Web Site Style

[bclegg]

Hi,
I am a web newbie writing my first intranet web site using Webforms. I
remember when playing with Interdev it was possible to get a canned
style for your site, 'raygun' comes to mind.

Is there a similar thing for ASP.net?

The main thing I am after is stylish consistent hyperlinks (navigation
bars?) between the pages.
I intend to use an external CSS to provide the background, table look
and feel etc.

Thanks
Bob

[Kevin Spencer]

You can use CSS for all of your global layout if you wish.

--
HTH,
Kevin Spencer
..Net Developer
Microsoft MVP
Big things are made up
of lots of little things.

"bclegg" <bc****@adriley.co.nz> wrote in message
news:#u**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...

Hi,
I am a web newbie writing my first intranet web site using Webforms. I
remember when playing with Interdev it was possible to get a canned
style for your site, 'raygun' comes to mind.

Is there a similar thing for ASP.net?

The main thing I am after is stylish consistent hyperlinks (navigation
bars?) between the pages.
I intend to use an external CSS to provide the background, table look
and feel etc.

Thanks
Bob

[bclegg]

Hi Kevin,
Thanks for your reply.
My problem is that I am a vb.net programmer with virtually no web design
experience who has to put together a web site that looks at least
halfway professional.
The site will essentially update and display info from an SQL database
via a webservice.

I have managed to get the database editing functionality that I want by
using a vb.net webform that accesses the webservice.

I guess I am looking for guidelines as to what tools to use to easily
design up the look and feel of the web forms.

eg After my original posting I noticed that Frontpage seems powerful in
that it has themes and you can generate navigation bars based on those
themes. (If I can get it working but that's another story.)

But is it acceptable to do the form layout in frontpage and then code up
tables etc in code behind forms in vb.net or vice versa.

There seems to be a suprising lack of .net documentation on how to
design the layout of a web form. ie. Tell a newbie how to put in a
navigation bar and set themes or whatever.

Any general guidelines or info on books would be appreciated.
thanks
Bob
Kevin Spencer wrote:

You can use CSS for all of your global layout if you wish.

[Showjumper]

Designing a webform is just like building a straight html page. You just
ecapsulate you menu in a user control or however you are doing it. Also look
at Dreamweaver MX 2004 for a design tool.
"bclegg" <bc****@adriley.co.nz> wrote in message
news:eA**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...

Hi Kevin,
Thanks for your reply.
My problem is that I am a vb.net programmer with virtually no web design
experience who has to put together a web site that looks at least
halfway professional.
The site will essentially update and display info from an SQL database
via a webservice.

I have managed to get the database editing functionality that I want by
using a vb.net webform that accesses the webservice.

I guess I am looking for guidelines as to what tools to use to easily
design up the look and feel of the web forms.

eg After my original posting I noticed that Frontpage seems powerful in
that it has themes and you can generate navigation bars based on those
themes. (If I can get it working but that's another story.)

But is it acceptable to do the form layout in frontpage and then code up
tables etc in code behind forms in vb.net or vice versa.

There seems to be a suprising lack of .net documentation on how to
design the layout of a web form. ie. Tell a newbie how to put in a
navigation bar and set themes or whatever.

Any general guidelines or info on books would be appreciated.
thanks
Bob
Kevin Spencer wrote:

You can use CSS for all of your global layout if you wish.

[Steven Cheng[MSFT]]

Hi Bob,
Thank you for using MSDN Newsgroup! My name is Steven, and I'll be
assisting you on this issue.
From your description, you're looking for some guide on designing web page
layout and the user interface using VS.NET?
If there is anything I misunderstood, please feel free to let me know.

As for this problem, here is some of my suggestions:
Generally, the web page UI design is ought to be separated with the web
application's code logic. So as to the techniques or skills on how to
generate good looking web pages are common features not only concerned with
VS.NET but also many other web page design tools are capable of providing
such functionalites. For exmaple, the Frontpage as you mentioned, and also
the "DreamWeaver", Adobe's Golive .... All of these tools provides
different kinds of good features on web page's UI design. And the VS.NET
IDE tool is mainly a web application development tool which provide the
strong ability of design high performance web applciation with complex code
logic. Also, it also provide the UI designing functions and I always think
VS.NET is a very good page design tool since you can generate a simple page
and edit the html elements in it conveniently by its IDE's intelligent
sense. And it provides strong support for the clientside script such as
"javascript" 's edit support.
In addition, as for some particular design features such as generating a
navigation bar or menus. In ASP.NET we can encapsulate such web elements
into web controls, such as web server controls or web UserControl. For
detailed infos on ASP.NET web server controls or UserControls , you may
view the following web links in MSDN:

#Web Forms User Controls
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...ormsusercontro
ls.asp?frame=true

#Learn how to create Web user controls that handle login checking for your
..NET Web pages.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...asp?frame=true

#Web Server Controls
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...syntaxforwebco
ntrols.asp?frame=true

Also, there're also many third-party ASP.NET webcontrols , which may
provide some nice features you like. And I think www.asp.net is a good site
for learning many tech skills on developing ASP.NET web application. Here
is the navigation controls in its control gallery, you may found many good
navigation controls such as menu or toolbar ,treeviews there:

# Control Gallery > Navigation Controls
http://www.asp.net/ControlGallery/de...=12&tabindex=2
Further more, as for the common web page designing, I've also searched some
good web references which maybe helpful to you:

#Web page design references

http://www.wpdfd.com/

http://www.makoa.org/web-design.htm

#Web page design generic resource
http://www.pageresource.com/
Please check out the preceding suggestions. If you need any further
assistance, please feel free to post here.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
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rights.)

[bclegg]

Hi Steven,
Thanks for your reply and the links.
I shall follow up.
My thanks also to all the others who replied.
regards
Bob
Steven Cheng[MSFT] wrote:

Hi Bob,
Thank you for using MSDN Newsgroup! My name is Steven, and I'll be
assisting you on this issue.
From your description, you're looking for some guide on designing web page
layout and the user interface using VS.NET?
If there is anything I misunderstood, please feel free to let me know.

As for this problem, here is some of my suggestions:
Generally, the web page UI design is ought to be separated with the web
application's code logic. So as to the techniques or skills on how to
generate good looking web pages are common features not only concerned with
VS.NET but also many other web page design tools are capable of providing
such functionalites. For exmaple, the Frontpage as you mentioned, and also
the "DreamWeaver", Adobe's Golive .... All of these tools provides
different kinds of good features on web page's UI design. And the VS.NET
IDE tool is mainly a web application development tool which provide the
strong ability of design high performance web applciation with complex code
logic. Also, it also provide the UI designing functions and I always think
VS.NET is a very good page design tool since you can generate a simple page
and edit the html elements in it conveniently by its IDE's intelligent
sense. And it provides strong support for the clientside script such as
"javascript" 's edit support.
In addition, as for some particular design features such as generating a
navigation bar or menus. In ASP.NET we can encapsulate such web elements
into web controls, such as web server controls or web UserControl. For
detailed infos on ASP.NET web server controls or UserControls , you may
view the following web links in MSDN:

#Web Forms User Controls
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...ormsusercontro
ls.asp?frame=true

#Learn how to create Web user controls that handle login checking for your
NET Web pages.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...asp?frame=true

#Web Server Controls
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...syntaxforwebco
ntrols.asp?frame=true

Also, there're also many third-party ASP.NET webcontrols , which may
provide some nice features you like. And I think www.asp.net is a good site
for learning many tech skills on developing ASP.NET web application. Here
is the navigation controls in its control gallery, you may found many good
navigation controls such as menu or toolbar ,treeviews there:

# Control Gallery > Navigation Controls
http://www.asp.net/ControlGallery/de...=12&tabindex=2
Further more, as for the common web page designing, I've also searched some
good web references which maybe helpful to you:

#Web page design references

http://www.wpdfd.com/

http://www.makoa.org/web-design.htm

#Web page design generic resource
http://www.pageresource.com/
Please check out the preceding suggestions. If you need any further
assistance, please feel free to post here.

Regards,

Steven Cheng
Microsoft Online Support

Get Secure! www.microsoft.com/security
(This posting is provided "AS IS", with no warranties, and confers no
rights.)