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no more pop-ups in IE?

Ed
read article:
http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...ry/Technology/

How will this impact legitimate web application pop-up windows, or web apps
that make use of their own custom error alert dialogs? i.e. javascript
window.open()

Jul 19 '05 #1
10 1704
I guess they'll have to start using target=_blank. Aw, what a pity. No
more taking over my browser. Good riddance.

"Ed" <ed*********@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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read article:
http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...ry/Technology/
How will this impact legitimate web application pop-up windows, or web apps that make use of their own custom error alert dialogs? i.e. javascript
window.open()

Jul 19 '05 #2
"Ed" wrote:

http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...ry/Technology/

What's a pop-up ad?

How will this impact legitimate web application pop-up
windows, or web apps that make use of their own custom
error alert dialogs? i.e. javascript window.open()


Assuming MS implements pop-up blocking in a similar manner to that performed
by Mozilla, it shouldn't have much effect on applications. Mozilla blocks
"unrequested" windows, and I have found it to be quite accurate at
differentiating between requested and unrequested windows.

I haven't seen a pop-up/under ad in a very long time, and I have yet to
notice an application that broke as a result (though I can envision how it
might happen).
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Jul 19 '05 #3
Ed wrote:
read article:
http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...ry/Technology/
How will this impact legitimate web application
it won't - applications created for use on the www don't use pop-ups
pop-up windows, or
web apps that make use of their own custom error alert dialogs? i.e.
javascript window.open()


does anybody still let javascript do that in their browser? why?

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William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com
Jul 19 '05 #4
I write many legitimate web applications that are not on the www. In many
of these I use pop-ups for such things as adding additional information. A
good example, is a select list with the option of clicking on "new" to
create an additional entry in the list.

I've found that my users prefer to fill out forms all on one page, with pop
ups for supplementary information.
You may notice that Outlook Express "pops up" a new window when you hit
reply.

Tom B

"William Tasso" <ne****@tbdata.com> wrote in message
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Ed wrote:
read article:

http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...ry/Technology/

How will this impact legitimate web application


it won't - applications created for use on the www don't use pop-ups
pop-up windows, or
web apps that make use of their own custom error alert dialogs? i.e.
javascript window.open()


does anybody still let javascript do that in their browser? why?

--
William Tasso - http://WilliamTasso.com

Jul 19 '05 #5
On Tue, 25 Nov 2003 23:57:34 -0000, "William Tasso"
<ne****@tbdata.com> wrote:
Ed wrote:
read article:

http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...ry/Technology/

How will this impact legitimate web application


it won't - applications created for use on the www don't use pop-ups
pop-up windows, or
web apps that make use of their own custom error alert dialogs? i.e.
javascript window.open()


does anybody still let javascript do that in their browser? why?


Yes they do. Any number of reasons. Believe it or not, it is not up to
us to decide what is an appropriate use of user interface. We may not
like it, but that's why there is chocolate and vanilla. In the end, if
it can be done, it will be. Popups are common and many feel that it
emulates how a "normal" Windows app would function. Either way, if the
feature is there, it makes it difficult if it is pulled out for
whatever reason - even if it is "obvious" to others.
Jul 19 '05 #6
"William Tasso" <ne****@tbdata.com> wrote:
Ed wrote:
read article:

http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...ry/Technology/

How will this impact legitimate web application


it won't - applications created for use on the www don't use pop-ups


I beg to differ. Mine do.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Sl********@bls.gov
Jul 19 '05 #7
ditto

granted most of mine are Intranet apps, but window.open()
is very usefull in legitimate apps.

-----Original Message-----
"William Tasso" <ne****@tbdata.com> wrote:
Ed wrote:
read article:
http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...GAM.20031124.g tpopnov24/BNStory/Technology/

How will this impact legitimate web application


it won't - applications created for use on the www don't

use pop-ups
I beg to differ. Mine do.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Sl********@bls.gov
.

Jul 19 '05 #8
Ed
Can you elaborate on the differences between requested and unrequested
windows?
"Dave Anderson" <GT**********@spammotel.com> wrote in message
news:u$**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl...
http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...ry/Technology/
What's a pop-up ad?

How will this impact legitimate web application pop-up
windows, or web apps that make use of their own custom
error alert dialogs? i.e. javascript window.open()
Assuming MS implements pop-up blocking in a similar manner to that

performed by Mozilla, it shouldn't have much effect on applications. Mozilla blocks
"unrequested" windows, and I have found it to be quite accurate at
differentiating between requested and unrequested windows.

I haven't seen a pop-up/under ad in a very long time, and I have yet to
notice an application that broke as a result (though I can envision how it
might happen).

Jul 19 '05 #9
"Ed" wrote:

Can you elaborate on the differences between requested
and unrequested windows?


It essentially boils down to the triggering event. Such events as
window.onload do not qualify as "requests", whereas most .onclick events do.
I am not in possession of a comprehensive list.

--
Dave Anderson

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me directly or ask me to contact you directly for assistance. If your
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Jul 19 '05 #10
Ed
What exactly does ad blockers do anyway? What particular Javascript code is
it looking for and filtering?

"Tim Slattery" <Sl********@bls.gov> wrote in message
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"William Tasso" <ne****@tbdata.com> wrote:
Ed wrote:
read article:

http://www.globeandmail.ca/servlet/s...nov24/BNStory/

Technology/

How will this impact legitimate web application


it won't - applications created for use on the www don't use pop-ups


I beg to differ. Mine do.

--
Tim Slattery
MS MVP(DTS)
Sl********@bls.gov

Jul 19 '05 #11

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