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Crystal Reports Cascading parameters don't get preserved between postbacks

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LP
I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters feature works it
asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It prompts for params
again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a viewer, but it
still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's the solution?
Please help.

Thank you
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You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to the Session()
collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to explicity cast
it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny things if you
don't save them between page refreshes.

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters feature works it asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It prompts for params again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a viewer, but it
still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's the solution?
Please help.

Thank you

Nov 19 '05 #2

P: n/a
LP
Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting viewers
ReportSource to a report file directly:

crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & reportName)

What should I do in this case?

Thanks
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to the Session() collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to explicity cast it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny things if you don't save them between page refreshes.

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters feature works

it
asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It prompts for

params
again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a viewer, but it still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's the solution? Please help.

Thank you


Nov 19 '05 #3

P: n/a
LP
Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for me even without
saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another problem with
exporting. I have another button that export report to excel and sends a
file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work. I tried
saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and retrieving, but
nothing works.
I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when you get
them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But their API and
object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with what one would
expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good documentation on
their APIs.
"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting viewers
ReportSource to a report file directly:

crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & reportName)

What should I do in this case?

Thanks
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to the

Session()
collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to explicity

cast
it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny things if

you
don't save them between page refreshes.

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters feature
works
it
asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It prompts for

params
again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a viewer, but

it still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's the solution? Please help.

Thank you



Nov 19 '05 #4

P: n/a
I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book, "Crystal
Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET object model
and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it only touches
on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that or not).
I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming because RAS
is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that won't be till
after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.

Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make is that they
mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. They set some
properties using one object and set other properties using the other object
model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get dropped. You
can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use the
ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that and
post the results here.

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for me even without saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another problem with
exporting. I have another button that export report to excel and sends a
file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work. I tried
saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and retrieving, but
nothing works.
I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when you get them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But their API and object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with what one would expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good documentation on their APIs.
"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting viewers
ReportSource to a report file directly:

crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & reportName)

What should I do in this case?

Thanks
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to the

Session()
collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to explicity

cast
it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny things if
you
don't save them between page refreshes.

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters feature works it
> asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It prompts
for params
> again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a viewer,

but it
> still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's the

solution?
> Please help.
>
> Thank you
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #5

P: n/a
LP
>The best practice is to use the
ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that and post the results here.
ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also have a
button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to a client
through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one parameterized report.
Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I tried my
different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc. but nothing
seems to work.
I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup window
with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could find
workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom export button. My
biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet important
things take so much time effort to do that it becomes questionanle if it's
all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like opening a
popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file can't be
"save as"

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book, "Crystal
Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET object model
and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it only touches on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that or not).
I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming because RAS
is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that won't be till after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.

Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make is that they
mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. They set some
properties using one object and set other properties using the other object model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get dropped. You can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use the
ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that and post the results here.

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for me even without
saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another problem with
exporting. I have another button that export report to excel and sends a
file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work. I tried
saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and retrieving, but
nothing works.
I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when you

get
them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But their API

and
object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with what one

would
expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good documentation

on
their APIs.
"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting viewers
ReportSource to a report file directly:

crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & reportName)

What should I do in this case?

Thanks
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to the
Session()
> collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to explicity cast
> it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny
things if you
> don't save them between page refreshes.
>
> HTH,
>
> Brian Bischof
> www.CrystalReportsBook.com
>
>
>
> "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters feature

works
> it
> > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It prompts for > params
> > again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a viewer, but it
> > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's the
solution?
> > Please help.
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #6

P: n/a
Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of not saving to
disk and see if I can get you an answer.

Brian
"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
The best practice is to use the
ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that and
post the results here.


ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also have a
button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to a client
through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one parameterized report.
Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I tried my
different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc. but

nothing seems to work.
I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup window with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could find
workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom export button. My biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet important
things take so much time effort to do that it becomes questionanle if it's
all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like opening a popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file can't be
"save as"

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book, "Crystal
Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET object model and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it only

touches
on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that or not). I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming because RAS is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that won't be

till
after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.

Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make is that they mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. They set some properties using one object and set other properties using the other

object
model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get dropped.

You
can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use the
ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that

and
post the results here.

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for me even

without
saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another problem with exporting. I have another button that export report to excel and sends a file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work. I tried saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and retrieving, but
nothing works.
I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when you
get
them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But their
API and
object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with what one

would
expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good
documentation on
their APIs.
"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting viewers
> ReportSource to a report file directly:
>
> crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & reportName)
>
> What should I do in this case?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to the
> Session()
> > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to

explicity > cast
> > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny

things
if
> you
> > don't save them between page refreshes.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Brian Bischof
> > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters feature works
> > it
> > > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It

prompts for
> > params
> > > again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a
viewer, but
> it
> > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's the
> solution?
> > > Please help.
> > >
> > > Thank you
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #7

P: n/a
Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last week said
that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it always
spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new window it
won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result of not being
able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.

First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open dialog box,
then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom of the dialog
box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with this or not. I
played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no effect. I did find
out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet preferences.
After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I looked in
preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus, the PDF
option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not CR XI.
Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types in my
brower and you should be able to get them too.

Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is happening
with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if this is a
browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS file to the
browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer to this
one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first issue and get the
Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of not saving to disk and see if I can get you an answer.

Brian
"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
The best practice is to use the
ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that
and
post the results here.
ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also have a
button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to a client
through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one parameterized report.
Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I tried my
different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc. but

nothing
seems to work.
I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup

window
with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could find
workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom export button. My
biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet important
things take so much time effort to do that it becomes questionanle if
it's all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like opening a
popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file can't
be "save as"

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book, "Crystal Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET object model and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it only

touches
on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that or not). I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming because RAS is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that won't be

till
after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.

Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make is that they mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. They set some properties using one object and set other properties using the other

object
model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get
dropped. You
can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use
the ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that and
post the results here.

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for me even
without
> saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another problem

with > exporting. I have another button that export report to excel and
sends a > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work. I tried > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and retrieving,
but > nothing works.
> I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when
you get
> them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But their API and
> object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with what one would
> expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good documentation on
> their APIs.
>
>
> "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting viewers
> > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> >
> > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & reportName)
> >
> > What should I do in this case?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to the
> > Session()
> > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to

explicity
> > cast
> > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny

things
if
> > you
> > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Brian Bischof
> > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters feature > works
> > > it
> > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It prompts for
> > > params
> > > > again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a viewer, but
> > it
> > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's

the > > solution?
> > > > Please help.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #8

P: n/a
LP
Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup window and
loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way to save
it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And, yes, you are
right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" icon. But I
think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also looked in
browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not find
anything.
But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you suggesting. I think
this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that there's a
header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can specify
ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename=" tag where
you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save or open that
file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP header
tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of
intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had any time
to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a demo app.
Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right track.

Thank you again for your input.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last week said that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it always
spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new window it
won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result of not being
able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.

First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open dialog box,
then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom of the dialog box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with this or not. I
played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no effect. I did find out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet preferences. After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I looked in
preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus, the PDF
option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not CR XI.
Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types in my
brower and you should be able to get them too.

Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is happening with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if this is a
browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS file to the browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer to this
one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first issue and get the Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of not saving

to
disk and see if I can get you an answer.

Brian
"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>The best practice is to use the
> ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that and
> post the results here.

ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also have a button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to a client through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one parameterized report. Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I tried my
different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc. but

nothing
seems to work.
I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup

window
with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could find
workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom export button.
My
biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet important things take so much time effort to do that it becomes questionanle if it's all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like opening
a
popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file can't

be "save as"

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book,

"Crystal
> Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET object

model
> and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it only
touches
> on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that or

not).
> I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming because RAS
> is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that won't
be till
> after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
>
> Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make is that
they
> mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. They
set some
> properties using one object and set other properties using the other
object
> model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get dropped. You
> can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use the > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try that and
> post the results here.
>
> Brian Bischof
> www.CrystalReportsBook.com
>
>
>
> "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for me
even > without
> > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another problem

with
> > exporting. I have another button that export report to excel and

sends
a
> > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work. I

tried
> > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and retrieving,

but > > nothing works.
> > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when you
> get
> > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But
their
API
> and
> > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with what

one > would
> > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good

documentation
> on
> > their APIs.
> >
> >
> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting
viewers > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > >
> > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & reportName)
> > >
> > > What should I do in this case?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to

the
> > > Session()
> > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to
explicity
> > > cast
> > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny
things
> if
> > > you
> > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters

feature
> > works
> > > > it
> > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It

prompts
> for
> > > > params
> > > > > again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a

viewer,
> but
> > > it
> > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's

the > > > solution?
> > > > > Please help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>




Nov 19 '05 #9

P: n/a
Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do get it?
It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and I think
this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the toolbar not
having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not knowledgeable about
HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can control this. I
will have to research that tomorrow.

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup window and
loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way to save it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And, yes, you are right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" icon. But I
think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also looked in
browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not find
anything.
But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you suggesting. I think this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that there's a
header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can specify
ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename=" tag where
you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save or open that file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP header
tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of
intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had any time
to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a demo app.
Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right track.

Thank you again for your input.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last week said
that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it always
spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new window it
won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result of not being able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.

First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open dialog box, then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom of the

dialog
box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with this or not. I played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no effect. I did

find
out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet

preferences.
After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I looked in
preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus, the PDF option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not CR XI. Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types in my
brower and you should be able to get them too.

Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is

happening
with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if this is a
browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS file to

the
browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer to this one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first issue and get

the
Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of not saving
to
disk and see if I can get you an answer.

Brian
"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >The best practice is to use the
> > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try

that
> and
> > post the results here.
>
> ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also
have a > button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to a client > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one parameterized report.
> Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I tried my
> different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc. but
nothing
> seems to work.
> I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup
window
> with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could find
> workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom export

button.
My
> biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet important > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes questionanle
if it's
> all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like

opening
a
> popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file
can't be
> "save as"
>
>
>
> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book,
"Crystal
> > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET
object model
> > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it only > touches
> > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that or not).
> > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming

because RAS
> > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that won't be
> till
> > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> >
> > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make is that they
> > mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. They set some
> > properties using one object and set other properties using the
other > object
> > model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get

dropped.
> You
> > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use the
> > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try

that
> and
> > post the results here.
> >
> > Brian Bischof
> > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for me even > > without
> > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another
problem with
> > > exporting. I have another button that export report to excel and

sends
a
> > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work. I tried
> > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and retrieving, but
> > > nothing works.
> > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when you
> > get
> > > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But their API
> > and
> > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with
what one
> > would
> > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good
documentation
> > on
> > > their APIs.
> > >
> > >
> > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting viewers > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > >
> > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" &
reportName) > > > >
> > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in

message > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the report object to the

> > > > Session()
> > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure to
> explicity
> > > > cast
> > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of
funny > things
> > if
> > > > you
> > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH,
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters
feature
> > > works
> > > > > it
> > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It
prompts
> > for
> > > > > params
> > > > > > again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a
viewer,
> > but
> > > > it
> > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem.

What's the
> > > > solution?
> > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #10

P: n/a
LP
> Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do get
it?

I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window with
Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and
certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way to
provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside a popup, I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do get it? It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and I think
this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the toolbar not
having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not knowledgeable about HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can control this. I will have to research that tomorrow.

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup window and
loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way to save
it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And, yes, you

are
right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" icon. But I think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also looked in browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not find anything.
But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you suggesting. I

think
this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that there's a
header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can specify
ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename=" tag where you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save or open

that
file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP header
tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of
intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had any time to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a demo app. Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right track.

Thank you again for your input.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last week
said
that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it
always spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new window

it won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result of not being able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.

First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open dialog box, then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom of the

dialog
box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with this or not. I
played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no effect. I did find
out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet

preferences.
After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I looked in
preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus, the PDF option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not CR XI. Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types in
my brower and you should be able to get them too.

Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is

happening
with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if this is a browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS file to the
browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer to this one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first issue and
get the
Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of not saving to
> disk and see if I can get you an answer.
>
> Brian
>
>
> "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > >The best practice is to use the
> > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices).
Try that
> > and
> > > post the results here.
> >
> > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also

have
a
> > button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to a

client
> > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one parameterized
report.
> > Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I tried my > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc. but > nothing
> > seems to work.
> > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup > window
> > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could find > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom export
button.
> My
> > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet

important
> > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes questionanle

if it's
> > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like
opening
> a
> > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file can't be
> > "save as"
> >
> >
> >
> > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book,
> "Crystal
> > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET object > model
> > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it only > > touches
> > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that or > not).
> > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming

because
> RAS
> > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that won't
be
> > till
> > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> > >
> > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make is

that
> they
> > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. They set
> some
> > > properties using one object and set other properties using the

other > > object
> > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get
dropped.
> > You
> > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use the
> > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices).
Try that
> > and
> > > post the results here.
> > >
> > > Brian Bischof
> > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for me

even
> > > without
> > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another

problem > with
> > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to excel and sends
> a
> > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work. I
> tried
> > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and retrieving, but
> > > > nothing works.
> > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when
> you
> > > get
> > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But

their
> API
> > > and
> > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with what one
> > > would
> > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good
> documentation
> > > on
> > > > their APIs.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting

viewers
> > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > > >
> > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & reportName) > > > > >
> > > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in

message
> > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the report
object to the
>
> > > > > Session()
> > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure
to > > explicity
> > > > > cast
> > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of

funny > > things
> > > if
> > > > > you
> > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters > feature
> > > > works
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It > prompts
> > > for
> > > > > > params
> > > > > > > again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in a > viewer,
> > > but
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem. What's the
> > > > > solution?
> > > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #11

P: n/a
Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c I was able to
toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog box
opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
prompted with this box again or just open the file directly. Thus, this is a
browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer I was able
to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a browser window
using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how to turn
this on or off.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do get it?

I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window with
Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and
certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way to
provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside a popup, I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do get

it?
It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and I think
this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the toolbar not having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not knowledgeable

about
HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can control this. I
will have to research that tomorrow.

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup window
and loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way to

save
it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And, yes, you are
right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" icon.
But I think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also looked in browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not find anything.
But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you suggesting. I think
this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that there's a
header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can specify
ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename=" tag where you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save or
open
that
file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP
header tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of
intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had any

time to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a demo app. Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right track.

Thank you again for your input.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last week said
> that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it always > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new window it
> won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result of not

being
> able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.
>
> First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open dialog

box,
> then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom of the
dialog
> box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with this or not.
I
> played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no effect. I
did find
> out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet
preferences.
> After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I looked in > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus, the PDF
> option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not
CR XI.
> Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types
in my > brower and you should be able to get them too.
>
> Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is
happening
> with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if this
is
a > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS file to the
> browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer
to this
> one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first issue and get the
> Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.
>
> HTH,
>
> Brian Bischof
> www.CrystalReportsBook.com
>
>
>
> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of not saving
> to
> > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > >The best practice is to use the
> > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try > that
> > > and
> > > > post the results here.
> > >
> > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also

have
a
> > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to
a client
> > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one parameterized > report.
> > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I tried

my > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc. but > > nothing
> > > seems to work.
> > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup > > window
> > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could find > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom export > button.
> > My
> > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet
important
> > > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes questionanle if
> it's
> > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre
like > opening
> > a
> > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file

can't
> be
> > > "save as"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book, > > "Crystal
> > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET

object
> > model
> > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it
only
> > > touches
> > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using
that or
> > not).
> > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming
because
> > RAS
> > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that

won't
be
> > > till
> > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> > > >
> > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make
is that
> > they
> > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object model.

They set
> > some
> > > > properties using one object and set other properties using the

other
> > > object
> > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get
> dropped.
> > > You
> > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use
> the
> > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try > that
> > > and
> > > > post the results here.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for
me even
> > > > without
> > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another

problem
> > with
> > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to excel

and > sends
> > a
> > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work.
I
> > tried
> > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and

retrieving,
> but
> > > > > nothing works.
> > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports (when
> > you
> > > > get
> > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But their
> > API
> > > > and
> > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with

what
> one
> > > > would
> > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good
> > documentation
> > > > on
> > > > > their APIs.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting
viewers
> > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" &

reportName)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the report

object
to
> the
> >
> > > > > > Session()
> > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be

sure to > > > explicity
> > > > > > cast
> > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny
> > > things
> > > > if
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading parameters > > feature
> > > > > works
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It > > prompts
> > > > for
> > > > > > > params
> > > > > > > > again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True"
in a > > viewer,
> > > > but
> > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this problem.

What's
> the
> > > > > > solution?
> > > > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #12

P: n/a
LP
> For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog box
opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.
You are tweaking Adobe settings not the browser.
Thus, this is a
browser setting. No, it's Adobe setting.

I can't find similar setting in browser or Excel Word either. And again lets
assume it's a browser setting, but that would default behavior of a browser.
So by default CR export functionality is unusable. I don't understand how CR
vendor (BusinessObjects as of today) could not see that someone would
actually want to save exported file, not just look at it in a popup window.
When I get a chance, I'll look into how to filter HTML rendered by CR and
modify it to enable save as functionality.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl... Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c I was able to toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into Adobe Properties and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog box
opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
prompted with this box again or just open the file directly. Thus, this is a browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer I was able to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a browser window
using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how to turn this on or off.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do get
it?

I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window with
Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and
certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way to
provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside a popup, I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do
get it?
It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and I think this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the toolbar not having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not knowledgeable about
HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can control this.
I
will have to research that tomorrow.

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
> I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
> When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup

window and
> loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way
to save
> it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And, yes,

you are
> right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" icon. But
I
> think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also looked in
> browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not

find
> anything.
> But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you suggesting.
I think
> this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that there's a > header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can specify > ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename=" tag

where
> you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save or

open that
> file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP header > tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of
> intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had any time
> to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a
demo
app.
> Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right
track. >
> Thank you again for your input.
>
>
> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last

week
> said
> > that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it

always
> > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new

window it
> > won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result of not being
> > able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.
> >
> > First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open dialog box,
> > then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom of the > dialog
> > box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with this or not.
I
> > played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no effect. I did > find
> > out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet
> preferences.
> > After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I looked in > > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus, the PDF
> > option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not CR XI.
> > Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types in
my
> > brower and you should be able to get them too.
> >
> > Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is
> happening
> > with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if
this is
a
> > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS
file to
> the
> > browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer to this
> > one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first issue
and get
> the
> > Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.
> >
> > HTH,
> >
> > Brian Bischof
> > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of
not saving
> > to
> > > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > >
> > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > >The best practice is to use the
> > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try
> > that
> > > > and
> > > > > post the results here.
> > > >
> > > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I
also have
> a
> > > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to a > client
> > > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one parameterized > > report.
> > > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I
tried my
> > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object,
etc. but
> > > nothing
> > > > seems to work.
> > > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup
> > > window
> > > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could

find
> > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom export > > button.
> > > My
> > > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet
> important
> > > > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes questionanle if
> > it's
> > > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like > > opening
> > > a
> > > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so
file can't
> > be
> > > > "save as"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in

message > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing book, > > > "Crystal
> > > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the ..NET object
> > > model
> > > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, it only
> > > > touches
> > > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that or
> > > not).
> > > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming > because
> > > RAS
> > > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that won't
> be
> > > > till
> > > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make is
> that
> > > they
> > > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. They
> set
> > > some
> > > > > properties using one object and set other properties using
the other
> > > > object
> > > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get > > dropped.
> > > > You
> > > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is to use
> > the
> > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
WebServices). Try
> > that
> > > > and
> > > > > post the results here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked
for
me > even
> > > > > without
> > > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another
problem
> > > with
> > > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to
excel and
> > sends
> > > a
> > > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work.
I
> > > tried
> > > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and
retrieving,
> > but
> > > > > > nothing works.
> > > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking reports > (when
> > > you
> > > > > get
> > > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But > their
> > > API
> > > > > and
> > > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent

with what
> > one
> > > > > would
> > > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good
> > > documentation
> > > > > on
> > > > > > their APIs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am setting > viewers
> > > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" &
reportName)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in > message
> > > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the report

object
to
> > the
> > >
> > > > > > > Session()
> > > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be

sure
to
> > > > explicity
> > > > > > > cast
> > > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all kinds of funny
> > > > things
> > > > > if
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading

parameters
> > > feature
> > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It
> > > prompts
> > > > > for
> > > > > > > > params
> > > > > > > > > again. I did set

ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True" in
a
> > > viewer,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this

problem. What's
> > the
> > > > > > > solution?
> > > > > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #13

P: n/a
Man, we are really going around in circles about this one. I still say it's
a browser issue and not a Crystal problem. For example, if I go into my
browser and tell it to display large fonts, I can't then send emails to
every website I visit complaining that their web designers should use
smaller fonts. On my browser I get the Open/Save dialog box that you don't
get and I also see an option to turn it off. Thus, it works fine on my
browser and it appears to be a browser controlled setting. So how could it
be a Crystal problem?

That being said, I have no clue about how the Header record effects what the
browser does. Maybe Crystal is using a Header record that makes the
Open/Save dialog box optional? Maybe their header record is only compatible
with certain browser versions and doesn't work with others? I don't know.
This whole thing is getting very frustrating and I'm determined to figure
out what the heck is going on. Having it work one way in one browser and
another way in another browser and having no idea why is driving me crazy.
Somewhere there has to be a reasonable explanation for this problem you are
having.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog box
opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.
You are tweaking Adobe settings not the browser.
Thus, this is a
browser setting.

No, it's Adobe setting.

I can't find similar setting in browser or Excel Word either. And again

lets assume it's a browser setting, but that would default behavior of a browser. So by default CR export functionality is unusable. I don't understand how CR vendor (BusinessObjects as of today) could not see that someone would
actually want to save exported file, not just look at it in a popup window. When I get a chance, I'll look into how to filter HTML rendered by CR and
modify it to enable save as functionality.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c I was able
to
toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog

box opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
prompted with this box again or just open the file directly. Thus, this is a
browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer I was able
to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a browser window
using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how to

turn
this on or off.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do

get it?

I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window with
Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and
certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way to
provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside a popup, I
would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do get it?
> It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and I think
> this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
> enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the
toolbar not
> having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not
knowledgeable about
> HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can control

this.
I
> will have to research that tomorrow.
>
> Brian Bischof
> www.CrystalReportsBook.com
>
>
>
> "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
> > I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
> > When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup

window and
> > loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way to
> save
> > it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And,
yes, you
> are
> > right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as"
icon. But
I
> > think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also looked in
> > browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could
not find
> > anything.
> > But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you suggesting.
I > think
> > this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that
there's
a > > header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can specify > > ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename="
tag where
> > you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save or open
> that
> > file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP

header
> > tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of
> > intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had

any time
> > to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a demo app.
> > Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right track. > >
> > Thank you again for your input.
> >
> >
> > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last week
> > said
> > > that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it always
> > > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new

window
> it
> > > won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result of not > being
> > > able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.
> > >
> > > First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open dialog > box,
> > > then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom of the > > dialog
> > > box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with this or not.
> I
> > > played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no effect. I did
> > find
> > > out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet
> > preferences.
> > > After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I
looked
in
> > > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option.
Thus, the
> PDF
> > > option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and
not CR
> XI.
> > > Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file
types in
my
> > > brower and you should be able to get them too.
> > >
> > > Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this
is > > happening
> > > with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if

this
is
a
> > > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS

file to
> > the
> > > browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer to
> this
> > > one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first issue and get
> > the
> > > Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.
> > >
> > > HTH,
> > >
> > > Brian Bischof
> > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
message > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of not > saving
> > > to
> > > > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > >The best practice is to use the
> > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with WebServices). Try
> > > that
> > > > > and
> > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > >
> > > > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also > have
> > a
> > > > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this file to
a
> > client
> > > > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one

parameterized
> > > report.
> > > > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I

tried my
> > > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc. but
> > > > nothing
> > > > > seems to work.
> > > > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer opens a popup
> > > > window
> > > > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could find
> > > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom

export
> > > button.
> > > > My
> > > > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet > > important
> > > > > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes

questionanle
> if
> > > it's
> > > > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like
> > > opening
> > > > a
> > > > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file > can't
> > > be
> > > > > "save as"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in

message
> > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my existing

book,
> > > > "Crystal
> > > > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET > object
> > > > model
> > > > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work.
Anyway,
it
> only
> > > > > touches
> > > > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if
using that
> or
> > > > not).
> > > > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS programming > > because
> > > > RAS
> > > > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that > won't
> > be
> > > > > till
> > > > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make
is
> > that
> > > > they
> > > > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object

model. They
> > set
> > > > some
> > > > > > properties using one object and set other properties using

the > other
> > > > > object
> > > > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the properties get > > > dropped.
> > > > > You
> > > > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best practice is
to
> use
> > > the
> > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with

WebServices). Try
> > > that
> > > > > and
> > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for
me
> > even
> > > > > > without
> > > > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another > problem
> > > > with
> > > > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to

excel and
> > > sends
> > > > a
> > > > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't work.
> I
> > > > tried
> > > > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and
> retrieving,
> > > but
> > > > > > > nothing works.
> > > > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking

reports
> > (when
> > > > you
> > > > > > get
> > > > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But
> > their
> > > > API
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with > what
> > > one
> > > > > > would
> > > > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any
good > > > > documentation
> > > > > > on
> > > > > > > their APIs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am

setting > > viewers
> > > > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" &
> reportName)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in > > message
> > > > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the report
object
> to
> > > the
> > > >
> > > > > > > > Session()
> > > > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be

sure
to
> > > > > explicity
> > > > > > > > cast
> > > > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all
kinds of > funny
> > > > > things
> > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading
parameters
> > > > feature
> > > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is resubmitted. It
> > > > prompts
> > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > params
> > > > > > > > > > again. I did set ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True"
in
a
> > > > viewer,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this

problem. > What's
> > > the
> > > > > > > > solution?
> > > > > > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #14

P: n/a
LP

Brian, I am not dismissing that it could be a browser setting. If you or
someone else finds where to change this setting, that would be great. Are
you saying that you get Open/Save dialog box for all formats; MS Excel, Word
not just PDF? If it's true then what Version of browser are you using?
Thanks

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Man, we are really going around in circles about this one. I still say it's a browser issue and not a Crystal problem. For example, if I go into my
browser and tell it to display large fonts, I can't then send emails to
every website I visit complaining that their web designers should use
smaller fonts. On my browser I get the Open/Save dialog box that you don't
get and I also see an option to turn it off. Thus, it works fine on my
browser and it appears to be a browser controlled setting. So how could it
be a Crystal problem?

That being said, I have no clue about how the Header record effects what the browser does. Maybe Crystal is using a Header record that makes the
Open/Save dialog box optional? Maybe their header record is only compatible with certain browser versions and doesn't work with others? I don't know.
This whole thing is getting very frustrating and I'm determined to figure
out what the heck is going on. Having it work one way in one browser and
another way in another browser and having no idea why is driving me crazy.
Somewhere there has to be a reasonable explanation for this problem you are having.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog box opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.
You are tweaking Adobe settings not the browser.
Thus, this is a
browser setting.

No, it's Adobe setting.

I can't find similar setting in browser or Excel Word either. And again

lets
assume it's a browser setting, but that would default behavior of a

browser.
So by default CR export functionality is unusable. I don't understand how CR
vendor (BusinessObjects as of today) could not see that someone would
actually want to save exported file, not just look at it in a popup window.
When I get a chance, I'll look into how to filter HTML rendered by CR and modify it to enable save as functionality.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c I was able
to
toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into Adobe

Properties
and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog

box opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
prompted with this box again or just open the file directly. Thus, this is
a
browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer I
was able
to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a browser
window using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how to turn
this on or off.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you
do get
> it?
>
> I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window
with > Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and > certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way to > provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside a
popup,
I
> would greatly appreciate it.
>
> Thanks
>
> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you do get
> it?
> > It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and
I think
> > this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
> > enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the

toolbar not
> > having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not knowledgeable > about
> > HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can control this.
> I
> > will have to research that tomorrow.
> >
> > Brian Bischof
> > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> >
> >
> >
> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
> > > I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
> > > When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup

window
> and
> > > loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way
to
> > save
> > > it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And,

yes, you
> > are
> > > right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" icon. But
> I
> > > think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also

looked
> in
> > > browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not > find
> > > anything.
> > > But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you suggesting.
I
> > think
> > > this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that

there's
a
> > > header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can

specify
> > > ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename="

tag > where
> > > you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save or open
> > that
> > > file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP header
> > > tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of > > > intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had any
> time
> > > to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a

demo
> app.
> > > Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right

track.
> > >
> > > Thank you again for your input.
> > >
> > >
> > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
message > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > > Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last > week
> > > said
> > > > that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it > always
> > > > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new window
> > it
> > > > won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result of not
> > being
> > > > able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.
> > > >
> > > > First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open

dialog
> > box,
> > > > then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom
of
the
> > > dialog
> > > > box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with
this or
> not.
> > I
> > > > played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no
effect. I did
> > > find
> > > > out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe
Internet > > > preferences.
> > > > After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I
looked in
> > > > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus, the
> > PDF
> > > > option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not CR
> > XI.
> > > > Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types in
> my
> > > > brower and you should be able to get them too.
> > > >
> > > > Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is > > > happening
> > > > with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if

this
is
> a
> > > > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS file
> to
> > > the
> > > > browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer to
> > this
> > > > one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first
issue
and
> get
> > > the
> > > > Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.
> > > >
> > > > HTH,
> > > >
> > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem
of not
> > saving
> > > > to
> > > > > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > >The best practice is to use the
> > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with

WebServices).
> Try
> > > > that
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But
I also
> > have
> > > a
> > > > > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this
file to
a
> > > client
> > > > > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one
parameterized
> > > > report.
> > > > > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I

tried
> my
> > > > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object,

etc.
> but
> > > > > nothing
> > > > > > seems to work.
> > > > > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer
opens a > popup
> > > > > window
> > > > > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could > find
> > > > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom
export
> > > > button.
> > > > > My
> > > > > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet > > > important
> > > > > > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes
questionanle
> > if
> > > > it's
> > > > > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre like
> > > > opening
> > > > > a
> > > > > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format,
so file
> > can't
> > > > be
> > > > > > "save as"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my
existing book,
> > > > > "Crystal
> > > > > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the

.NET
> > object
> > > > > model
> > > > > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work.

Anyway, it
> > only
> > > > > > touches
> > > > > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using that
> > or
> > > > > not).
> > > > > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS

programming
> > > because
> > > > > RAS
> > > > > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But

that
> > won't
> > > be
> > > > > > till
> > > > > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people

make
is
> > > that
> > > > > they
> > > > > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. > They
> > > set
> > > > > some
> > > > > > > properties using one object and set other properties using the
> > other
> > > > > > object
> > > > > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the
properties
get
> > > > dropped.
> > > > > > You
> > > > > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best
practice is
to
> > use
> > > > the
> > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with

WebServices).
> Try
> > > > that
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that
worked for
me
> > > even
> > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another > > problem
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to

excel
> and
> > > > sends
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't > work.
> > I
> > > > > tried
> > > > > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and
> > retrieving,
> > > > but
> > > > > > > > nothing works.
> > > > > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking
reports
> > > (when
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. But
> > > their
> > > > > API
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and
inconsistent with
> > what
> > > > one
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > their APIs.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am

setting
> > > viewers
> > > > > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" &
> > reportName)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com>

wrote in
> > > message
> > > > > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the

report > object
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Session()
> > > > > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh (be sure
> to
> > > > > > explicity
> > > > > > > > > cast
> > > > > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all

kinds
of
> > funny
> > > > > > things
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading
> parameters
> > > > > feature
> > > > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is

resubmitted.
> It
> > > > > prompts
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > params
> > > > > > > > > > > again. I did set

ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True"
in
> a
> > > > > viewer,
> > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this

problem.
> > What's
> > > > the
> > > > > > > > > solution?
> > > > > > > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > > > > >
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Nov 19 '05 #15

P: n/a
Guys,

I have been following this thread for a while (it's entertaining, I can't
wait for the finish) and was wondering what code is behind LP's Export
Button that may be different then Brian's. Maybe you guys should compare.

Rob

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Man, we are really going around in circles about this one. I still say
it's
a browser issue and not a Crystal problem. For example, if I go into my
browser and tell it to display large fonts, I can't then send emails to
every website I visit complaining that their web designers should use
smaller fonts. On my browser I get the Open/Save dialog box that you don't
get and I also see an option to turn it off. Thus, it works fine on my
browser and it appears to be a browser controlled setting. So how could it
be a Crystal problem?

That being said, I have no clue about how the Header record effects what
the
browser does. Maybe Crystal is using a Header record that makes the
Open/Save dialog box optional? Maybe their header record is only
compatible
with certain browser versions and doesn't work with others? I don't know.
This whole thing is getting very frustrating and I'm determined to figure
out what the heck is going on. Having it work one way in one browser and
another way in another browser and having no idea why is driving me crazy.
Somewhere there has to be a reasonable explanation for this problem you
are
having.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
> and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog box > opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
> prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.


You are tweaking Adobe settings not the browser.
>Thus, this is a
> browser setting.

No, it's Adobe setting.

I can't find similar setting in browser or Excel Word either. And again

lets
assume it's a browser setting, but that would default behavior of a

browser.
So by default CR export functionality is unusable. I don't understand how

CR
vendor (BusinessObjects as of today) could not see that someone would
actually want to save exported file, not just look at it in a popup

window.
When I get a chance, I'll look into how to filter HTML rendered by CR and
modify it to enable save as functionality.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c I was able
to
> toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into Adobe

Properties
> and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog

box > opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
> prompted with this box again or just open the file directly. Thus, this is
a
> browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer I was

able
> to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a browser
> window
> using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how to

turn
> this on or off.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you
> > > do

get
> > it?
> >
> > I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window
> > with
> > Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and
> > certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way to
> > provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside a

popup,
I
> > would greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you
> > > do

get
> > it?
> > > It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and
> > > I
> think
> > > this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
> > > enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the

toolbar > not
> > > having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not knowledgeable > > about
> > > HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can
> > > control
> this.
> > I
> > > will have to research that tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Brian Bischof
> > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
> > > > I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
> > > > When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup

window
> > and
> > > > loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way
to
> > > save
> > > > it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And,

yes, > you
> > > are
> > > > right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" icon. > But
> > I
> > > > think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also

looked
> > in
> > > > browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not > > find
> > > > anything.
> > > > But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you suggesting.
I
> > > think
> > > > this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that

there's
a
> > > > header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can

specify
> > > > ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename="

tag > > where
> > > > you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save
> > > > or
> open
> > > that
> > > > file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP
> header
> > > > tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of
> > > > intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had

any
> > time
> > > > to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a

demo
> > app.
> > > > Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right

track.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you again for your input.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last > > week
> > > > said
> > > > > that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it > > always
> > > > > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new
> window
> > > it
> > > > > won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result
> > > > > of

not
> > > being
> > > > > able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.
> > > > >
> > > > > First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open

dialog
> > > box,
> > > > > then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom
> > > > > of

the
> > > > dialog
> > > > > box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with
> > > > > this

or
> > not.
> > > I
> > > > > played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no
> > > > > effect. I > did
> > > > find
> > > > > out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet
> > > > preferences.
> > > > > After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I looked > in
> > > > > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus, > the
> > > PDF
> > > > > option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not > CR
> > > XI.
> > > > > Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types > in
> > my
> > > > > brower and you should be able to get them too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is > > > > happening
> > > > > with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if

this
> is
> > a
> > > > > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS

file
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the answer > to
> > > this
> > > > > one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first
> > > > > issue

and
> > get
> > > > the
> > > > > Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH,
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of

not
> > > saving
> > > > > to
> > > > > > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > >The best practice is to use the
> > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with

WebServices).
> > Try
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I

also
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this
> > > > > > > file

to
> a
> > > > client
> > > > > > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one
> parameterized
> > > > > report.
> > > > > > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I

tried
> > my
> > > > > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object,

etc.
> > but
> > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > seems to work.
> > > > > > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer
> > > > > > > opens a > > popup
> > > > > > window
> > > > > > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I could > > find
> > > > > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom
> export
> > > > > button.
> > > > > > My
> > > > > > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet > > > > important
> > > > > > > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes
> questionanle
> > > if
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just bizarre > like
> > > > > opening
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so

file
> > > can't
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > "save as"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
> message
> > > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my
> > > > > > > > existing
> book,
> > > > > > "Crystal
> > > > > > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the

.NET
> > > object
> > > > > > model
> > > > > > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. Anyway, > it
> > > only
> > > > > > > touches
> > > > > > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if using > that
> > > or
> > > > > > not).
> > > > > > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS

programming
> > > > because
> > > > > > RAS
> > > > > > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But

that
> > > won't
> > > > be
> > > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people

make
> is
> > > > that
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object model. > > They
> > > > set
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > properties using one object and set other properties
> > > > > > > > using

the
> > > other
> > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the
> > > > > > > > properties

get
> > > > > dropped.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best
> > > > > > > > practice

is
> to
> > > use
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with

WebServices).
> > Try
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked

for
> me
> > > > even
> > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having another > > > problem
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to

excel
> > and
> > > > > sends
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report doesn't > > work.
> > > I
> > > > > > tried
> > > > > > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and
> > > retrieving,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > nothing works.
> > > > > > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking
> reports
> > > > (when
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI. > But
> > > > their
> > > > > > API
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent

with
> > > what
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > their APIs.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am

setting
> > > > viewers
> > > > > > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" &
> > > reportName)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote

in
> > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the
> > > > > > > > > > > report
> > object
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Session()
> > > > > > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh
> > > > > > > > > > > (be
> sure
> > to
> > > > > > > explicity
> > > > > > > > > > cast
> > > > > > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all

kinds
of
> > > funny
> > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading
> > parameters
> > > > > > feature
> > > > > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is

resubmitted.
> > It
> > > > > > prompts
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > params
> > > > > > > > > > > > again. I did set

ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True"
> in
> > a
> > > > > > viewer,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this

problem.
> > > What's
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > solution?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > > > > > >
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Nov 19 '05 #16

P: n/a
I'm glad we are providing entertainment for everyone. ;-)

It's not a code problem. The problem is the ASP.NET viewer toolbar in XI.
The ironic thing is that I sent two emails to tech support and they were
thinking I was talking about the code too. Anyway, I heard back from a
support guy and he says that this behavior is controlled through the File
Types dialog box in Windows Explorer. I'm going to look into it and post his
full response once I check it out.

Oh yeah - re the Save/Open dialog box behavior, yes I get it for all file
types including Excel and Word. Anyway, I should be posting the resolution
shortly, and then we can all get back to our normal jobs! :-)
Brian
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"Rob Diamant" <ro*@usi.com> wrote in message
news:Ow****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Guys,

I have been following this thread for a while (it's entertaining, I can't
wait for the finish) and was wondering what code is behind LP's Export
Button that may be different then Brian's. Maybe you guys should compare.

Rob

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Man, we are really going around in circles about this one. I still say
it's
a browser issue and not a Crystal problem. For example, if I go into my
browser and tell it to display large fonts, I can't then send emails to
every website I visit complaining that their web designers should use
smaller fonts. On my browser I get the Open/Save dialog box that you don't get and I also see an option to turn it off. Thus, it works fine on my
browser and it appears to be a browser controlled setting. So how could it be a Crystal problem?

That being said, I have no clue about how the Header record effects what
the
browser does. Maybe Crystal is using a Header record that makes the
Open/Save dialog box optional? Maybe their header record is only
compatible
with certain browser versions and doesn't work with others? I don't know. This whole thing is getting very frustrating and I'm determined to figure out what the heck is going on. Having it work one way in one browser and
another way in another browser and having no idea why is driving me crazy. Somewhere there has to be a reasonable explanation for this problem you
are
having.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
> and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog

box
> opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
> prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.

You are tweaking Adobe settings not the browser.

>Thus, this is a
> browser setting.
No, it's Adobe setting.

I can't find similar setting in browser or Excel Word either. And again

lets
assume it's a browser setting, but that would default behavior of a

browser.
So by default CR export functionality is unusable. I don't understand how
CR
vendor (BusinessObjects as of today) could not see that someone would
actually want to save exported file, not just look at it in a popup

window.
When I get a chance, I'll look into how to filter HTML rendered by CR
and modify it to enable save as functionality.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c I was

able
to
> toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into Adobe
Properties
> and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog

box
> opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
> prompted with this box again or just open the file directly. Thus, this is
a
> browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer I
was able
> to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a browser
> window
> using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how to turn
> this on or off.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you
> > > do
get
> > it?
> >
> > I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window
> > with
> > Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and > > certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way to > > provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside a

popup,
I
> > would greatly appreciate it.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or you
> > > do
get
> > it?
> > > It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and > > > I
> think
> > > this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
> > > enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the

toolbar
> not
> > > having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not

knowledgeable
> > about
> > > HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can
> > > control
> this.
> > I
> > > will have to research that tomorrow.
> > >
> > > Brian Bischof
> > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
> > > > I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
> > > > When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup
window
> > and
> > > > loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious

way
to
> > > save
> > > > it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And,

yes,
> you
> > > are
> > > > right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as"

icon.
> But
> > I
> > > > think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also
looked
> > in
> > > > browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not
> > find
> > > > anything.
> > > > But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you

suggesting.
I
> > > think
> > > > this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that

there's
a
> > > > header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can
specify
> > > > ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment;
filename=" tag
> > where
> > > > you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save
> > > > or
> open
> > > that
> > > > file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right
HTTP > header
> > > > tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of > > > > intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had any
> > time
> > > > to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building a demo
> > app.
> > > > Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the right
track.
> > > >
> > > > Thank you again for your input.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had

last
> > week
> > > > said
> > > > > that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it
> > always
> > > > > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the
new > window
> > > it
> > > > > won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result
> > > > > of
not
> > > being
> > > > > able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.
> > > > >
> > > > > First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open
dialog
> > > box,
> > > > > then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom
> > > > > of
the
> > > > dialog
> > > > > box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with
> > > > > this
or
> > not.
> > > I
> > > > > played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no
> > > > > effect.

I
> did
> > > > find
> > > > > out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet > > > > preferences.
> > > > > After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I

looked
> in
> > > > > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option.

Thus,
> the
> > > PDF
> > > > > option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not
> CR
> > > XI.
> > > > > Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file

types
> in
> > my
> > > > > brower and you should be able to get them too.
> > > > >
> > > > > Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data,
this is
> > > > happening
> > > > > with my computer as well. However, again I have to question

if this
> is
> > a
> > > > > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS file
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the

answer
> to
> > > this
> > > > > one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first
> > > > > issue
and
> > get
> > > > the
> > > > > Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH,
> > > > >
> > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in

message
> > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of not
> > > saving
> > > > > to
> > > > > > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > >The best practice is to use the
> > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
WebServices).
> > Try
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But I also
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this
> > > > > > > file
to
> a
> > > > client
> > > > > > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one
> parameterized
> > > > > report.
> > > > > > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with reportdocument. I tried
> > my
> > > > > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object, etc.
> > but
> > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > seems to work.
> > > > > > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer
> > > > > > > opens

a
> > popup
> > > > > > window
> > > > > > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I

could
> > find
> > > > > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom > export
> > > > > button.
> > > > > > My
> > > > > > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but

yet
> > > > important
> > > > > > > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes
> questionanle
> > > if
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just

bizarre
> like
> > > > > opening
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so file
> > > can't
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > "save as"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
> message
> > > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my
> > > > > > > > existing
> book,
> > > > > > "Crystal
> > > > > > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use the .NET
> > > object
> > > > > > model
> > > > > > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work.

Anyway,
> it
> > > only
> > > > > > > touches
> > > > > > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if

using
> that
> > > or
> > > > > > not).
> > > > > > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS
programming
> > > > because
> > > > > > RAS
> > > > > > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But that
> > > won't
> > > > be
> > > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people make
> is
> > > > that
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object

model.
> > They
> > > > set
> > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > properties using one object and set other properties
> > > > > > > > using
the
> > > other
> > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the
> > > > > > > > properties
get
> > > > > dropped.
> > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best
> > > > > > > > practice
is
> to
> > > use
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
WebServices).
> > Try
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked for
> me
> > > > even
> > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having

another
> > > problem
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to excel
> > and
> > > > > sends
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report

doesn't
> > work.
> > > I
> > > > > > tried
> > > > > > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and > > > retrieving,
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > nothing works.
> > > > > > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking
> reports
> > > > (when
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version

XI.
> But
> > > > their
> > > > > > API
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent with
> > > what
> > > > > one
> > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any

good
> > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > their APIs.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am
setting
> > > > viewers
> > > > > > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" &
> > > reportName)
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com>
> > > > > > > > > > wrote
in
> > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the
> > > > > > > > > > > report
> > object
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Session()
> > > > > > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh
> > > > > > > > > > > (be
> sure
> > to
> > > > > > > explicity
> > > > > > > > > > cast
> > > > > > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all

kinds
of
> > > funny
> > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading
> > parameters
> > > > > > feature
> > > > > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is
resubmitted.
> > It
> > > > > > prompts
> > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > params
> > > > > > > > > > > > again. I did set
ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True"
> in
> > a
> > > > > > viewer,
> > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this
problem.
> > > What's
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > solution?
> > > > > > > > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #17

P: n/a
After playing around with this it seems to work really well. In fact, I'm
even able to get the Excel export to open in Excel with a full toolbar. I
feel so much better now. Here is the resolution email. Play around with the
different checkboxes to get different results. This email is from the guy
that wrote the XI toolbar export functionality!

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com
-------------------
It sounds like the exporting is done through the viewer toolbar in a webform
viewer. The behavior is generic for IE and depends on whether user has
disabled the confirmation dialog, and whether the file is sent as
attachment. We send exported files inline, not as attachment, when
exporting through the viewer. You can change this behavior by adjusting the
user setting as below.

1. Open an Explorer window.
2. Select Tools | Folder Options (assuming Windows XP).
3. Select File Types tab.
4. Find the appropriate file type, click Advanced button.
5. Ensure "Confirm open after download" is checked.

There is a new method on ReportDocument.ExportToHttpResponse for developers
to control whether the exported file is sent as attachment.

I suspect the toolbar problem is because we turned off the IE menu in that
export window. There is no way to turn the menu on at this time.

-------------------
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:eD**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I'm glad we are providing entertainment for everyone. ;-)

It's not a code problem. The problem is the ASP.NET viewer toolbar in XI.
The ironic thing is that I sent two emails to tech support and they were
thinking I was talking about the code too. Anyway, I heard back from a
support guy and he says that this behavior is controlled through the File
Types dialog box in Windows Explorer. I'm going to look into it and post his full response once I check it out.

Oh yeah - re the Save/Open dialog box behavior, yes I get it for all file
types including Excel and Word. Anyway, I should be posting the resolution
shortly, and then we can all get back to our normal jobs! :-)
Brian
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"Rob Diamant" <ro*@usi.com> wrote in message
news:Ow****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Guys,

I have been following this thread for a while (it's entertaining, I can't
wait for the finish) and was wondering what code is behind LP's Export
Button that may be different then Brian's. Maybe you guys should compare.
Rob

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Man, we are really going around in circles about this one. I still say
it's
a browser issue and not a Crystal problem. For example, if I go into my browser and tell it to display large fonts, I can't then send emails to every website I visit complaining that their web designers should use
smaller fonts. On my browser I get the Open/Save dialog box that you
don't get and I also see an option to turn it off. Thus, it works fine on my
browser and it appears to be a browser controlled setting. So how could it
be a Crystal problem?

That being said, I have no clue about how the Header record effects
what the
browser does. Maybe Crystal is using a Header record that makes the
Open/Save dialog box optional? Maybe their header record is only
compatible
with certain browser versions and doesn't work with others? I don't
know. This whole thing is getting very frustrating and I'm determined to figure out what the heck is going on. Having it work one way in one browser and another way in another browser and having no idea why is driving me crazy. Somewhere there has to be a reasonable explanation for this problem you are
having.

Brian

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
> > and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog box
> > opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be> > prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.
>
> You are tweaking Adobe settings not the browser.
>
> >Thus, this is a
> > browser setting.
> No, it's Adobe setting.
>
> I can't find similar setting in browser or Excel Word either. And again lets
> assume it's a browser setting, but that would default behavior of a
browser.
> So by default CR export functionality is unusable. I don't understand how CR
> vendor (BusinessObjects as of today) could not see that someone would
> actually want to save exported file, not just look at it in a popup
window.
> When I get a chance, I'll look into how to filter HTML rendered by CR and> modify it to enable save as functionality.
>
>
> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c I was able
> to
> > toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into Adobe
> Properties
> > and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog box
> > opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be> > prompted with this box again or just open the file directly. Thus, this is
> a
> > browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer I was> able
> > to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a browser
> > window
> > using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how to
> turn
> > this on or off.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or
you> > > > do
> get
> > > it?
> > >
> > > I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window
> > > with
> > > Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing
and> > > certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way to
> > > provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside a
popup,
> I
> > > would greatly appreciate it.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> > > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or
you> > > > do
> get
> > > it?
> > > > It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer
and> > > > I
> > think
> > > > this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn
> > > > enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the
toolbar
> > not
> > > > having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not
knowledgeable
> > > about
> > > > HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can
> > > > control
> > this.
> > > I
> > > > will have to research that tomorrow.
> > > >
> > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > > Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
> > > > > I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
> > > > > When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup> window
> > > and
> > > > > loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious way
> to
> > > > save
> > > > > it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And, yes,
> > you
> > > > are
> > > > > right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" icon.
> > But
> > > I
> > > > > think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also> looked
> > > in
> > > > > browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but could not
> > > find
> > > > > anything.
> > > > > But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you
suggesting.
> I
> > > > think
> > > > > this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that
there's
> a
> > > > > header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can> specify
> > > > > ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment; filename=" tag
> > > where
> > > > > you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save> > > > > or
> > open
> > > > that
> > > > > file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP> > header
> > > > > tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking of
> > > > > intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had> any
> > > time
> > > > > to do anything serious like that, after all I am just
building
a> demo
> > > app.
> > > > > Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the
right> track.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you again for your input.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
message> > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had last
> > > week
> > > > > said
> > > > > > that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open. Instead, it
> > > always
> > > > > > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new> > window
> > > > it
> > > > > > won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result> > > > > > of
> not
> > > > being
> > > > > > able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open> dialog
> > > > box,
> > > > > > then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom> > > > > > of
> the
> > > > > dialog
> > > > > > box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you with
> > > > > > this
> or
> > > not.
> > > > I
> > > > > > played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no
> > > > > > effect.
I
> > did
> > > > > find
> > > > > > out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe Internet> > > > > preferences.
> > > > > > After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I
looked
> > in
> > > > > > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option. Thus,
> > the
> > > > PDF
> > > > > > option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and not
> > CR
> > > > XI.
> > > > > > Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file types
> > in
> > > my
> > > > > > brower and you should be able to get them too.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data, this is
> > > > > happening
> > > > > > with my computer as well. However, again I have to question if> this
> > is
> > > a
> > > > > > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS> file
> > > to
> > > > > the
> > > > > > browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the
answer
> > to
> > > > this
> > > > > > one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first
> > > > > > issue
> and
> > > get
> > > > > the
> > > > > > Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
message
> > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > Those are good points. Let me look into the export problem of
> not
> > > > saving
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Brian
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > >The best practice is to use the
> > > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
> WebServices).
> > > Try
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems.
But
I> also
> > > > have
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this
> > > > > > > > file
> to
> > a
> > > > > client
> > > > > > > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one
> > parameterized
> > > > > > report.
> > > > > > > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with
reportdocument.
I> tried
> > > my
> > > > > > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields object,> etc.
> > > but
> > > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > > seems to work.
> > > > > > > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer
> > > > > > > > opens
a
> > > popup
> > > > > > > window
> > > > > > > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If
I could
> > > find
> > > > > > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this
custom> > export
> > > > > > button.
> > > > > > > My
> > > > > > > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but yet
> > > > > important
> > > > > > > > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes
> > questionanle
> > > > if
> > > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just
bizarre
> > like
> > > > > > opening
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format, so
> file
> > > > can't
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > "save as"
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote
in> > message
> > > > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my
> > > > > > > > > existing
> > book,
> > > > > > > "Crystal
> > > > > > > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to use

the> .NET
> > > > object
> > > > > > > model
> > > > > > > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work.
Anyway,
> > it
> > > > only
> > > > > > > > touches
> > > > > > > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if
using
> > that
> > > > or
> > > > > > > not).
> > > > > > > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS
> programming
> > > > > because
> > > > > > > RAS
> > > > > > > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But> that
> > > > won't
> > > > > be
> > > > > > > > till
> > > > > > > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people> make
> > is
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > they
> > > > > > > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object
model.
> > > They
> > > > > set
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > properties using one object and set other properties
> > > > > > > > > using
> the
> > > > other
> > > > > > > > object
> > > > > > > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the
> > > > > > > > > properties
> get
> > > > > > dropped.
> > > > > > > > You
> > > > > > > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best
> > > > > > > > > practice
> is
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
> WebServices).
> > > Try
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > post the results here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked> for
> > me
> > > > > even
> > > > > > > > > without
> > > > > > > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having
another
> > > > problem
> > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to> excel
> > > and
> > > > > > sends
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report
doesn't
> > > work.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > tried
> > > > > > > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and> > > > retrieving,
> > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > nothing works.
> > > > > > > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp looking> > reports
> > > > > (when
> > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > get
> > > > > > > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version XI.
> > But
> > > > > their
> > > > > > > API
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and inconsistent> with
> > > > what
> > > > > > one
> > > > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any good
> > > > > > > documentation
> > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > their APIs.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I am
> setting
> > > > > viewers
> > > > > > > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" &> > > > reportName)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > What should I do in this case?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com>
> > > > > > > > > > > wrote
> in
> > > > > message
> > > > > > > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the
> > > > > > > > > > > > report
> > > object
> > > > to
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Session()
> > > > > > > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page refresh> > > > > > > > > > > > (be
> > sure
> > > to
> > > > > > > > explicity
> > > > > > > > > > > cast
> > > > > > > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all
kinds
> of
> > > > funny
> > > > > > > > things
> > > > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > > > > > you
> > > > > > > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > HTH,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> > > > > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > > > > > > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading> > > parameters
> > > > > > > feature
> > > > > > > > > > works
> > > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is
> resubmitted.
> > > It
> > > > > > > prompts
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > > params
> > > > > > > > > > > > > again. I did set
> ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True"
> > in
> > > a
> > > > > > > viewer,
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > it
> > > > > > > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this
> problem.
> > > > What's
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > solution?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 19 '05 #18

P: n/a
LP
Brian, Wow!!! It worked!!!
Thanks a lot for getting this one resolved.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:un**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
After playing around with this it seems to work really well. In fact, I'm
even able to get the Excel export to open in Excel with a full toolbar. I
feel so much better now. Here is the resolution email. Play around with the different checkboxes to get different results. This email is from the guy
that wrote the XI toolbar export functionality!

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com
-------------------
It sounds like the exporting is done through the viewer toolbar in a webform viewer. The behavior is generic for IE and depends on whether user has
disabled the confirmation dialog, and whether the file is sent as
attachment. We send exported files inline, not as attachment, when
exporting through the viewer. You can change this behavior by adjusting the user setting as below.

1. Open an Explorer window.
2. Select Tools | Folder Options (assuming Windows XP).
3. Select File Types tab.
4. Find the appropriate file type, click Advanced button.
5. Ensure "Confirm open after download" is checked.

There is a new method on ReportDocument.ExportToHttpResponse for developers to control whether the exported file is sent as attachment.

I suspect the toolbar problem is because we turned off the IE menu in that
export window. There is no way to turn the menu on at this time.

-------------------
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:eD**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I'm glad we are providing entertainment for everyone. ;-)

It's not a code problem. The problem is the ASP.NET viewer toolbar in XI.
The ironic thing is that I sent two emails to tech support and they were
thinking I was talking about the code too. Anyway, I heard back from a
support guy and he says that this behavior is controlled through the File Types dialog box in Windows Explorer. I'm going to look into it and post his
full response once I check it out.

Oh yeah - re the Save/Open dialog box behavior, yes I get it for all file types including Excel and Word. Anyway, I should be posting the resolution shortly, and then we can all get back to our normal jobs! :-)
Brian
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"Rob Diamant" <ro*@usi.com> wrote in message
news:Ow****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Guys,

I have been following this thread for a while (it's entertaining, I can't wait for the finish) and was wondering what code is behind LP's Export
Button that may be different then Brian's. Maybe you guys should compare.
Rob

"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Man, we are really going around in circles about this one. I still say > it's
> a browser issue and not a Crystal problem. For example, if I go into my > browser and tell it to display large fonts, I can't then send emails to > every website I visit complaining that their web designers should use > smaller fonts. On my browser I get the Open/Save dialog box that you

don't
> get and I also see an option to turn it off. Thus, it works fine on my > browser and it appears to be a browser controlled setting. So how could
it
> be a Crystal problem?
>
> That being said, I have no clue about how the Header record effects

what > the
> browser does. Maybe Crystal is using a Header record that makes the
> Open/Save dialog box optional? Maybe their header record is only
> compatible
> with certain browser versions and doesn't work with others? I don't

know.
> This whole thing is getting very frustrating and I'm determined to

figure
> out what the heck is going on. Having it work one way in one browser and > another way in another browser and having no idea why is driving me

crazy.
> Somewhere there has to be a reasonable explanation for this problem you > are
> having.
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
>> > and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog > box
>> > opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should be
>> > prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.
>>
>> You are tweaking Adobe settings not the browser.
>>
>> >Thus, this is a
>> > browser setting.
>> No, it's Adobe setting.
>>
>> I can't find similar setting in browser or Excel Word either. And again > lets
>> assume it's a browser setting, but that would default behavior of a
> browser.
>> So by default CR export functionality is unusable. I don't
understand how
> CR
>> vendor (BusinessObjects as of today) could not see that someone
would >> actually want to save exported file, not just look at it in a popup
> window.
>> When I get a chance, I'll look into how to filter HTML rendered by CR and
>> modify it to enable save as functionality.
>>
>>
>> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
>> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
>> > Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c I was > able
>> to
>> > toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into Adobe
>> Properties
>> > and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog > box
>> > opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you
should
be >> > prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.
Thus, this
> is
>> a
>> > browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer
I was
>> able
>> > to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a browser
>> > window
>> > using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how
to
>> turn
>> > this on or off.
>> >
>> > Brian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
>> > news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or
you >> > > > do
>> get
>> > > it?
>> > >
>> > > I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup
window >> > > with
>> > > Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and
>> > > certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with a way
to
>> > > provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded inside

a > popup,
>> I
>> > > would greatly appreciate it.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > >
>> > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message >> > > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box or

you >> > > > do
>> get
>> > > it?
>> > > > It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and
>> > > > I
>> > think
>> > > > this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to
turn >> > > > enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of the
> toolbar
>> > not
>> > > > having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not
> knowledgeable
>> > > about
>> > > > HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can
>> > > > control
>> > this.
>> > > I
>> > > > will have to research that tomorrow.
>> > > >
>> > > > Brian Bischof
>> > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
>> > > > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
>> > > > > I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
>> > > > > When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup >> window
>> > > and
>> > > > > loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no obvious > way
>> to
>> > > > save
>> > > > > it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste) And, > yes,
>> > you
>> > > > are
>> > > > > right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as" > icon.
>> > But
>> > > I
>> > > > > think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser. I also >> looked
>> > > in
>> > > > > browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box, but

could
> not
>> > > find
>> > > > > anything.
>> > > > > But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you
> suggesting.
>> I
>> > > > think
>> > > > > this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know that > there's
>> a
>> > > > > header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can >> specify
>> > > > > ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment;

filename="
> tag
>> > > where
>> > > > > you can give file name and browser then will prompt you to save >> > > > > or
>> > open
>> > > > that
>> > > > > file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP
>> > header
>> > > > > tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am thinking
of
>> > > > > intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I
haven't had
>> any
>> > > time
>> > > > > to do anything serious like that, after all I am just building
a
>> demo
>> > > app.
>> > > > > Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the

right >> track.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank you again for your input.
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in

message
>> > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post you had > last
>> > > week
>> > > > > said
>> > > > > > that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open.

Instead,
> it
>> > > always
>> > > > > > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in
the new
>> > window
>> > > > it
>> > > > > > won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct result >> > > > > > of
>> not
>> > > > being
>> > > > > > able to solve the first problem. So here are my comments.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > First is that if the export button doesn't open the Save/Open >> dialog
>> > > > box,
>> > > > > > then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the bottom >> > > > > > of
>> the
>> > > > > dialog
>> > > > > > box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you
with >> > > > > > this
>> or
>> > > not.
>> > > > I
>> > > > > > played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no
>> > > > > > effect.
> I
>> > did
>> > > > > find
>> > > > > > out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe

Internet
>> > > > > preferences.
>> > > > > > After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I > looked
>> > in
>> > > > > > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an

option. > Thus,
>> > the
>> > > > PDF
>> > > > > > option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and
> not
>> > CR
>> > > > XI.
>> > > > > > Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all file > types
>> > in
>> > > my
>> > > > > > brower and you should be able to get them too.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save data,

this
> is
>> > > > > happening
>> > > > > > with my computer as well. However, again I have to
question
if
>> this
>> > is
>> > > a
>> > > > > > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending
the XLS
>> file
>> > > to
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know
the > answer
>> > to
>> > > > this
>> > > > > > one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first >> > > > > > issue
>> and
>> > > get
>> > > > > the
>> > > > > > Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings. >> > > > > >
>> > > > > > HTH,
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Brian Bischof
>> > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
> message
>> > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > Those are good points. Let me look into the export

problem
of
>> not
>> > > > saving
>> > > > > > to
>> > > > > > > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Brian
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
>> > > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > >The best practice is to use the
>> > > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
>> WebServices).
>> > > Try
>> > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > post the results here.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems.

But
I
>> also
>> > > > have
>> > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this >> > > > > > > > file
>> to
>> > a
>> > > > > client
>> > > > > > > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one
>> > parameterized
>> > > > > > report.
>> > > > > > > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with

reportdocument.
I
>> tried
>> > > my
>> > > > > > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields

object,
>> etc.
>> > > but
>> > > > > > > nothing
>> > > > > > > > seems to work.
>> > > > > > > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer >> > > > > > > > opens
> a
>> > > popup
>> > > > > > > window
>> > > > > > > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If I > could
>> > > find
>> > > > > > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this custom
>> > export
>> > > > > > button.
>> > > > > > > My
>> > > > > > > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very simple but > yet
>> > > > > important
>> > > > > > > > things take so much time effort to do that it becomes
>> > questionanle
>> > > > if
>> > > > > > it's
>> > > > > > > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just
> bizarre
>> > like
>> > > > > > opening
>> > > > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another format,
so
>> file
>> > > > can't
>> > > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > "save as"
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com>

wrote in >> > message
>> > > > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my
>> > > > > > > > > existing
>> > book,
>> > > > > > > "Crystal
>> > > > > > > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to
use the
>> .NET
>> > > > object
>> > > > > > > model
>> > > > > > > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to
work. > Anyway,
>> > it
>> > > > only
>> > > > > > > > touches
>> > > > > > > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if > using
>> > that
>> > > > or
>> > > > > > > not).
>> > > > > > > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore RAS
>> programming
>> > > > > because
>> > > > > > > RAS
>> > > > > > > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program with.. But
>> that
>> > > > won't
>> > > > > be
>> > > > > > > > till
>> > > > > > > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most people
>> make
>> > is
>> > > > > that
>> > > > > > > they
>> > > > > > > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report
object > model.
>> > > They
>> > > > > set
>> > > > > > > some
>> > > > > > > > > properties using one object and set other properties >> > > > > > > > > using
>> the
>> > > > other
>> > > > > > > > object
>> > > > > > > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the
>> > > > > > > > > properties
>> get
>> > > > > > dropped.
>> > > > > > > > You
>> > > > > > > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best
>> > > > > > > > > practice
>> is
>> > to
>> > > > use
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
>> WebServices).
>> > > Try
>> > > > > > that
>> > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > post the results here.
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
>> > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that

worked
>> for
>> > me
>> > > > > even
>> > > > > > > > > without
>> > > > > > > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having > another
>> > > > problem
>> > > > > > > with
>> > > > > > > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to
>> excel
>> > > and
>> > > > > > sends
>> > > > > > > a
>> > > > > > > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report
> doesn't
>> > > work.
>> > > > I
>> > > > > > > tried
>> > > > > > > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to
session and
>> > > > retrieving,
>> > > > > > but
>> > > > > > > > > > nothing works.
>> > > > > > > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp

looking >> > reports
>> > > > > (when
>> > > > > > > you
>> > > > > > > > > get
>> > > > > > > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially version > XI.
>> > But
>> > > > > their
>> > > > > > > API
>> > > > > > > > > and
>> > > > > > > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and

inconsistent
>> with
>> > > > what
>> > > > > > one
>> > > > > > > > > would
>> > > > > > > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any > good
>> > > > > > > documentation
>> > > > > > > > > on
>> > > > > > > > > > their APIs.
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object, I
am >> setting
>> > > > > viewers
>> > > > > > > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/" & >> > > > reportName)
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > What should I do in this case?
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof"
<Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote
>> in
>> > > > > message
>> > > > > > > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save the
>> > > > > > > > > > > > report
>> > > object
>> > > > to
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > Session()
>> > > > > > > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page

refresh >> > > > > > > > > > > > (be
>> > sure
>> > > to
>> > > > > > > > explicity
>> > > > > > > > > > > cast
>> > > > > > > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do all > kinds
>> of
>> > > > funny
>> > > > > > > > things
>> > > > > > > > > if
>> > > > > > > > > > > you
>> > > > > > > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > HTH,
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
>> > > > > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
>> > > > > > > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI, cascading >> > > parameters
>> > > > > > > feature
>> > > > > > > > > > works
>> > > > > > > > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is
>> resubmitted.
>> > > It
>> > > > > > > prompts
>> > > > > > > > > for
>> > > > > > > > > > > > params
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > again. I did set
>> ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True"
>> > in
>> > > a
>> > > > > > > viewer,
>> > > > > > > > > but
>> > > > > > > > > > > it
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this >> problem.
>> > > > What's
>> > > > > > the
>> > > > > > > > > > > solution?
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help.
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > >
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>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
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>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > >
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>



Nov 19 '05 #19

P: n/a
Pop open the champagne! It's time to celebrate!!!!!

:-D

"LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Brian, Wow!!! It worked!!!
Thanks a lot for getting this one resolved.
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:un**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
After playing around with this it seems to work really well. In fact, I'm
even able to get the Excel export to open in Excel with a full toolbar. I feel so much better now. Here is the resolution email. Play around with the
different checkboxes to get different results. This email is from the guy that wrote the XI toolbar export functionality!

HTH,

Brian Bischof
www.CrystalReportsBook.com
-------------------
It sounds like the exporting is done through the viewer toolbar in a

webform
viewer. The behavior is generic for IE and depends on whether user has
disabled the confirmation dialog, and whether the file is sent as
attachment. We send exported files inline, not as attachment, when
exporting through the viewer. You can change this behavior by adjusting

the
user setting as below.

1. Open an Explorer window.
2. Select Tools | Folder Options (assuming Windows XP).
3. Select File Types tab.
4. Find the appropriate file type, click Advanced button.
5. Ensure "Confirm open after download" is checked.

There is a new method on ReportDocument.ExportToHttpResponse for

developers
to control whether the exported file is sent as attachment.

I suspect the toolbar problem is because we turned off the IE menu in that export window. There is no way to turn the menu on at this time.

-------------------
"Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
news:eD**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I'm glad we are providing entertainment for everyone. ;-)

It's not a code problem. The problem is the ASP.NET viewer toolbar in XI. The ironic thing is that I sent two emails to tech support and they were thinking I was talking about the code too. Anyway, I heard back from a
support guy and he says that this behavior is controlled through the File Types dialog box in Windows Explorer. I'm going to look into it and post his
full response once I check it out.

Oh yeah - re the Save/Open dialog box behavior, yes I get it for all file types including Excel and Word. Anyway, I should be posting the resolution shortly, and then we can all get back to our normal jobs! :-)
Brian
www.CrystalReportsBook.com

"Rob Diamant" <ro*@usi.com> wrote in message
news:Ow****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Guys,
>
> I have been following this thread for a while (it's entertaining, I

can't
> wait for the finish) and was wondering what code is behind LP's
Export > Button that may be different then Brian's. Maybe you guys should

compare.
>
> Rob
>
> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > Man, we are really going around in circles about this one. I still say > > it's
> > a browser issue and not a Crystal problem. For example, if I go into my
> > browser and tell it to display large fonts, I can't then send
emails
to
> > every website I visit complaining that their web designers should use > > smaller fonts. On my browser I get the Open/Save dialog box that
you don't
> > get and I also see an option to turn it off. Thus, it works fine on my > > browser and it appears to be a browser controlled setting. So how could
it
> > be a Crystal problem?
> >
> > That being said, I have no clue about how the Header record
effects what
> > the
> > browser does. Maybe Crystal is using a Header record that makes
the > > Open/Save dialog box optional? Maybe their header record is only
> > compatible
> > with certain browser versions and doesn't work with others? I don't know.
> > This whole thing is getting very frustrating and I'm determined to
figure
> > out what the heck is going on. Having it work one way in one browser and
> > another way in another browser and having no idea why is driving
me crazy.
> > Somewhere there has to be a reasonable explanation for this problem you
> > are
> > having.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> >
> >
> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> > news:O$**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > For example, I can go into Adobe Properties
> >> > and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that

dialog
> > box
> >> > opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you should
be
> >> > prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.
> >>
> >> You are tweaking Adobe settings not the browser.
> >>
> >> >Thus, this is a
> >> > browser setting.
> >> No, it's Adobe setting.
> >>
> >> I can't find similar setting in browser or Excel Word either. And

again
> > lets
> >> assume it's a browser setting, but that would default behavior of

a > > browser.
> >> So by default CR export functionality is unusable. I don't

understand how
> > CR
> >> vendor (BusinessObjects as of today) could not see that someone would > >> actually want to save exported file, not just look at it in a popup > > window.
> >> When I get a chance, I'll look into how to filter HTML rendered by CR
and
> >> modify it to enable save as functionality.
> >>
> >>
> >> "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> >> > Ok, that's what I thought. I think that is a browser issue b/c
I was
> > able
> >> to
> >> > toggle this feature on and off. For example, I can go into
Adobe > >> Properties
> >> > and turn this on and off using one of their options. When that dialog
> > box
> >> > opens, there is a checkbox at the bottom about whether you

should
be
> >> > prompted with this box again or just open the file directly.

Thus, this
> > is
> >> a
> >> > browser setting. The header doesn't control it b/c on my computer I
was
> >> able
> >> > to get the dialog box to come up or send it directly to a
browser > >> > window
> >> > using and Adobe Properties setting. I would search Google to see how
to
> >> turn
> >> > this on or off.
> >> >
> >> > Brian
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:er**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box
or you
> >> > > > do
> >> get
> >> > > it?
> >> > >
> >> > > I do NOT get it. When I click export icon it opens a popup window > >> > > with
> >> > > Excel, or Word embedded in the window, but no toolbars no nothing and
> >> > > certainly NO "Save as" dialog box. If you could come up with
a way
to
> >> > > provide users with ability to "save as" what's embedded
inside
a > > popup,
> >> I
> >> > > would greatly appreciate it.
> >> > >
> >> > > Thanks
> >> > >
> >> > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in message > >> > > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > Are you saying that you don't get the Open/Save dialog box
or you
> >> > > > do
> >> get
> >> > > it?
> >> > > > It seems that you don't get it at all. I get it on my computer and
> >> > > > I
> >> > think
> >> > > > this is a browser issue. As I said earlier, I was able to turn > >> > > > enable/disable it using a PDF option. The second issue of
the > > toolbar
> >> > not
> >> > > > having the Save buttons could be a header issue. I'm not
> > knowledgeable
> >> > > about
> >> > > > HTML headers but it does make sense that the header tags can > >> > > > control
> >> > this.
> >> > > I
> >> > > > will have to research that tomorrow.
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Brian Bischof
> >> > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > Brian, Thanks for looking into this for me.
> >> > > > > I think you understand my problem. But just to be clear:
> >> > > > > When I click export button of a webviewer, it does open a popup
> >> window
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > loads excel, word, etc. into the window. But there's no

obvious
> > way
> >> to
> >> > > > save
> >> > > > > it to a local drive as a file (other than copy and paste)

And,
> > yes,
> >> > you
> >> > > > are
> >> > > > > right PDF is the only format with a toolbar that has "save as"
> > icon.
> >> > But
> >> > > I
> >> > > > > think it's part of PDF object embedded within a browser.
I also
> >> looked
> >> > > in
> >> > > > > browser settings to make it open "save as" dialog box,
but could
> > not
> >> > > find
> >> > > > > anything.
> >> > > > > But I begin to doubt that it is a browser issue like you
> > suggesting.
> >> I
> >> > > > think
> >> > > > > this behavior is controlled by HTTP header tags. I know

that > > there's
> >> a
> >> > > > > header tag content-type (or something like that) where you can
> >> specify
> >> > > > > ms-excel, ms-word, etc. And there's also "attachment;
filename="
> > tag
> >> > > where
> >> > > > > you can give file name and browser then will prompt you
to
save
> >> > > > > or
> >> > open
> >> > > > that
> >> > > > > file. So, I do think it's the way CR not providing the right HTTP
> >> > header
> >> > > > > tags for the popup is a root of the problem. So, I am

thinking
of
> >> > > > > intercepting CR rendered HTML and modifying it, but I haven't had
> >> any
> >> > > time
> >> > > > > to do anything serious like that, after all I am just

building
a
> >> demo
> >> > > app.
> >> > > > > Let me know if you find anything else, or if I am on the

right
> >> track.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thank you again for your input.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in
message
> >> > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > > Hmmm. I'm looking over all your posts. The first post
you had
> > last
> >> > > week
> >> > > > > said
> >> > > > > > that you couldn't get the Save As dialog box to open.
Instead,
> > it
> >> > > always
> >> > > > > > spawned a new window. Now it seems that when you are in the new
> >> > window
> >> > > > it
> >> > > > > > won't allow saving the data. I assume this is a direct

result
> >> > > > > > of
> >> not
> >> > > > being
> >> > > > > > able to solve the first problem. So here are my
comments. > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > First is that if the export button doesn't open the

Save/Open
> >> dialog
> >> > > > box,
> >> > > > > > then I think it's a browser issue. For example, at the

bottom
> >> > > > > > of
> >> the
> >> > > > > dialog
> >> > > > > > box is a checkbox telling whether it should prompt you

with > >> > > > > > this
> >> or
> >> > > not.
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > > played around with it for Excel and Word but this had no > >> > > > > > effect.
> > I
> >> > did
> >> > > > > find
> >> > > > > > out that I can change this with Adobe inside the Adobe
Internet
> >> > > > > preferences.
> >> > > > > > After fixing that I got the Open/Save box for PDFs again. I
> > looked
> >> > in
> >> > > > > > preferences for Excel/Word and couldn't find such an option.
> > Thus,
> >> > the
> >> > > > PDF
> >> > > > > > option makes me think that the browser is controlling this and
> > not
> >> > CR
> >> > > > XI.
> >> > > > > > Overall, I have the Open/Save dialog popping up for all

file
> > types
> >> > in
> >> > > my
> >> > > > > > brower and you should be able to get them too.
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Re the Excel and Word browsers not letting you save
data, this
> > is
> >> > > > > happening
> >> > > > > > with my computer as well. However, again I have to

question if
> >> this
> >> > is
> >> > > a
> >> > > > > > browser issue or a CR XI issue since XI is just sending the XLS
> >> file
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > browser. I'll continue to play with it b/c I don't know the > > answer
> >> > to
> >> > > > this
> >> > > > > > one yet. But I think your best bet is to look at the first > >> > > > > > issue
> >> and
> >> > > get
> >> > > > > the
> >> > > > > > Open/Save dialog box to pop up by tweaking the IE settings. > >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > HTH,
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > Brian Bischof
> >> > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > >
> >> > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> wrote in > > message
> >> > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > > > Those are good points. Let me look into the export

problem
of
> >> not
> >> > > > saving
> >> > > > > > to
> >> > > > > > > disk and see if I can get you an answer.
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > Brian
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > > > > >The best practice is to use the
> >> > > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
> >> WebServices).
> >> > > Try
> >> > > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > > post the results here.
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > ReportDocument did work for me for postback problems. But
I
> >> also
> >> > > > have
> >> > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > > button that exports report to excel and then sends this > >> > > > > > > > file
> >> to
> >> > a
> >> > > > > client
> >> > > > > > > > through HTTP. I could not get that to work with one
> >> > parameterized
> >> > > > > > report.
> >> > > > > > > > Parameters don't seem to get cached with

reportdocument.
I
> >> tried
> >> > > my
> >> > > > > > > > different things, like caching actuall ParamFields
object,
> >> etc.
> >> > > but
> >> > > > > > > nothing
> >> > > > > > > > seems to work.
> >> > > > > > > > I need this button because export in Crystal webviewer > >> > > > > > > > opens
> > a
> >> > > popup
> >> > > > > > > window
> >> > > > > > > > with no toolbars, so users can't save it to a file. If
I
> > could
> >> > > find
> >> > > > > > > > workaround that, there would not be a need for this
custom
> >> > export
> >> > > > > > button.
> >> > > > > > > My
> >> > > > > > > > biggest problem with Crystal right now is very
simple but
> > yet
> >> > > > > important
> >> > > > > > > > things take so much time effort to do that it
becomes > >> > questionanle
> >> > > > if
> >> > > > > > it's
> >> > > > > > > > all worth it. And default behavior of Crystal is just > > bizarre
> >> > like
> >> > > > > > opening
> >> > > > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > > popup with no toolbars when exporting to another

format,
so
> >> file
> >> > > > can't
> >> > > > > > be
> >> > > > > > > > "save as"
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof" <Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com>

wrote
in
> >> > message
> >> > > > > > > > news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > > > > > I agree about the confusing API. Have you seen my
> >> > > > > > > > > existing
> >> > book,
> >> > > > > > > "Crystal
> >> > > > > > > > > Reports .NET Programming"? It teaches you how to

use the
> >> .NET
> >> > > > object
> >> > > > > > > model
> >> > > > > > > > > and has many tips and tricks for getting it to work. > > Anyway,
> >> > it
> >> > > > only
> >> > > > > > > > touches
> >> > > > > > > > > on the RAS and RDC programming a bit (I don't know if
> > using
> >> > that
> >> > > > or
> >> > > > > > > not).
> >> > > > > > > > > I'm going to do another book which is hardcore
RAS > >> programming
> >> > > > > because
> >> > > > > > > RAS
> >> > > > > > > > > is extremely complicated to learn and program
with.. But
> >> that
> >> > > > won't
> >> > > > > be
> >> > > > > > > > till
> >> > > > > > > > > after I finish the CR XI book I'm working on now.
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Anyway, to answer your question, the mistake most
people
> >> make
> >> > is
> >> > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > they
> >> > > > > > > > > mix up the viewer object model with the report object > > model.
> >> > > They
> >> > > > > set
> >> > > > > > > some
> >> > > > > > > > > properties using one object and set other properties > >> > > > > > > > > using
> >> the
> >> > > > other
> >> > > > > > > > object
> >> > > > > > > > > model. Then they get consfused when some of the
> >> > > > > > > > > properties
> >> get
> >> > > > > > dropped.
> >> > > > > > > > You
> >> > > > > > > > > can only use ONE object model at a time. The best
> >> > > > > > > > > practice
> >> is
> >> > to
> >> > > > use
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > ReportDocument object model (unless working with
> >> WebServices).
> >> > > Try
> >> > > > > > that
> >> > > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > > post the results here.
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> >> > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > > > > > > news:eS**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > > > > > > Ok, I did change it to ReportDocument , and that worked
> >> for
> >> > me
> >> > > > > even
> >> > > > > > > > > without
> >> > > > > > > > > > saving it to Session Variable. But now I am having > > another
> >> > > > problem
> >> > > > > > > with
> >> > > > > > > > > > exporting. I have another button that export report to
> >> excel
> >> > > and
> >> > > > > > sends
> >> > > > > > > a
> >> > > > > > > > > > file to a client, so now one parameterized report > > doesn't
> >> > > work.
> >> > > > I
> >> > > > > > > tried
> >> > > > > > > > > > saving reportDoc and it ParameterFields to session and
> >> > > > retrieving,
> >> > > > > > but
> >> > > > > > > > > > nothing works.
> >> > > > > > > > > > I think CR is a very good product, very sharp

looking
> >> > reports
> >> > > > > (when
> >> > > > > > > you
> >> > > > > > > > > get
> >> > > > > > > > > > them to work), very slick designer especially

version
> > XI.
> >> > But
> >> > > > > their
> >> > > > > > > API
> >> > > > > > > > > and
> >> > > > > > > > > > object hierarchy is terribly confusing and
inconsistent
> >> with
> >> > > > what
> >> > > > > > one
> >> > > > > > > > > would
> >> > > > > > > > > > expect from .NET friendly product, I haven't seen any
> > good
> >> > > > > > > documentation
> >> > > > > > > > > on
> >> > > > > > > > > > their APIs.
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > > > > > > > news:ez**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Brian, I am not using ReportDocument object,
I am > >> setting
> >> > > > > viewers
> >> > > > > > > > > > > ReportSource to a report file directly:
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > crViewer.ReportSource = Server.MapPath("Reports/"
&
> >> > > > reportName)
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > What should I do in this case?
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > "Brian Bischof"

<Br***@NoSpamBischofSystems.com> > >> > > > > > > > > > > wrote
> >> in
> >> > > > > message
> >> > > > > > > > > > > news:eQ*************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > You have to cache the report object. Save
the > >> > > > > > > > > > > > report
> >> > > object
> >> > > > to
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > Session()
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > collection and then restore it upon page

refresh
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > (be
> >> > sure
> >> > > to
> >> > > > > > > > explicity
> >> > > > > > > > > > > cast
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > it as a ReportDocument). ASP.NET reports do

all > > kinds
> >> of
> >> > > > funny
> >> > > > > > > > things
> >> > > > > > > > > if
> >> > > > > > > > > > > you
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > don't save them between page refreshes.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > HTH,
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > Brian Bischof
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > www.CrystalReportsBook.com
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > "LP" <lp@a.com> wrote in message
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > news:Og**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl... > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > I am using (trying to) CR version XI,

cascading
> >> > > parameters
> >> > > > > > > feature
> >> > > > > > > > > > works
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > asks user to enter params. But if page is
> >> resubmitted.
> >> > > It
> >> > > > > > > prompts
> >> > > > > > > > > for
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > params
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > again. I did set
> >> ReuseParameterValuesOnRefresh="True"
> >> > in
> >> > > a
> >> > > > > > > viewer,
> >> > > > > > > > > but
> >> > > > > > > > > > > it
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > still doesn't work. Did anyone run into this > >> problem.
> >> > > > What's
> >> > > > > > the
> >> > > > > > > > > > > solution?
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help.
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you
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