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.Net Framework 2.0

Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I need to
use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a production
environment. When the final version is release will i be able to upgrade it
or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems that this
might cause?

Thanks,

Aaron
Nov 18 '05 #1
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that's absolutely crazy! for want of a better word.

a production environment is sacred ground. until you know exactly how well
the software will behave, it should not make it into production. that's what
testing environments are for. nuff said.

--
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Alvin Bruney
[ASP.NET MVP http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx]
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"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I need to
use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a
production
environment. When the final version is release will i be able to upgrade
it
or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems that this
might cause?

Thanks,

Aaron

Nov 18 '05 #2
Apart from other considerations, you should check the license agreement
which forbids production use:

"there is no "Go Live" license for this beta release, so your use of this
beta is limited to testing and evaluation only."

http://lab.msdn.microsoft.com/vs2005...e/default.aspx
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I need to
use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a
production
environment. When the final version is release will i be able to upgrade
it
or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems that this
might cause?

Thanks,

Aaron


Nov 18 '05 #3
The license doesn't allow you to do that. It's also in BETA and it's pretty
much universally accepted (from everyone I talk to) that doing anything to
the production server that doesn't need to be done, particularly running
Betas and alphas on them, is suicide.

--
W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded

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"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I need to
use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a production environment. When the final version is release will i be able to upgrade it or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems that this
might cause?

Thanks,

Aaron

Nov 18 '05 #4
can I buy a license to allow me to use it in a production environment? I
need some of the new features.

Thanks

"William Ryan eMVP" <do********@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:O6**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
The license doesn't allow you to do that. It's also in BETA and it's pretty much universally accepted (from everyone I talk to) that doing anything to
the production server that doesn't need to be done, particularly running
Betas and alphas on them, is suicide.

--
W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded

Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded newsgroups?
Let Microsoft know!
https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/...ity/newsgroups
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I need to use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a

production
environment. When the final version is release will i be able to upgrade

it
or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems that this might cause?

Thanks,

Aaron


Nov 18 '05 #5
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
can I buy a license to allow me to use it in a production environment? I
need some of the new features.
You don't want to use it in production. It's a BETA.

It doesn't have new features. It's a BETA. It has proposed new features
which may or may not work today, and which may or may not wind up in the
eventual product.

If you "need some of the new features", and if you can't wait until next
year, then you need to start thinking of some way to get the "new
features" - Beta 1 isn't it.
--
John Saunders
johnwsaundersiii at hotmail

"William Ryan eMVP" <do********@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:O6**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
The license doesn't allow you to do that. It's also in BETA and it's pretty
much universally accepted (from everyone I talk to) that doing anything to
the production server that doesn't need to be done, particularly running
Betas and alphas on them, is suicide.

--
W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded

Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded newsgroups?
Let Microsoft know!
https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/...ity/newsgroups
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I
need to use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a

production
environment. When the final version is release will i be able to
upgrade it
or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems that

this might cause?

Thanks,

Aaron



Nov 18 '05 #6
What features do you need? You might be able to buy or build them.

"John Saunders" <jo**************@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
can I buy a license to allow me to use it in a production environment? I
need some of the new features.


Nov 18 '05 #7
From what I hear form Microsoft, this is now in beta 1 and is much more
stable than the previous versions, which were not even beta, all the
features in the beta will make it to the final version (99.9% sure of this)

One person from MS even suggested that you could even use on your production
env as the .NET framework works well side by side, I am going to backup my
laptop and try this. offcourse, you should never put any beta software on
your production env, but...... some experienced people can ovoid the pit
falls, I have been stung once for running beta on a production env, but
that's once in 10years.

remember, beta is much more stable than previews or alphas the last VS was
alpha/preview, even I wouldent let these near a production env.

Steve
"John Saunders" <jo**************@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
can I buy a license to allow me to use it in a production environment? I
need some of the new features.
You don't want to use it in production. It's a BETA.

It doesn't have new features. It's a BETA. It has proposed new features
which may or may not work today, and which may or may not wind up in the
eventual product.

If you "need some of the new features", and if you can't wait until next
year, then you need to start thinking of some way to get the "new
features" - Beta 1 isn't it.
--
John Saunders
johnwsaundersiii at hotmail

"William Ryan eMVP" <do********@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
news:O6**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
The license doesn't allow you to do that. It's also in BETA and it's

pretty
much universally accepted (from everyone I talk to) that doing anything to
the production server that doesn't need to be done, particularly
running Betas and alphas on them, is suicide.

--
W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded

Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded newsgroups?
Let Microsoft know!
https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/...ity/newsgroups
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I

need
to
> use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a
production
> environment. When the final version is release will i be able to

upgrade it
> or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems that

this
> might cause?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Aaron
>
>



Nov 18 '05 #8
"Steve Drake" <Steve@_NOSPAM_.Drakey.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uN*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
From what I hear form Microsoft, this is now in beta 1 and is much more
stable than the previous versions, which were not even beta, all the
features in the beta will make it to the final version (99.9% sure of this)
One person from MS even suggested that you could even use on your production env as the .NET framework works well side by side, I am going to backup my
laptop and try this. offcourse, you should never put any beta software on
your production env, but...... some experienced people can ovoid the pit
falls, I have been stung once for running beta on a production env, but
that's once in 10years.
Beware of side-by-side installations. A "side-by-side" installation of
Framework 1.1 on a 1.0 production system screwed things up royally.
remember, beta is much more stable than previews or alphas the last VS was
alpha/preview, even I wouldent let these near a production env.


--
John Saunders
johnwsaundersiii at hotmail
Nov 18 '05 #9
Microsoft definitely does not recommend installing pre-release bits on
production machines. Although it *should* not mess anything up, the
possibility of problems just isn't worth it, especially considering how the
installation of pre-release software on a machine voids technical support
for that machine.

"Steve Drake" <Steve@_NOSPAM_.Drakey.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uN*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
From what I hear form Microsoft, this is now in beta 1 and is much more
stable than the previous versions, which were not even beta, all the
features in the beta will make it to the final version (99.9% sure of
this)

One person from MS even suggested that you could even use on your
production
env as the .NET framework works well side by side, I am going to backup my
laptop and try this. offcourse, you should never put any beta software on
your production env, but...... some experienced people can ovoid the pit
falls, I have been stung once for running beta on a production env, but
that's once in 10years.

remember, beta is much more stable than previews or alphas the last VS was
alpha/preview, even I wouldent let these near a production env.

Steve
"John Saunders" <jo**************@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> can I buy a license to allow me to use it in a production environment?
> I
> need some of the new features.


You don't want to use it in production. It's a BETA.

It doesn't have new features. It's a BETA. It has proposed new features
which may or may not work today, and which may or may not wind up in the
eventual product.

If you "need some of the new features", and if you can't wait until next
year, then you need to start thinking of some way to get the "new
features" - Beta 1 isn't it.
--
John Saunders
johnwsaundersiii at hotmail

> "William Ryan eMVP" <do********@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:O6**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > The license doesn't allow you to do that. It's also in BETA and it's
> pretty
> > much universally accepted (from everyone I talk to) that doing anything
to
> > the production server that doesn't need to be done, particularly

running > > Betas and alphas on them, is suicide.
> >
> > --
> > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
> >
> > Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded
> > newsgroups?
> > Let Microsoft know!
> > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/...ity/newsgroups
> > "Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I

need
> to
> > > use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a
> > production
> > > environment. When the final version is release will i be able to

upgrade
> > it
> > > or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems
> > > that
> this
> > > might cause?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Nov 18 '05 #10
When i think production machine, I think of my pc, as I produce code, if I
got a problem and I suspected that it was due to installing beta software
then I understand that I have to rebuild from scratch, which I am getting
good at as I have a base build as a ghost image with all my settings ect.

The person from MS was really talking about running in on a dev box.

Steve

"Ed Kaim [MSFT]" <ed****@online.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:OG**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Microsoft definitely does not recommend installing pre-release bits on
production machines. Although it *should* not mess anything up, the
possibility of problems just isn't worth it, especially considering how the installation of pre-release software on a machine voids technical support
for that machine.

"Steve Drake" <Steve@_NOSPAM_.Drakey.co.uk> wrote in message
news:uN*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
From what I hear form Microsoft, this is now in beta 1 and is much more
stable than the previous versions, which were not even beta, all the
features in the beta will make it to the final version (99.9% sure of
this)

One person from MS even suggested that you could even use on your
production
env as the .NET framework works well side by side, I am going to backup my laptop and try this. offcourse, you should never put any beta software on your production env, but...... some experienced people can ovoid the pit
falls, I have been stung once for running beta on a production env, but
that's once in 10years.

remember, beta is much more stable than previews or alphas the last VS was alpha/preview, even I wouldent let these near a production env.

Steve
"John Saunders" <jo**************@notcoldmail.com> wrote in message
news:uC**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
"Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:OW**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> can I buy a license to allow me to use it in a production environment? > I
> need some of the new features.

You don't want to use it in production. It's a BETA.

It doesn't have new features. It's a BETA. It has proposed new features
which may or may not work today, and which may or may not wind up in the eventual product.

If you "need some of the new features", and if you can't wait until next year, then you need to start thinking of some way to get the "new
features" - Beta 1 isn't it.
--
John Saunders
johnwsaundersiii at hotmail
> "William Ryan eMVP" <do********@comcast.nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:O6**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > The license doesn't allow you to do that. It's also in BETA and it's > pretty
> > much universally accepted (from everyone I talk to) that doing

anything
to
> > the production server that doesn't need to be done, particularly

running
> > Betas and alphas on them, is suicide.
> >
> > --
> > W.G. Ryan MVP Windows - Embedded
> >
> > Have an opinion on the effectiveness of Microsoft Embedded
> > newsgroups?
> > Let Microsoft know!
> > https://www.windowsembeddedeval.com/...ity/newsgroups
> > "Aaron" <ku*****@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
> > > Should I install .NET framework 2.0 on my production web server, I need
> to
> > > use some of its new features? It seeems stable enough to run in a
> > production
> > > environment. When the final version is release will i be able to
upgrade
> > it
> > > or do i have to reinstall windows? What are some other problems
> > > that
> this
> > > might cause?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Aaron
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



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