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I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?

Jun 21 '06 #1
9 8268
the answer it's easy for the CR part.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 have the component for Crystal Reports under
ASP.NET, but this license is only for developer proposes, to have it under a
publishing server you need to buy a new license and as you can see under CR
website, does not have any limitation like the Developer license in the
VS2k5.

SQL Report Services is the same deal... under VS is only for developing...

Read more:
http://www.businessobjects.com/produ...ng.asp#webapps

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?

Jun 21 '06 #2
I know I read somewhere that Crystal can be used for up to a couple
users concurrently for web server purposes. Once you get past that
then you need to get Crystal Report Server. All of the documentation I
have read on RDLC and the reportviewer says nothing about having to get
a license for that.
As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

Bruno Alexandre wrote:
the answer it's easy for the CR part.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 have the component for Crystal Reports under
ASP.NET, but this license is only for developer proposes, to have it under a
publishing server you need to buy a new license and as you can see under CR
website, does not have any limitation like the Developer license in the
VS2k5.

SQL Report Services is the same deal... under VS is only for developing...

Read more:
http://www.businessobjects.com/produ...ng.asp#webapps

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?


Jun 21 '06 #3
still, you need SQL 2005 Server w/Report Service licenced in a server
machine to run it.

can't use the free MSDE :-(

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ i40g2000cwc.goo glegroups.com.. .
I know I read somewhere that Crystal can be used for up to a couple
users concurrently for web server purposes. Once you get past that
then you need to get Crystal Report Server. All of the documentation I
have read on RDLC and the reportviewer says nothing about having to get
a license for that.
As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

Bruno Alexandre wrote:
the answer it's easy for the CR part.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 have the component for Crystal Reports under
ASP.NET, but this license is only for developer proposes, to have it under
a
publishing server you need to buy a new license and as you can see under
CR
website, does not have any limitation like the Developer license in the
VS2k5.

SQL Report Services is the same deal... under VS is only for developing...

Read more:
http://www.businessobjects.com/produ...ng.asp#webapps

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?

Jun 21 '06 #4
I still use my reports in a standard HTML + CSS style, and they work great
:-) even in multiple pages (of course I need to calculate when do I want
page break, but still... pretty and clean ;-)

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ i40g2000cwc.goo glegroups.com.. .
I know I read somewhere that Crystal can be used for up to a couple
users concurrently for web server purposes. Once you get past that
then you need to get Crystal Report Server. All of the documentation I
have read on RDLC and the reportviewer says nothing about having to get
a license for that.
As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

Bruno Alexandre wrote:
the answer it's easy for the CR part.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 have the component for Crystal Reports under
ASP.NET, but this license is only for developer proposes, to have it under
a
publishing server you need to buy a new license and as you can see under
CR
website, does not have any limitation like the Developer license in the
VS2k5.

SQL Report Services is the same deal... under VS is only for developing...

Read more:
http://www.businessobjects.com/produ...ng.asp#webapps

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?

Jun 21 '06 #5
still, you need SQL 2005 Server w/Report Service licenced in a server
machine to run it.
To me it doesn't look like you do, as I stated in the previous message

As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

I have not seen anywhere stating that you must have SQL server but I
have seen almost everywhere saying that you do not need SQL server.
Yes you would need it if you use RDL, but I will be using RDLC.
Bruno Alexandre wrote:
still, you need SQL 2005 Server w/Report Service licenced in a server
machine to run it.

can't use the free MSDE :-(

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ i40g2000cwc.goo glegroups.com.. .
I know I read somewhere that Crystal can be used for up to a couple
users concurrently for web server purposes. Once you get past that
then you need to get Crystal Report Server. All of the documentation I
have read on RDLC and the reportviewer says nothing about having to get
a license for that.
As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

Bruno Alexandre wrote:
the answer it's easy for the CR part.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 have the component for Crystal Reports under
ASP.NET, but this license is only for developer proposes, to have it under
a
publishing server you need to buy a new license and as you can see under
CR
website, does not have any limitation like the Developer license in the
VS2k5.

SQL Report Services is the same deal... under VS is only for developing....

Read more:
http://www.businessobjects.com/produ...ng.asp#webapps

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?


Jun 21 '06 #6
I have done that in some cases but I need the capability to export to
pdf.
Bruno Alexandre wrote:
I still use my reports in a standard HTML + CSS style, and they work great
:-) even in multiple pages (of course I need to calculate when do I want
page break, but still... pretty and clean ;-)

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ i40g2000cwc.goo glegroups.com.. .
I know I read somewhere that Crystal can be used for up to a couple
users concurrently for web server purposes. Once you get past that
then you need to get Crystal Report Server. All of the documentation I
have read on RDLC and the reportviewer says nothing about having to get
a license for that.
As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

Bruno Alexandre wrote:
the answer it's easy for the CR part.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 have the component for Crystal Reports under
ASP.NET, but this license is only for developer proposes, to have it under
a
publishing server you need to buy a new license and as you can see under
CR
website, does not have any limitation like the Developer license in the
VS2k5.

SQL Report Services is the same deal... under VS is only for developing....

Read more:
http://www.businessobjects.com/produ...ng.asp#webapps

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?


Jun 21 '06 #7
but who runs the service??? right?

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
still, you need SQL 2005 Server w/Report Service licenced in a server
machine to run it.
To me it doesn't look like you do, as I stated in the previous message

As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

I have not seen anywhere stating that you must have SQL server but I
have seen almost everywhere saying that you do not need SQL server.
Yes you would need it if you use RDL, but I will be using RDLC.
Bruno Alexandre wrote:
still, you need SQL 2005 Server w/Report Service licenced in a server
machine to run it.

can't use the free MSDE :-(

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ i40g2000cwc.goo glegroups.com.. .
I know I read somewhere that Crystal can be used for up to a couple
users concurrently for web server purposes. Once you get past that
then you need to get Crystal Report Server. All of the documentation I
have read on RDLC and the reportviewer says nothing about having to get
a license for that.
As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

Bruno Alexandre wrote:
the answer it's easy for the CR part.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 have the component for Crystal Reports
under
ASP.NET, but this license is only for developer proposes, to have it
under
a
publishing server you need to buy a new license and as you can see under
CR
website, does not have any limitation like the Developer license in the
VS2k5.

SQL Report Services is the same deal... under VS is only for
developing...

Read more:
http://www.businessobjects.com/produ...ng.asp#webapps

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how
fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all
at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?

Jun 21 '06 #8
NH
you do not need a SQL licence to use the ReportViewer control. You dont need
Reporting services to use it either. YOu feed datasets to the control and
that is how the report is built.

"Bruno Alexandre" wrote:
I still use my reports in a standard HTML + CSS style, and they work great
:-) even in multiple pages (of course I need to calculate when do I want
page break, but still... pretty and clean ;-)

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ i40g2000cwc.goo glegroups.com.. .
I know I read somewhere that Crystal can be used for up to a couple
users concurrently for web server purposes. Once you get past that
then you need to get Crystal Report Server. All of the documentation I
have read on RDLC and the reportviewer says nothing about having to get
a license for that.
As quoted from http://www.gotreportviewer.com/

# Q: Is a SQL Server license required to use the ReportViewer control?

A: No. The ReportViewer control is freely redistributable . It can work
independently of SQL Server ('local mode') and a SQL Server license is
not required. In remote mode the ReportViewer control talks to a Report
Server. The Report Server does require a SQL Server license.

Bruno Alexandre wrote:
the answer it's easy for the CR part.

Microsoft Visual Studio 2005 have the component for Crystal Reports under
ASP.NET, but this license is only for developer proposes, to have it under
a
publishing server you need to buy a new license and as you can see under
CR
website, does not have any limitation like the Developer license in the
VS2k5.

SQL Report Services is the same deal... under VS is only for developing...

Read more:
http://www.businessobjects.com/produ...ng.asp#webapps

--

Bruno Alexandre
(a Portuguese in Københanv, Danmark)
"Altman" <ba*****@easy-automation.com> escreveu na mensagem
news:11******** **************@ g10g2000cwb.goo glegroups.com.. .
I am currently using ASP.Net 2003 and will be upgrading to 2005
sometime in the near future. I have been having issues with using
Crystal Reports that were included with .Net to handle my reporting
needs. I was wondering if anybody has an opinion on how the new
reportViewer control works in comparison to Crystal. One of the main
problems I have been having with Crystal Reports is that they seem to
load very slow no matter how small the report is and no matter how fast
the server is. I also have been having a problem (and I think this is
a Crystal bug) with creating the report to work with lets say the pubs
database. Then when I transfer to a different machine and want to use
a different database name pubsTest, the report fails. The application
that we are writing will have about 50 -100 people using it (not all at
once). One of my concerns with crystal was that I believe it has a
limit on how many people can run reports. Is this the case with RDLC?
Are RDLC faster? More reliable? Easy to use?


Jun 21 '06 #9
dgk
On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:28:30 +0200, "Bruno Alexandre"
<br*********@gm ail.com> wrote:
but who runs the service??? right?


A reportviewer control with ProcessingMode set to Local (which is what
RDLC means - C is Client) runs on the local PC and does not need SQL
Server. If ProcessingMode is set to Remote then it is running a report
that is part of SQLServer Reporting Services (an RDL report) and that
server must be running SQL Server.

In local mode, the programmer supplies the data to the report as
needed, with subreports requiring an event handler to supply the data.
That data can come from a local or remote database of any kind since
you can pass in business objects as easily as a datatable. Local mode
is limited to only being able to output the report as PDF or Excel.

I did this in a Windows project but I think it works the same way in a
web page.
Jun 22 '06 #10

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Overview: Windows 11 and 10 have less user interface control over operating system update behaviour than previous versions of Windows. In Windows 11 and 10, there is no way to turn off the Windows Update option using the Control Panel or Settings app; it automatically checks for updates and installs any it finds, whether you like it or not. For most users, this new feature is actually very convenient. If you want to control the update process,...
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tracyyun
by: tracyyun | last post by:
Dear forum friends, With the development of smart home technology, a variety of wireless communication protocols have appeared on the market, such as Zigbee, Z-Wave, Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc. Each protocol has its own unique characteristics and advantages, but as a user who is planning to build a smart home system, I am a bit confused by the choice of these technologies. I'm particularly interested in Zigbee because I've heard it does some...
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agi2029
by: agi2029 | last post by:
Let's talk about the concept of autonomous AI software engineers and no-code agents. These AIs are designed to manage the entire lifecycle of a software development project—planning, coding, testing, and deployment—without human intervention. Imagine an AI that can take a project description, break it down, write the code, debug it, and then launch it, all on its own.... Now, this would greatly impact the work of software developers. The idea...
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by: conductexam | last post by:
I have .net C# application in which I am extracting data from word file and save it in database particularly. To store word all data as it is I am converting the whole word file firstly in HTML and then checking html paragraph one by one. At the time of converting from word file to html my equations which are in the word document file was convert into image. Globals.ThisAddIn.Application.ActiveDocument.Select();...
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by: 6302768590 | last post by:
Hai team i want code for transfer the data from one system to another through IP address by using C# our system has to for every 5mins then we have to update the data what the data is updated we have to send another system
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muto222
by: muto222 | last post by:
How can i add a mobile payment intergratation into php mysql website.
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bsmnconsultancy
by: bsmnconsultancy | last post by:
In today's digital era, a well-designed website is crucial for businesses looking to succeed. Whether you're a small business owner or a large corporation in Toronto, having a strong online presence can significantly impact your brand's success. BSMN Consultancy, a leader in Website Development in Toronto offers valuable insights into creating effective websites that not only look great but also perform exceptionally well. In this comprehensive...

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