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CDONTS.Send ignored

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I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely
ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating its
properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
Jul 19 '05 #1
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P: n/a
-----Original Message-----
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completelyignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest ofthe code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating itsproperties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?

.

If on Win 2000 use cdo. See this
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2026

HTH
Mike
Jul 19 '05 #2

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What makes you think it's being ignored? If it's because you didn't receive
an e-mail, look into issues with SMTP. All that CDONTS does is generate a
text file in e-mail format and put it in the SMTP server's pickup directory.
From that point on, it's up to SMTP to send the e-mail.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely
ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest of the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating its
properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?

Jul 19 '05 #3

P: n/a
Thanks, I'll try.
But one thing puzzles me - in one plase your resouce says CDONTS is
depricated and not shipped with Windows, whereas in another place is said
that it is suppoerted by w2000 and is included in OS

As it does not cause error, I suppose it is included in 2000
<an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:09****************************@phx.gbl...
-----Original Message-----
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like

objCDONTS.Send is completely
ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors,

neither does the rest of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then

manipulating its
properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send

work?


.

If on Win 2000 use cdo. See this
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2026

HTH
Mike

Jul 19 '05 #4

P: n/a
Up through Win2k it was included. It's now gone from the OS.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:uW**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Thanks, I'll try.
But one thing puzzles me - in one plase your resouce says CDONTS is
depricated and not shipped with Windows, whereas in another place is said
that it is suppoerted by w2000 and is included in OS

As it does not cause error, I suppose it is included in 2000
<an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:09****************************@phx.gbl...
-----Original Message-----
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like

objCDONTS.Send is completely
ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors,

neither does the rest of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then

manipulating its
properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send

work?


.

If on Win 2000 use cdo. See this
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2026

HTH
Mike


Jul 19 '05 #5

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What makes you think it's being ignored? - my ignorance.
Also last time I used that object on my ISP in October, it worked fine.
But I cannot remember if I tried if on my local PC.

Obviously SMTP is beyond the scope of this NG, yet perhaps you can advise
where I can read about it? Is it part of IIS5?

Also what do you think about Mikes opinion regarding CDONTS/CDO ?
"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
What makes you think it's being ignored? If it's because you didn't receive an e-mail, look into issues with SMTP. All that CDONTS does is generate a
text file in e-mail format and put it in the SMTP server's pickup directory. From that point on, it's up to SMTP to send the e-mail.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest

of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating its properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?


Jul 19 '05 #6

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<aa> wrote in message news:OH**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
What makes you think it's being ignored? - my ignorance.
Also last time I used that object on my ISP in October, it worked fine.
But I cannot remember if I tried if on my local PC.

Obviously SMTP is beyond the scope of this NG, yet perhaps you can advise
where I can read about it? Is it part of IIS5?
Yes, it's part of IIS. There is an SMTP MS newsgroup. Search "smtp" in
your news group list. I forget exactly what it's called.
..inetserver.iis.smtp_nntp maybe. Also, www.iisfaq.com may have info.

Also what do you think about Mikes opinion regarding CDONTS/CDO ?


I agree with him. The only reason to use CDONTS over CDO is if you are
stuck on an NT server and cannot change that. If you're all W2K or higher,
I suggest switching to CDO.

Ray at work
Jul 19 '05 #7

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So the problem should be with SMTP, as Ray suggested

Also it means that on a local PC is is not supposed to work without SMTP
tuning, unless it gets installed and tuned by default during installation
of w2k Pro -does it?

"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:O3**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Up through Win2k it was included. It's now gone from the OS.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:uW**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Thanks, I'll try.
But one thing puzzles me - in one plase your resouce says CDONTS is
depricated and not shipped with Windows, whereas in another place is said that it is suppoerted by w2000 and is included in OS

As it does not cause error, I suppose it is included in 2000
<an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:09****************************@phx.gbl...

>-----Original Message-----
>I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
>Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like
objCDONTS.Send is completely
>ignored.
>
>I think is it ignored because it throws no errors,
neither does the rest of
>the code setting
>objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then
manipulating its
>properties.
>
>Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send
work?
>
>
>.
>
If on Win 2000 use cdo. See this
http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2026

HTH
Mike



Jul 19 '05 #8

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CDONTS is not the same thing as SMTP
CDONTS is an interface TO the SMTP service.
Look in your c:\inetpub\mailroot folder tree for the message(s) you wrote.
If they are in there then CDONTS did it's part and SMTP isn't confiugred
right.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
So the problem should be with SMTP, as Ray suggested

Also it means that on a local PC is is not supposed to work without SMTP
tuning, unless it gets installed and tuned by default during installation
of w2k Pro -does it?

"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:O3**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Up through Win2k it was included. It's now gone from the OS.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:uW**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
Thanks, I'll try.
But one thing puzzles me - in one plase your resouce says CDONTS is
depricated and not shipped with Windows, whereas in another place is said that it is suppoerted by w2000 and is included in OS

As it does not cause error, I suppose it is included in 2000
<an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:09****************************@phx.gbl...
>
> >-----Original Message-----
> >I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> >Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like
> objCDONTS.Send is completely
> >ignored.
> >
> >I think is it ignored because it throws no errors,
> neither does the rest of
> >the code setting
> >objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then
> manipulating its
> >properties.
> >
> >Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send
> work?
> >
> >
> >.
> >
> If on Win 2000 use cdo. See this
> http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2026
>
> HTH
> Mike



Jul 19 '05 #9

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It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on the
same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and
no result as if it is ignored.
It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs
without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked
earlier and I still have several files streated previously.

Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
which might be disabled?

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely
ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest of the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating its
properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?

Jul 19 '05 #10

P: n/a
Can you show your code that is not returning an error and also not doing
what you expect it to do? There is something else going on here.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on the same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and
no result as if it is ignored.
It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs
without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked
earlier and I still have several files streated previously.

Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
which might be disabled?

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest

of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating its properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?


Jul 19 '05 #11

P: n/a
You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on the same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and
no result as if it is ignored.
It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs
without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked
earlier and I still have several files streated previously.

Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
which might be disabled?

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest

of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating its properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?


Jul 19 '05 #12

P: n/a
I did and it made no difference

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:O7**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I stress that you really need to take out your On Error Resume Next
statement (or move it around to different locations as needed) whenever
you're trying to debug something.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:uo***************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
I have it indeed, but next to it goes

If err.number <> 0 then
Response.write("Errors occurred while saving your form
submission.")
Else
Response.write "The Order has been saved to " & fPath &". <a
href=/data/orders/" & fName &
".xml><br/>View the Order as an XML file</a><p/>"
End If

So I understand that I should have "Errors occurred while saving your form
submission."
But I do have "The Order has been saved to" which means that err.number <>
0
Yet no file was created

But I was wrong in my previous message blaming FileSystemObject.
The file in question is supposed to be created by Microsoft.XMLDOM object and
"ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" goes after
Set objDom = Server.CreateObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
some manipulations to form a file name and the path to place it into
objDom.Save (path and file name)

I stress, that it worked previously on ISP w2000 server and still works on my local w2000


"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:ux**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on the
> same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no
error
and
> no result as if it is ignored.
> It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code

runs
> without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously

worked
> earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
>
> Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service > which might be disabled?
>
>
>
> <aa> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is
completely
> > ignored.
> >
> > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does

the rest
> of
> > the code setting
> > objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then

manipulating its
> > properties.
> >
> > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> >
> >
>
>



Jul 19 '05 #13

P: n/a
In order to help with this issue, you'd have to do some of your own testing
and debugging first. You said that you lots of lines of code in this page.
Chances are that 99% of it is irrelevant to your problem here. What steps
have you taken to debug this? Have you thrown together a simple four line
asp page that creates this object and executes the save method with some
test data? You need to be able to mentally extract where the problem is and
work with that all on its own. If you have an asp page that collects form
values, does some arithmetic operations on them, inserts the results into a
database, e-mails the results to a recipient, generates a log file with the
FSO, executes a shell command, and generates a pdf and the file is not being
created by the FSO (or whatever you're using), what you'd want to do is
totally disregard all the other steps and just create a nice simple page
that runs the same FSO commands with manually entered text. I don't know
that I'm explaining this well, but it's hard to explain the steps to take to
debug something. YOu just have to sit back and think about it for a bit and
narrow down where the issue may be occurring and what the possible causes
are. You won't be able to do this if you look at 1000 lines of code and
think of it as just one step.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I did and it made no difference

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:O7**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I stress that you really need to take out your On Error Resume Next
statement (or move it around to different locations as needed) whenever
you're trying to debug something.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:uo***************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
I have it indeed, but next to it goes

If err.number <> 0 then
Response.write("Errors occurred while saving your form
submission.")
Else
Response.write "The Order has been saved to " & fPath &". <a
href=/data/orders/" & fName &
".xml><br/>View the Order as an XML file</a><p/>"
End If

So I understand that I should have "Errors occurred while saving your form submission."
But I do have "The Order has been saved to" which means that err.number
<>
0
Yet no file was created

But I was wrong in my previous message blaming FileSystemObject.
The file in question is supposed to be created by Microsoft.XMLDOM object and
"ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" goes after
Set objDom = Server.CreateObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
some manipulations to form a file name and the path to place it into
objDom.Save (path and file name)

I stress, that it worked previously on ISP w2000 server and still
works
on my local w2000


"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:ux**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?
>
> --
> Curt Christianson
> Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> www.Darkfalz.com
>
>
> <aa> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the

FileSystemObject
on
> the
> > same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no

error and
> > no result as if it is ignored.
> > It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs
> > without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously
worked
> > earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
> >
> > Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other

service
> > which might be disabled?
> >
> >
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl... > > > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is
> completely
> > > ignored.
> > >
> > > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest
> > of
> > > the code setting
> > > objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then

manipulating
> its
> > > properties.
> > >
> > > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Jul 19 '05 #14

P: n/a
<aa> wrote:

I did and it made no difference


Let me interject a comment here -- we have a server that exhibits this
behavior in *some* folders, but not others. A quick fix can be simply
creating a new folder and moving the script there. We have never devoted
much effort to determining the cause, however, as it gave us reason to move
to CDO.
--
Dave Anderson

Unsolicited commercial email will be read at a cost of $500 per message. Use
of this email address implies consent to these terms. Please do not contact
me directly or ask me to contact you directly for assistance. If your
question is worth asking, it's worth posting.
Jul 19 '05 #15

P: n/a
Thanks, Ray.
The approach you are describing in that many words is well known as "Problem
Isolation" and of course, I have tried it while waiting comments from
colleagues in here.
CDONTS usage is well documented. I cut and pasted an example and run it
alone without any databases you mention - same result. Same about
Microsoft.XMLDOM
I do not think I need to post these examples for discussions in here, don't
I?

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:eG**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
In order to help with this issue, you'd have to do some of your own testing and debugging first. You said that you lots of lines of code in this page. Chances are that 99% of it is irrelevant to your problem here. What steps
have you taken to debug this? Have you thrown together a simple four line
asp page that creates this object and executes the save method with some
test data? You need to be able to mentally extract where the problem is and work with that all on its own. If you have an asp page that collects form
values, does some arithmetic operations on them, inserts the results into a database, e-mails the results to a recipient, generates a log file with the FSO, executes a shell command, and generates a pdf and the file is not being created by the FSO (or whatever you're using), what you'd want to do is
totally disregard all the other steps and just create a nice simple page
that runs the same FSO commands with manually entered text. I don't know
that I'm explaining this well, but it's hard to explain the steps to take to debug something. YOu just have to sit back and think about it for a bit and narrow down where the issue may be occurring and what the possible causes
are. You won't be able to do this if you look at 1000 lines of code and
think of it as just one step.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I did and it made no difference

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:O7**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
I stress that you really need to take out your On Error Resume Next
statement (or move it around to different locations as needed) whenever you're trying to debug something.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:uo***************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
> I have it indeed, but next to it goes
>
> If err.number <> 0 then
> Response.write("Errors occurred while saving your form
> submission.")
> Else
> Response.write "The Order has been saved to " & fPath &". <a
> href=/data/orders/" & fName &
> ".xml><br/>View the Order as an XML file</a><p/>"
> End If
>
> So I understand that I should have "Errors occurred while saving your
form
> submission."
> But I do have "The Order has been saved to" which means that err.number <>
> 0
> Yet no file was created
>
> But I was wrong in my previous message blaming FileSystemObject.
> The file in question is supposed to be created by Microsoft.XMLDOM

object
> and
> "ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" goes after
> Set objDom = Server.CreateObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
> some manipulations to form a file name and the path to place it
into > objDom.Save (path and file name)
>
> I stress, that it worked previously on ISP w2000 server and still works
on
> my local w2000
>
>
>
>
> "Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
> news:ux**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?
> >
> > --
> > Curt Christianson
> > Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
> > www.Darkfalz.com
> >
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message

news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > > It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the

FileSystemObject
on
> > the
> > > same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no

error
> and
> > > no result as if it is ignored.
> > > It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code > runs
> > > without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously > worked
> > > earlier and I still have several files streated previously.
> > >
> > > Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other
service
> > > which might be disabled?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > <aa> wrote in message

news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > > > I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > > > Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is
> > completely
> > > > ignored.
> > > >
> > > > I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither

does the
> rest
> > > of
> > > > the code setting
> > > > objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then
manipulating
> > its
> > > > properties.
> > > >
> > > > Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>



Jul 19 '05 #16

P: n/a
The problem of creating files, as any real problem, got sorted itself out.
Just a moment ago about 20 files which I tried to create fior the previous
three hours suddenly appeared where they were expected to appear.
I do not know where ther were delayed - I monitor the folder content using
and FTP programme.
Either the FTP did not see these files, or the server delayed placing the
file into the folder. One thin is for sure - the names of the files are made
of the date and the time they are created - and all these names exactly
metched the files' date and time

Still no sign of emails sent - perhaps they are too somewhere in the
pipeline - perhaps I should wait till tomorrow. Meanwhile thank you
everybody who replied.
<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on the same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and
no result as if it is ignored.
It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs
without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked
earlier and I still have several files streated previously.

Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
which might be disabled?

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest

of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating its properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?


Jul 19 '05 #17

P: n/a
It certainly couldn't hurt to post the example code snippets here so that
others can execute the same code and post the results.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:eO**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Thanks, Ray.
The approach you are describing in that many words is well known as "Problem Isolation" and of course, I have tried it while waiting comments from
colleagues in here.
CDONTS usage is well documented. I cut and pasted an example and run it
alone without any databases you mention - same result. Same about
Microsoft.XMLDOM
I do not think I need to post these examples for discussions in here, don't I?

Jul 19 '05 #18

P: n/a
I have it indeed, but next to it goes

If err.number <> 0 then
Response.write("Errors occurred while saving your form
submission.")
Else
Response.write "The Order has been saved to " & fPath &". <a
href=/data/orders/" & fName &
".xml><br/>View the Order as an XML file</a><p/>"
End If

So I understand that I should have "Errors occurred while saving your form
submission."
But I do have "The Order has been saved to" which means that err.number <>
0
Yet no file was created

But I was wrong in my previous message blaming FileSystemObject.
The file in question is supposed to be created by Microsoft.XMLDOM object
and
"ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" goes after
Set objDom = Server.CreateObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
some manipulations to form a file name and the path to place it into
objDom.Save (path and file name)

I stress, that it worked previously on ISP w2000 server and still works on
my local w2000


"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:ux**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on

the
same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and
no result as if it is ignored.
It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked earlier and I still have several files streated previously.

Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
which might be disabled?

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the
rest of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating

its properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?



Jul 19 '05 #19

P: n/a
I stress that you really need to take out your On Error Resume Next
statement (or move it around to different locations as needed) whenever
you're trying to debug something.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:uo***************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
I have it indeed, but next to it goes

If err.number <> 0 then
Response.write("Errors occurred while saving your form
submission.")
Else
Response.write "The Order has been saved to " & fPath &". <a
href=/data/orders/" & fName &
".xml><br/>View the Order as an XML file</a><p/>"
End If

So I understand that I should have "Errors occurred while saving your form
submission."
But I do have "The Order has been saved to" which means that err.number <> 0
Yet no file was created

But I was wrong in my previous message blaming FileSystemObject.
The file in question is supposed to be created by Microsoft.XMLDOM object
and
"ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" goes after
Set objDom = Server.CreateObject("Microsoft.XMLDOM")
some manipulations to form a file name and the path to place it into
objDom.Save (path and file name)

I stress, that it worked previously on ISP w2000 server and still works on
my local w2000


"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:ux**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
You don't have an ON ERROR RESUME NEXT do you?

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on
the
same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and no result as if it is ignored.
It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked earlier and I still have several files streated previously.

Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other
service which might be disabled?

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is

completely
> ignored.
>
> I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest of
> the code setting
> objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then

manipulating its
> properties.
>
> Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?
>
>



Jul 19 '05 #20

P: n/a
Ray,

I left come idea od what I am doing in my reply to Curt's question.
The whole code is quite long and seat in several .inc files therefore to
copy it here is not streightforward and probably will require time for you
to get its logic.
Is that sufficient for you to guess where should I be looking for an error
and I copy here relevant bit.

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:uD**************@TK2MSFTNGP11.phx.gbl...
Can you show your code that is not returning an error and also not doing
what you expect it to do? There is something else going on here.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It might be relevant - I've just discovered that the FileSystemObject on

the
same w2k ISP server behaves the same way as CDONTS - produces no error and
no result as if it is ignored.
It is supposed to create a file on the server, and although the code runs without producing error messages, no file is created. It obviously worked earlier and I still have several files streated previously.

Is FileSystemObject, like CDONTS, also dependent on some other service
which might be disabled?

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the
rest of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating

its properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?



Jul 19 '05 #21

P: n/a
This makes sense, David.

I can change directories at my will as for security reasons my ISP created
only one directory with the writing permissions. So I have to stick to it.
As I mentioned, it worked OK 2 month ago.
It is possible, that the server changes its behavour in *some* folder?
Are you also saying that CDO does not cause similar problems.
"Dave Anderson" <GT**********@spammotel.com> wrote in message
news:OX**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
<aa> wrote:

I did and it made no difference
Let me interject a comment here -- we have a server that exhibits this
behavior in *some* folders, but not others. A quick fix can be simply
creating a new folder and moving the script there. We have never devoted
much effort to determining the cause, however, as it gave us reason to

move to CDO.
--
Dave Anderson

Unsolicited commercial email will be read at a cost of $500 per message. Use of this email address implies consent to these terms. Please do not contact me directly or ask me to contact you directly for assistance. If your
question is worth asking, it's worth posting.

Jul 19 '05 #22

P: n/a
Thanks, Curt, it was the most useful.
On my local PC all my messages are there, so as Ray suggested, I have to
look at SMTP.
Obviously I cannot check these folders on my ISP server. Perhaps they
changed SMTP settings
"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
CDONTS is not the same thing as SMTP
CDONTS is an interface TO the SMTP service.
Look in your c:\inetpub\mailroot folder tree for the message(s) you wrote.
If they are in there then CDONTS did it's part and SMTP isn't confiugred
right.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
So the problem should be with SMTP, as Ray suggested

Also it means that on a local PC is is not supposed to work without SMTP
tuning, unless it gets installed and tuned by default during installation of w2k Pro -does it?

"Curt_C [MVP]" <software_AT_darkfalz.com> wrote in message
news:O3**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
Up through Win2k it was included. It's now gone from the OS.

--
Curt Christianson
Owner/Lead Developer, DF-Software
www.Darkfalz.com
<aa> wrote in message news:uW**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> Thanks, I'll try.
> But one thing puzzles me - in one plase your resouce says CDONTS is
> depricated and not shipped with Windows, whereas in another place is

said
> that it is suppoerted by w2000 and is included in OS
>
> As it does not cause error, I suppose it is included in 2000
>
>
> <an*******@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:09****************************@phx.gbl...
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
> > >Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like
> > objCDONTS.Send is completely
> > >ignored.
> > >
> > >I think is it ignored because it throws no errors,
> > neither does the rest of
> > >the code setting
> > >objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then
> > manipulating its
> > >properties.
> > >
> > >Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send
> > work?
> > >
> > >
> > >.
> > >
> > If on Win 2000 use cdo. See this
> > http://www.aspfaq.com/show.asp?id=2026
> >
> > HTH
> > Mike
>
>



Jul 19 '05 #23

P: n/a
It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my local
PC.

I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
project.
My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the moment,
relies on SMTP settings.
if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
prtests and go on strike?

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
What makes you think it's being ignored? If it's because you didn't receive an e-mail, look into issues with SMTP. All that CDONTS does is generate a
text file in e-mail format and put it in the SMTP server's pickup directory. From that point on, it's up to SMTP to send the e-mail.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
I did a working code with CDONTS on NT4
Now I am testing is on w2k and it looks like objCDONTS.Send is completely ignored.

I think is it ignored because it throws no errors, neither does the rest

of
the code setting
objCDONTS=Server.CreateObject("CDONTS.NewMail") and then manipulating its properties.

Do I need to somehow set IIS5 to make objCDONTS.Send work?


Jul 19 '05 #24

P: n/a
Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own internal
one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.

Ray at home

<aa> wrote in message news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my local PC.

I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
project.
My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the moment, relies on SMTP settings.
if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
prtests and go on strike?

Jul 19 '05 #25

P: n/a
Thanks
How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
news:eA*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own internal one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.

Ray at home

<aa> wrote in message news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my

local
PC.

I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate
project.
My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the

moment,
relies on SMTP settings.
if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress
prtests and go on strike?


Jul 19 '05 #26

P: n/a
Tools--Accounts.............

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:u1**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks
How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
news:eA*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own

internal
one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.

Ray at home

<aa> wrote in message news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my

local
PC.

I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate project.
My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the

moment,
relies on SMTP settings.
if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress prtests and go on strike?



Jul 19 '05 #27

P: n/a
Do you mean that if in
Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that I
am using the ISP's SMTP ?
"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:OM****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Tools--Accounts.............

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:u1**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks
How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
news:eA*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own

internal
one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.

Ray at home

<aa> wrote in message news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of my local
> PC.
>
> I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help file.
> The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a separate > project.
> My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the
moment,
> relies on SMTP settings.
> if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of OutlookExpress > prtests and go on strike?



Jul 19 '05 #28

P: n/a
No, your e-mail address means nothing and does not tell you what your POP
and SMTP settings are. See your ISP's FAQs. For example, if you use
Verizon DSL,
http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/SRVS/C...xi=1,case=2372.

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Do you mean that if in
Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that I
am using the ISP's SMTP ?
"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:OM****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Tools--Accounts.............

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:u1**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Thanks
How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?

"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message
news:eA*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own
internal
> one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
>
> Ray at home
>
> <aa> wrote in message news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
> > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect of
my
> local
> > PC.
> >
> > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help

file. > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a

separate
> > project.
> > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the > moment,
> > relies on SMTP settings.
> > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of

OutlookExpress
> > prtests and go on strike?
>
>



Jul 19 '05 #29

P: n/a
Ray,
I am talking about my ISP SMTP server address like
mail.microsoft.com
which is shown in Outgoing Mails (SMTP), not about my email address.


"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:e8**************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...
No, your e-mail address means nothing and does not tell you what your POP
and SMTP settings are. See your ISP's FAQs. For example, if you use
Verizon DSL,
http://onlinehelp.verizon.net/SRVS/C...xi=1,case=2372.
Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:%2****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Do you mean that if in
Outgoing Mails (SMTP) I have the address of my provider, this means that I
am using the ISP's SMTP ?
"Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myfirstname at lane34 dot com> wrote in message
news:OM****************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
Tools--Accounts.............

Ray at work

<aa> wrote in message news:u1**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> Thanks
> How can I check if I use my ISP's SMTP server in OE ?
>
> "Ray at <%=sLocation%>" <myFirstNameATlane34dotKOMM> wrote in message > news:eA*************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...
> > Chances are that you use your ISP's SMTP server in OE, not your own > internal
> > one. So, if that's the case, no, it won't affect OE.
> >
> > Ray at home
> >
> > <aa> wrote in message news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl... > > > It turns out that you were right about SMTP, at least in respect

of
my
> > local
> > > PC.
> > >
> > > I followed SMTP link you offered and found a good MS SMTP Help

file. > > > The proble is it is so good and detailed that to study it is a
separate
> > > project.
> > > My concern is, whether OutlookExpress which is working fine for the > > moment,
> > > relies on SMTP settings.
> > > if I start experimenting with SMTP, is there a chanse of
OutlookExpress
> > > prtests and go on strike?
> >
> >
>
>



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