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[Andy]

I am with Brinkster at the mo. Can anyone recommend anyone better? I am
specifically looking for cheaper (than Brinkster) MS SQL support or My SQL.

Thanks for your time.
Andy.

[Aaron Bertrand - MVP]

http://www.aspfaq.com/search.asp?q=brinkster

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"Andy" <pl*********@theGroup.com> wrote in message
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I am with Brinkster at the mo. Can anyone recommend anyone better? I am
specifically looking for cheaper (than Brinkster) MS SQL support or My SQL.
Thanks for your time.
Andy.

[William Tasso]

Aaron Bertrand - MVP wrote:

http://www.aspfaq.com/search.asp?q=brinkster

What's it supposed to do?

It looks like a form, but doesn't do anything.

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[Atrax]

> Can anyone recommend anyone better?

hundreds of hosts

specifically looking for cheaper (than Brinkster)

well that's different then. how much does brinkster charge you right
now?

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[Aaron Bertrand - MVP]

> It looks like a form, but doesn't do anything.

You should enable JavaScript. You can't be getting much out of the web
without it.

That specific URL hits a search page with that query string, and then -
because there is exactly one result - sends the user directly to that page.
I'd use server-side code for that (response.redirect), but I'm using
JavaScript in order to (at least try) avoid messing with the back button
functionality.

I did take your comment earlier this year into advisement, of course.
You'll notice that most of the navigation and other things in the site
(including the search, unless there is exactly one result) works without
JavaScript.

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SQL Server MVP
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[William Tasso]

Aaron Bertrand - MVP wrote:

It looks like a form, but doesn't do anything.
You should enable JavaScript. You can't be getting much out of the
web without it.

No thank you. If I want interactivity, I'll build/buy a client app that
does it properly. ;o)

There's also the accessibility issues and the search engine spiders to
consider.
That specific URL hits a search page with that query string, and then
- because there is exactly one result - sends the user directly to
that page. I'd use server-side code for that (response.redirect), but
I'm using JavaScript in order to (at least try) avoid messing with
the back button functionality.
Don't think that's a problem in those circumstances where there's only one
result.
I did take your comment earlier this year into advisement, of course.
Good to know it was delivered. /ot: aside: I have some clients atm whose
mail (outgoing - some of it) is just evaporating - no delivery, no bounce.
it's a bugger ;o)
You'll notice that most of the navigation and other things in the site
(including the search, unless there is exactly one result) works
without JavaScript.

ahh - I see. have you considered a 'go' link set within <noscript> ?

But I seem to be wandering off-topic.

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[Ray at]

"William Tasso" <ne****@tbdata.com> wrote in message
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ahh - I see. have you considered a 'go' link set within <noscript> ?

http://www.aspfaq.com/etiquette.asp?id=5001

:P

Ray at home

[William Tasso]

Ray at <%=sLocation%> wrote:

"William Tasso" <ne****@tbdata.com> wrote in message
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ahh - I see. have you considered a 'go' link set within <noscript> ?

http://www.aspfaq.com/etiquette.asp?id=5001

:P

LOL: have your people contact my people to arrange a suitable venue

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[Jeff Cochran]

On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 22:43:55 -0000, "Andy" <pl*********@theGroup.com>
wrote:

I am with Brinkster at the mo. Can anyone recommend anyone better? I am
specifically looking for cheaper (than Brinkster) MS SQL support or My SQL.

Check here for a great list of ASP hosts, then review them:

http://www.google.com/

Jeff

[Aaron Bertrand [MVP]]

> http://www.aspfaq.com/etiquette.asp?id=5001

<aol>LOL!</aol>

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http://www.aspfaq.com/

[Aaron Bertrand [MVP]]

> No thank you. If I want interactivity, I'll build/buy a client app that

does it properly. ;o)
Well, I find it funny that you say that, when in fact you have some
JavaScript on your site as well. :)
There's also the accessibility issues
Well, as I've said, I've worked pretty hard to remove the reliance upon
JavaScript. I think there are only a couple of cases
ahh - I see. have you considered a 'go' link set within <noscript> ?
Yes, of course. And, believe it or not, it's already implemented for two
scenarios I briefly mentioned. When a search results in exactly one option
(e.g. search for "array simulate procedure" without the quotes) or a request
for a specific article (e.g. search for "2248" without the quotes).
and the search engine spiders to consider.

To put it bluntly, I could give a rat's ass about search engines. Most of
them can't deal with ASP pages anyway; and I'm not going to start touting an
ASP site that's published as plain HTML or some such nonsense. This is
going come across as quite pretentious, but I'm sure a very large percentage
of ASP developers have at least heard of my URL. And I've worked pretty
hard on my search engine too, so anyone who knows about it shouldn't need to
search the web for articles on my site.

I find it pretty funny when companies pay good money to "search engine
submission" services. This is not the way to advertise, and using a search
engine is quite an ineffective way, IMHO, to find answers about technical
problems. Google is about the only one that does things right, and I find
it much more valuable to use it for searching the groups than the web.
Let's face it, when you find something on a web site like mine, you're
almost guaranteed the information is going to be biased to some degree.
You're also likely to find some potentially misleading information, or just
plain bad advice. When you look at conversations, at least you can be sure
to have a minimum of two inputs (comments about single posts with no replies
to dev/null, thanks).

As with most subjective topics, YMMV.

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SQL Server MVP
http://www.aspfaq.com/

[William Tasso]

Aaron Bertrand [MVP] wrote:

...
Well, I find it funny that you say that, when in fact you have some
JavaScript on your site as well. :)
You mean the site-map? Of course I do ;o)

btw: you are welcome to check the sitemap without client script enabled. It
still does the job.

Wouldn't it be just a tad hypocrytical to pontificate on something I know
nothing about?

There's also the accessibility issues

Well, as I've said, I've worked pretty hard to remove the reliance
upon JavaScript. I think there are only a couple of cases
...

I know, it can be a bugger. From my p.o.v (as a visitor/user of your site)
it helps to know that the issues are being addressed.

and the search engine spiders to consider.
To put it bluntly, I could give a rat's ass about search engines.
Most of them can't deal with ASP pages anyway;

There are issues with some URL constructs most notably: ?id=... Replacing
'id' with something else has been shown to work with google and others. The
second problem is the number of variables in the query string; AIUI SE
spiders barf on URLs with more than two variables.
and I'm not going to
start touting an ASP site that's published as plain HTML or some such
nonsense.
Agreed, never a good plan, maintenance is a right royal headache which is
one of the reasons I promote plain simple markup with client script used
only for enhancements.
This is going come across as quite pretentious, but I'm
sure a very large percentage of ASP developers have at least heard of
my URL. And I've worked pretty hard on my search engine too, so
anyone who knows about it shouldn't need to search the web for
articles on my site.
np, I think you've earned your pat-on-the-back.

I was thinking of the thousands of developers who have never heard of usenet
or the archive.
I find it pretty funny when companies pay good money to "search engine
submission" services.
Agreed, google appears to have indexed a good number of your pages so I
guess you have little to worry about there.
http://www.google.com/search?&q=alli...2aspfaq.com%22
This is not the way to advertise, and using a
search engine is quite an ineffective way, IMHO, to find answers
about technical problems. Google is about the only one that does
things right, and I find it much more valuable to use it for
searching the groups than the web. Let's face it, when you find
something on a web site like mine, you're almost guaranteed the
information is going to be biased to some degree. You're also likely
to find some potentially misleading information, or just plain bad
advice. When you look at conversations, at least you can be sure to
have a minimum of two inputs (comments about single posts with no
replies to dev/null, thanks).
Sure, but you have faith in the validity of your own pages. As you say
there's plenty nonsense on the web (and on usenet too) - for example there
are still plenty resources promoting presentational markup from the now
discredited HTML 3.2 spec. Is it not a good thing if pages from your site
are returned in the SERPs for relevant queries?
As with most subjective topics, YMMV.

Of course.

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[Aaron Bertrand [MVP]]

> You mean the site-map? Of course I do ;o)

Actually, every page sets the status bar to some text, as well. (I never
looked at your sitemap.)

But as with your site, I think everything on my site functions quite well
even without script enabled. Please let me know if you find anything that
doesn't function with scripting enabled.

Oh, and let us know when you turn scripting back on due to frustration of
99% of the sites out there requiring it (or Flash).

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SQL Server MVP
http://www.aspfaq.com/

[William Tasso]

Aaron Bertrand [MVP] wrote:

You mean the site-map? Of course I do ;o)
Actually, every page sets the status bar to some text, as well. (I
never looked at your sitemap.)

So it does - I'd forgotten. Not critical to functionality though, is it?
But as with your site, I think everything on my site functions quite
well even without script enabled.
Certainly - even the single answer works now ;o)
Please let me know if you find
anything that doesn't function with scripting enabled.
Surely
Oh, and let us know when you turn scripting back on
Internet Explorer? It ain't gonna happen.
due to
frustration of 99% of the sites out there requiring it (or Flash).

I let them run in Opera and occasionally Mozilla where they can do little
harm.

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