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I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these pages look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that allows to you edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out running the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage. Thank you

Devin
Nov 18 '05 #1
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You could add a CSS style sheet to your project and reference this
stylesheet from within your page. By updating the style sheet, you'll be
able to change the HTML appearence (if this is what you are looking after).

Patrice

"Devin" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> a écrit dans le message de
news:86**********************************@microsof t.com...
I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these pages
look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that allows to you
edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out running
the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage. Thank you
Devin

Nov 18 '05 #2

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Macromedia Dreamweaver

-John Oakes

"Devin" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:86**********************************@microsof t.com...
I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these pages
look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that allows to you
edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out running
the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage. Thank you
Devin

Nov 18 '05 #3

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Visual Studio

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"Devin" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:86**********************************@microsof t.com...
I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these pages
look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that allows to you
edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out running
the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage. Thank you
Devin

Nov 18 '05 #4

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He asked for something that won't lose your code. If you are using Visual
Studio 2002 and you don't have the "Data Loss Fix" installed, you can very
well lose your code:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/do...talossifx.aspx

Even if you have the update installed or you are using 2003, VS will still
modify your HTML. If you turn off every option to modify your code in
Tools -> Options, it will still modify some HTML.

Overall, VS is not better than Web Matrix when it comes to page design.
Neither one are good.

-John Oakes
"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:Ok****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Visual Studio

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"Devin" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:86**********************************@microsof t.com...
I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these pages
look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that allows to

you edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out running
the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage. Thank you

Devin


Nov 18 '05 #5

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nothing, not even DW is 100% perfect.

If you are that worried, use a plain text editor and even that will "mess
things up" if you dont make adjustments (like word wrap).
What I'm getting at is that if you use the tools carefully they will work.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"John Oakes" <jo**@nospam.networkproductions.net> wrote in message
news:eP*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
He asked for something that won't lose your code. If you are using Visual
Studio 2002 and you don't have the "Data Loss Fix" installed, you can very
well lose your code:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/do...talossifx.aspx

Even if you have the update installed or you are using 2003, VS will still
modify your HTML. If you turn off every option to modify your code in
Tools -> Options, it will still modify some HTML.

Overall, VS is not better than Web Matrix when it comes to page design.
Neither one are good.

-John Oakes
"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:Ok****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Visual Studio

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"Devin" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:86**********************************@microsof t.com...
I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one

functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these pages
look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that allows to

you
edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out running
the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage. Thank

you

Devin



Nov 18 '05 #6

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I agree no tool is perfect; personally I use Homesite which is text based,
or notepad. However, I assumed from his post he was looking for a tool to
assist him in design, and I don't think VS would do that. Just my opinion
of course.

-John Oakes

"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:eR**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
nothing, not even DW is 100% perfect.

If you are that worried, use a plain text editor and even that will "mess
things up" if you dont make adjustments (like word wrap).
What I'm getting at is that if you use the tools carefully they will work.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"John Oakes" <jo**@nospam.networkproductions.net> wrote in message
news:eP*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
He asked for something that won't lose your code. If you are using Visual
Studio 2002 and you don't have the "Data Loss Fix" installed, you can very well lose your code:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/do...talossifx.aspx

Even if you have the update installed or you are using 2003, VS will still modify your HTML. If you turn off every option to modify your code in
Tools -> Options, it will still modify some HTML.

Overall, VS is not better than Web Matrix when it comes to page design.
Neither one are good.

-John Oakes
"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:Ok****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Visual Studio

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"Devin" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:86**********************************@microsof t.com...
> I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one
functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these pages look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that allows
to you
edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out

running the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage. Thank you >
> Devin



Nov 18 '05 #7

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It does have it's quirks, that's for sure. But after a short time using it
you learn them
Personally I almost never use the "design" view, only HTML and CODE. This
helps eliminate any chance of "altered code"

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"John Oakes" <jo**@nospam.networkproductions.net> wrote in message
news:OD**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
I agree no tool is perfect; personally I use Homesite which is text based,
or notepad. However, I assumed from his post he was looking for a tool to
assist him in design, and I don't think VS would do that. Just my opinion
of course.

-John Oakes

"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:eR**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
nothing, not even DW is 100% perfect.

If you are that worried, use a plain text editor and even that will "mess
things up" if you dont make adjustments (like word wrap).
What I'm getting at is that if you use the tools carefully they will work.
--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"John Oakes" <jo**@nospam.networkproductions.net> wrote in message
news:eP*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
He asked for something that won't lose your code. If you are using Visual Studio 2002 and you don't have the "Data Loss Fix" installed, you can very well lose your code:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/do...talossifx.aspx

Even if you have the update installed or you are using 2003, VS will still modify your HTML. If you turn off every option to modify your code in
Tools -> Options, it will still modify some HTML.

Overall, VS is not better than Web Matrix when it comes to page design. Neither one are good.

-John Oakes
"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:Ok****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Visual Studio
>
> --
> Curt Christianson
> Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
> Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
>
>
> "Devin" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:86**********************************@microsof t.com...
> > I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one
> functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these pages > look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that
allows
to you
> edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out

running
> the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage.

Thank you
> >
> > Devin
>
>



Nov 18 '05 #8

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I've tried to only use the HTML view. However, sometimes when I open a page
and it is in design view, it changes my HTML. I've had a particular problem
with the <OBJECT> tag. VS adds properties to the object tag that don't
really exist when I switch to design view. If I don't notice and hit debug,
it saves the change and actually breaks my app. Of course I immediately
know what happened and fix it, but it is very annoying. I've turned off all
of the options to auto format my code, etc., but the problem persists.

I have been using VS.NET since the release, and I still use. That has
nothing to do with the design capabilities of the program though.

-John Oakes
"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:OT**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
It does have it's quirks, that's for sure. But after a short time using it
you learn them
Personally I almost never use the "design" view, only HTML and CODE. This
helps eliminate any chance of "altered code"

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"John Oakes" <jo**@nospam.networkproductions.net> wrote in message
news:OD**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
I agree no tool is perfect; personally I use Homesite which is text based,
or notepad. However, I assumed from his post he was looking for a tool to assist him in design, and I don't think VS would do that. Just my opinion of course.

-John Oakes

"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:eR**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
nothing, not even DW is 100% perfect.

If you are that worried, use a plain text editor and even that will "mess things up" if you dont make adjustments (like word wrap).
What I'm getting at is that if you use the tools carefully they will work.
--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
"John Oakes" <jo**@nospam.networkproductions.net> wrote in message
news:eP*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> He asked for something that won't lose your code. If you are using

Visual
> Studio 2002 and you don't have the "Data Loss Fix" installed, you can very
> well lose your code:
>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/do...talossifx.aspx
>
> Even if you have the update installed or you are using 2003, VS will

still
> modify your HTML. If you turn off every option to modify your code
in > Tools -> Options, it will still modify some HTML.
>
> Overall, VS is not better than Web Matrix when it comes to page

design. > Neither one are good.
>
> -John Oakes
>
>
> "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
> news:Ok****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > Visual Studio
> >
> > --
> > Curt Christianson
> > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> > Site: http://www.Darkfalz.com
> > Blog: http://blog.Darkfalz.com
> >
> >
> > "Devin" <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:86**********************************@microsof t.com...
> > > I am using Microsoft WebMatrix to write my ASP.NEt pages, and one > > functionality that that seems to lack is the ability to make these

pages
> > look nice. Is there any program out there like Frontpage, that allows
to
> you
> > edit and be more flexible in your design of ASP.NET pages with out
running
> > the risk of losing your code like what can happen in Frontpage.

Thank you
> > >
> > > Devin
> >
> >
>
>



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