BA************@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
news:%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... Hi Brett,
If the logic is in the codebehind, you can obfuscate it with a tool like this:
http://www.aspose.com/Products/Aspos.../Overview.html
I'm not aware of a tool that does the same for logic that is in .aspx files. Of course if you can wait until the .NET 2.0 beta....
Ken
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:eA*************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... Say I develop an application that has an SQL Server 2000 back end with ASP.NET front end. All the business logic is in the aspx pages. I want to sell this as a package that some one can install on their server or even desktop (replace SQL Server with MSDE). I don't want people reverse engineering the logic inside of the aspx pages. Is there a way to prevent this?
Also, I could probably put most all of the logic inside of a VB.NET EXE. There would still need to be some logic in the aspx pages so I can't completely get away from it. Any suggestions on a good method for this?
Thanks, Brett
Never used one so far. So I have no opinion.
"Brett" <no@spam.com> a écrit dans le message de news:
%2***************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... I see what the obfuscators do now: http://www.devdirect.com/ALL/OBFUSCA...PCAT_2014.aspx. Do you have a preference for one? Possibly free?
Thanks, Brett
"Brett" <no@spam.com> wrote in message news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... I'm new to ASP.NET. What are the file extensions that the compiled code behind is stored in? Are you referring to ASP.NET or VB.NET code when you say compiled?
When you say library, are you referring to say a VB.NET DLL that the aspx pages create an object for?
Can you elaborate on this a little more: "then you can use one of several JIT obfuscator to make reverse engeneering harder." Would this have any performance hit?
Thanks, Brett
Hey! The product seems to have disappeared from their line-up!
Send them an email to see if it is still available?
"Brett" <no@spam.net> wrote in message
news:u8**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Where exactly is the download link for the program below?
Hey! The product seems to have disappeared from their line-up!
Send them an email to see if it is still available?
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