It has been a while since I have had to use VS2003 to create asp.net apps.
I had forgotten what a terrible HTML editor it is. I have turned off all
reformating but cannot get it to stop changing things like the accept
attribute for a INPUT type=file.
Every time I make a change it take the double quotes away and I have to
recompile. Is there any way other than using notepad to make changes to
actually use VS?
It also does not respect my settings to open the page in HTML rather than
the designer. What a piece of crap, by far and away the worst editor of any
kind I have ever had to use. I spend more time fighting with the editor
than getting things done.
With the settings to not reformat one would think that simply opening the
page would not cause reformatting. But this is not the case. Open a page
and it opens as changed. I have seen many posts as to the problems MS has
in this editor but no solutions.
Lloyd Sheen
6  1161 
The next version will play nice. i found that if you have
MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" in your body tag, vs.net is much worse..so take
it out :)
karl
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials http://www.openmymind.net/
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:NH****************@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... It has been a while since I have had to use VS2003 to create asp.net apps.
I had forgotten what a terrible HTML editor it is. I have turned off all
reformating but cannot get it to stop changing things like the accept
attribute for a INPUT type=file.
Every time I make a change it take the double quotes away and I have to
recompile. Is there any way other than using notepad to make changes to
actually use VS?
It also does not respect my settings to open the page in HTML rather than
the designer. What a piece of crap, by far and away the worst editor of
any kind I have ever had to use. I spend more time fighting with the editor
than getting things done.
With the settings to not reformat one would think that simply opening the
page would not cause reformatting. But this is not the case. Open a page
and it opens as changed. I have seen many posts as to the problems MS has
in this editor but no solutions.
Lloyd Sheen
I am using flow so no problem there. Since the next is long off it would
seem to me that MS if they have any reguard for those who use their tools
would provide a patch. I have been an MS developer for 12 years and this
IDE is the absolute worst product from them I have ever seen. And no that
the promised new products are a way off I think they should fix some of
these absolute failures.
I tried the express version of web development but it is so buggy that it is
impossible to use. Make a change and then all of a sudden a randomly named
..vb file will show errors that were only created in the MS mind.
Lloyd Sheen
"Karl" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> wrote in
message news:OB**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... The next version will play nice. i found that if you have
MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" in your body tag, vs.net is much worse..so
take
it out :)
karl
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
message
news:NH****************@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... It has been a while since I have had to use VS2003 to create asp.net
apps.
I had forgotten what a terrible HTML editor it is. I have turned off all
reformating but cannot get it to stop changing things like the accept
attribute for a INPUT type=file.
Every time I make a change it take the double quotes away and I have to
recompile. Is there any way other than using notepad to make changes to
actually use VS?
It also does not respect my settings to open the page in HTML rather than
the designer. What a piece of crap, by far and away the worst editor of
any kind I have ever had to use. I spend more time fighting with the editor
than getting things done.
With the settings to not reformat one would think that simply opening the
page would not cause reformatting. But this is not the case. Open a
page
and it opens as changed. I have seen many posts as to the problems MS
has
in this editor but no solutions.
Lloyd Sheen
And this one stupid problem about doubles the development time. I guess QA
at MS is NWTBF.
Lloyd Sheen
"Karl" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> wrote in
message news:OB**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... The next version will play nice. i found that if you have
MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" in your body tag, vs.net is much worse..so
take
it out :)
karl
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
message
news:NH****************@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... It has been a while since I have had to use VS2003 to create asp.net
apps.
I had forgotten what a terrible HTML editor it is. I have turned off all
reformating but cannot get it to stop changing things like the accept
attribute for a INPUT type=file.
Every time I make a change it take the double quotes away and I have to
recompile. Is there any way other than using notepad to make changes to
actually use VS?
It also does not respect my settings to open the page in HTML rather than
the designer. What a piece of crap, by far and away the worst editor of
any kind I have ever had to use. I spend more time fighting with the editor
than getting things done.
With the settings to not reformat one would think that simply opening the
page would not cause reformatting. But this is not the case. Open a
page
and it opens as changed. I have seen many posts as to the problems MS
has
in this editor but no solutions.
Lloyd Sheen
Just do what the rest of us do and never switch to design view :) there's
been a lot of complaining about this, and MS has acknowledged it, but there
will be no fix...
Karl
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials http://www.openmymind.net/
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:z%*******************@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com... And this one stupid problem about doubles the development time. I guess
QA at MS is NWTBF.
Lloyd Sheen
"Karl" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> wrote in
message news:OB**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... The next version will play nice. i found that if you have
MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" in your body tag, vs.net is much worse..so
take
it out :)
karl
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
message
news:NH****************@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com... It has been a while since I have had to use VS2003 to create asp.net
apps.
I had forgotten what a terrible HTML editor it is. I have turned off
all reformating but cannot get it to stop changing things like the accept
attribute for a INPUT type=file.
Every time I make a change it take the double quotes away and I have to
recompile. Is there any way other than using notepad to make changes
to actually use VS?
It also does not respect my settings to open the page in HTML rather
than the designer. What a piece of crap, by far and away the worst editor
of any kind I have ever had to use. I spend more time fighting with the
editor than getting things done.
With the settings to not reformat one would think that simply opening
the page would not cause reformatting. But this is not the case. Open a
page
and it opens as changed. I have seen many posts as to the problems MS
has
in this editor but no solutions.
Lloyd Sheen
Oh there will be a fix.
VS.NET 2005 will be much better behaved in this way.
--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP http://Steve.Orr.net
"Karl" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> wrote in
message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... Just do what the rest of us do and never switch to design view :) there's
been a lot of complaining about this, and MS has acknowledged it, but
there
will be no fix...
Karl
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
message
news:z%*******************@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com... And this one stupid problem about doubles the development time. I guess
QA at MS is NWTBF.
Lloyd Sheen
"Karl" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> wrote in
message news:OB**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > The next version will play nice. i found that if you have
> MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" in your body tag, vs.net is much worse..so
> take
> it out :)
>
> karl
>
> --
> MY ASP.Net tutorials
> http://www.openmymind.net/
>
>
> "Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:NH****************@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com...
>> It has been a while since I have had to use VS2003 to create asp.net
>> apps.
>> I had forgotten what a terrible HTML editor it is. I have turned off all >> reformating but cannot get it to stop changing things like the accept
>> attribute for a INPUT type=file.
>>
>> Every time I make a change it take the double quotes away and I have
>> to
>> recompile. Is there any way other than using notepad to make changes to >> actually use VS?
>>
>> It also does not respect my settings to open the page in HTML rather than >> the designer. What a piece of crap, by far and away the worst editor of > any
>> kind I have ever had to use. I spend more time fighting with the editor >> than getting things done.
>>
>> With the settings to not reformat one would think that simply opening the >> page would not cause reformatting. But this is not the case. Open a
>> page
>> and it opens as changed. I have seen many posts as to the problems MS
>> has
>> in this editor but no solutions.
>>
>> Lloyd Sheen
>>
>>
>
>
I said that in my 1st post ;)
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials http://www.openmymind.net/
"Steve C. Orr [MVP, MCSD]" <St***@Orr.net> wrote in message
news:es**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... Oh there will be a fix.
VS.NET 2005 will be much better behaved in this way.
--
I hope this helps,
Steve C. Orr, MCSD, MVP
http://Steve.Orr.net
"Karl" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> wrote in
message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl... Just do what the rest of us do and never switch to design view :)
there's been a lot of complaining about this, and MS has acknowledged it, but
there
will be no fix...
Karl
--
MY ASP.Net tutorials
http://www.openmymind.net/
"Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
message
news:z%*******************@twister01.bloor.is.net. cable.rogers.com... And this one stupid problem about doubles the development time. I
guess QA at MS is NWTBF.
Lloyd Sheen
"Karl" <karl REMOVE @ REMOVE openmymind REMOVEMETOO . ANDME net> wrote
in message news:OB**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> The next version will play nice. i found that if you have
> MS_POSITIONING="GridLayout" in your body tag, vs.net is much
worse..so > take
> it out :)
>
> karl
>
> --
> MY ASP.Net tutorials
> http://www.openmymind.net/
>
>
> "Lloyd Sheen" <sq*******************@tostopspamhotmail.com> wrote in
> message
> news:NH****************@news04.bloor.is.net.cable. rogers.com...
>> It has been a while since I have had to use VS2003 to create asp.net
>> apps.
>> I had forgotten what a terrible HTML editor it is. I have turned
off all >> reformating but cannot get it to stop changing things like the
accept >> attribute for a INPUT type=file.
>>
>> Every time I make a change it take the double quotes away and I have
>> to
>> recompile. Is there any way other than using notepad to make
changes to >> actually use VS?
>>
>> It also does not respect my settings to open the page in HTML rather
than >> the designer. What a piece of crap, by far and away the worst
editor of > any
>> kind I have ever had to use. I spend more time fighting with the
editor >> than getting things done.
>>
>> With the settings to not reformat one would think that simply
opening the >> page would not cause reformatting. But this is not the case. Open
a >> page
>> and it opens as changed. I have seen many posts as to the problems
MS >> has
>> in this editor but no solutions.
>>
>> Lloyd Sheen
>>
>>
>
>
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