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Debugger.

MJ
G'day.

I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well, but I
find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not liking
the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something
new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche).

I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references to
VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging asp
pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on.

Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?

Thanks.
Jul 23 '08 #1
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MJ wrote:
G'day.

I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works
well, but I find that I'd like something a little more robust and
newer. I'm not liking the way it works these days (by these days, I
mean I'm wanting something new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a
Porsche).

I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and
references to VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp
debugging, debugging asp pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger
programs and on and on.

Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?
If you find one, let us know.
--
Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a
quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.
Jul 23 '08 #2
"MJ" <mj**********@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:e4**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
G'day.

I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well, but
I
find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not
liking
the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something
new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche).

I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references
to
VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging asp
pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on.

Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?
What would you be looking for when debugging ASP pages taht VS6 doesn't
already do?
--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
Jul 23 '08 #3
MJ
I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. I
have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing to
do with nothing.

So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.

Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be. I've
noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with my
anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
guesses, so don't hold me to them.

In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
technologies and products.

The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007 on-line
4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected. They
tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
expired.

There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
further.

The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
their web site material), however they have no eval version available, and I
don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.

Anyway, that's my story.

Cheers.
"Anthony Jones" <An*@yadayadayada.comwrote in message
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"MJ" <mj**********@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:e4**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>G'day.

I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works well,
but
I
>find that I'd like something a little more robust and newer. I'm not
liking
>the way it works these days (by these days, I mean I'm wanting something
new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a Porsche).

I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and references
to
>VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp debugging, debugging
asp
pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger programs and on and on.

Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?

What would you be looking for when debugging ASP pages taht VS6 doesn't
already do?
--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

Jul 24 '08 #4
MJ
Hi Bob, see my post in response to Anthony's query.

"Bob Barrows [MVP]" <re******@NOyahoo.SPAMcomwrote in message
news:ej****************@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
MJ wrote:
>G'day.

I am currently using VS6 to debug my classic ASP pages. It works
well, but I find that I'd like something a little more robust and
newer. I'm not liking the way it works these days (by these days, I
mean I'm wanting something new - kinda like upgrading from a VW to a
Porsche).

I've googled the interweb, and all I can find is aspstudio and
references to VS6. Search criteria included: asp debuggers, asp
debugging, debugging asp pages, debugger for asp, asp debugger
programs and on and on.

Can anyone point me to a good debugger and/or recommend one please?
If you find one, let us know.
--
Microsoft MVP -- ASP/ASP.NET
Please reply to the newsgroup. The email account listed in my From
header is my spam trap, so I don't check it very often. You will get a
quicker response by posting to the newsgroup.

Jul 24 '08 #5
"MJ" <mj**********@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:uQ**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled. I
have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing
to
do with nothing.

So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.
As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in solution.
Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even need
a project file.
Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.
I've
noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with
my
anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
guesses, so don't hold me to them.

In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
technologies and products.
I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites, its
a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.

I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS
(I'm primarily using VS2005).

The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007
on-line
4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.
They
tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
expired.

There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
further.

The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
their web site material), however they have no eval version available, and
I
don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.
You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version so
I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
its worth a stab.

--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
Jul 24 '08 #6

"Anthony Jones" <An*@yadayadayada.comwrote in message
news:Oi**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
"MJ" <mj**********@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:uQ**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled.
I
have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing
to
>do with nothing.

So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.

As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in
solution.
Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even
need
a project file.
>Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.
I've
>noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with
my
>anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
guesses, so don't hold me to them.

In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
technologies and products.

I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites,
its
a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.

I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS
(I'm primarily using VS2005).

>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007
on-line
>4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.
They
>tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
expired.

There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
further.

The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
their web site material), however they have no eval version available,
and
I
>don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.

You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version
so
I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
its worth a stab.
You will need the full version of VS. The Express versions (Visual Web
Developer) don't support Attach to Process. So you can't use them for
debugging classic.

--
Mike Brind
MVP - ASP/ASP.NET
Jul 24 '08 #7
MJ
Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I
see, I believe it will do quite well.

Don't know why I didn't look into it myself.

Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to
make sure before I proceed with purchasing it.

Thanks
"Anthony Jones" <An*@yadayadayada.comwrote in message
news:Oi**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
"MJ" <mj**********@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:uQ**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled.
I
have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing
to
>do with nothing.

So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.

As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in
solution.
Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even
need
a project file.
>Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.
I've
>noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've stepped
two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with
my
>anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
guesses, so don't hold me to them.

In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
technologies and products.

I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites,
its
a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.

I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of VS
(I'm primarily using VS2005).

>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007
on-line
>4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After 30
days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.
They
>tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the upgrade,
and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
expired.

There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
further.

The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined in
their web site material), however they have no eval version available,
and
I
>don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.

You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version
so
I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
its worth a stab.

--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

Jul 24 '08 #8
MJ
Thanks Mike, I am looking at VS2k5/8 as per Anthony's post and yours.

Cheers.
"Mike Brind [MVP]" <pa*******@hotmail.comwrote in message
news:uX**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>
"Anthony Jones" <An*@yadayadayada.comwrote in message
news:Oi**************@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>"MJ" <mj**********@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:uQ**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>I should say what annoys me is that one needs the FP extensions enabled.
I
have PHP services enabled on my server and they conflict more times than
not. This was confirmed on a Dev/Test server and after removing FP
extension, my PHP search features worked fine. I use EZgenerator and
Webuilder for generating the base code and editing, but that has nothing
to
>>do with nothing.

So I lose debuggability or searchability. Hmm, not a big decision.

As of VS 2005/8 has a much better way to represent the website in
solution.
Not only does it not need FP (it used the file system) it doesn't even
need
a project file.
>>Also, I've found that watch points aren't as dynamic as they should be.
I've
>>noticed that several watch point values aren't updated until I've
stepped
two or 3 more times. I'm suspecting that this may have something do with
my
>>anti-viral program (Kaspersky), OR the PHP services, but these only a
guesses, so don't hold me to them.

In any case, it is now 2008, I think it time to move on to newer
technologies and products.

I've had trouble with Kaspersky myself and scripts running on web sites,
its
a bit too agressive for me. I would recommend against on-access virus
scanning on a dev box and similarly for a server.

I've not noticed any problem with watch points in the later versions of
VS
(I'm primarily using VS2005).

>>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008. However, their
update/upgrade policy is rather bizaar. I purchased ASP Studio 2007
on-line
>>4 months ago, the program offered me an update which I accepted. After
30
days, it asked me for my reg code. I re-entered it and it was rejected.
They
>>tell me that the version I bought was no longer supported by the
upgrade,
and trying to re-isntall 2007 just wont' work, says the eval period is
expired.

There's a lot more that went on, but I don't want to boar anyone any
further.

The other one that I found that looks good is Team Remote (as outlined
in
their web site material), however they have no eval version available,
and
I
>>don't "Buy then Try" - just not a good practice.

You could try VS 2008 Express, I've never actually used this free version
so
I don't know what isn't in it that is in the full product, but being free
its worth a stab.

You will need the full version of VS. The Express versions (Visual Web
Developer) don't support Attach to Process. So you can't use them for
debugging classic.

--
Mike Brind
MVP - ASP/ASP.NET


Jul 24 '08 #9
The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008.
where did you find this ??
Jul 24 '08 #10
MJ
Here is the link for ASP Studio: http://en.ewebxp.com/

"Jon Paal [MSMD]" <Jon nospam Paal @ everywhere dot comwrote in message
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>
>The one that I found that I do like is ASP Studio 2008.
where did you find this ??


Jul 25 '08 #11
"MJ" <mj**********@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I
see, I believe it will do quite well.

Don't know why I didn't look into it myself.

Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to
make sure before I proceed with purchasing it.
Yes you can have VS6 and VS 2k8 on the same machine. Make sure you patch
2k8 once you get it.

--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET
Jul 25 '08 #12
MJ
Thanks Anthony.

"Anthony Jones" <An*@yadayadayada.comwrote in message
news:uL**************@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
"MJ" <mj**********@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>Thanks Anthony. I am looking into VS 2k5/8 as per your post. From what I
see, I believe it will do quite well.

Don't know why I didn't look into it myself.

Can I leave VS6 on my system with VS 2k5/8? I suspect I can, but want to
make sure before I proceed with purchasing it.

Yes you can have VS6 and VS 2k8 on the same machine. Make sure you patch
2k8 once you get it.

--
Anthony Jones - MVP ASP/ASP.NET

Jul 25 '08 #13
Seems they only have a 2006 version -- there is no 2008 version.


Jul 25 '08 #14

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