Text Color Based on DB Value

[Chris Stanley]

I am using dreamweaver to make an ASP page. I have a table of data
from a MSSQL database that is currently showing on the ASP page. I
want the ability to change the color based on a priority number that's
in the MSSQL database (same recordset that the data comes from). I
don't have the priority field out on the page but can put it out if
need be. I have 3 different priority numbers and if the first row is
priority 1 I want the font to be red and if the second row is priority
2 I want the color to be yellow and so on.

Thanks

Chris

[Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]]

col = rs("priority")
if col = 1 then
fontcolor = "#FF0000"
elseif col = 2 then
fontcolor = "#FFFF00"
end if
response.write "<span style='color:" & fontcolor & "'>" & stuff & "</span>"

"Chris Stanley" <ch**********@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am using dreamweaver to make an ASP page. I have a table of data
from a MSSQL database that is currently showing on the ASP page. I
want the ability to change the color based on a priority number that's
in the MSSQL database (same recordset that the data comes from). I
don't have the priority field out on the page but can put it out if
need be. I have 3 different priority numbers and if the first row is
priority 1 I want the font to be red and if the second row is priority
2 I want the color to be yellow and so on.

Thanks

Chris

[Chris Stanley]

Thanks for the quick response. Is there a certain place I need to put
this code???

Chris

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

"Chris Stanley" <ch**********@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I am using dreamweaver to make an ASP page.
8|
I have a table of data
from a MSSQL database that is currently showing on the ASP page. I
want the ability to change the color based on a priority number that's
in the MSSQL database (same recordset that the data comes from). I
don't have the priority field out on the page but can put it out if
need be. I have 3 different priority numbers and if the first row is
priority 1 I want the font to be red and if the second row is priority
2 I want the color to be yellow and so on.

You could use the priority number in your CSS class name like so:
<style type="text/css">
tr.priority1 { background-color: #ff0000; }
tr.priority2 { background-color: #ffff00; }
tr.priorityAndSoOn { background-color: #AndSoOn; }
</style>
<%
Do While Not yourRS.EOF
sPriority = yourRS.Fields.Item("Priority").Value & "")
%>
<tr class="priority<%=sPriority%>">
<td><%=yourRS.Fields.Item("something").Value%></td>
...
</tr>
<%
yourRS.MoveNext
Loop
%>

Ray at work

[Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]]

> Thanks for the quick response. Is there a certain place I need to put

this code???

Uh, well, probably inside the loop...

[Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]]

> tr.priority1 { background-color: #ff0000; }

tr.priority2 { background-color: #ffff00; }

Ooh, I like that approach even better than my suggestion.

I get light-headed when I see HTML code that is half <font color=#blah>
tags... especially when they're all the same. I always find myself pounding
my head against the wall, dying to ask when they're going to look up this
"CSS" concept they may have heard about.

[Chris Stanley]

I'm very new to CSS, is this something DWeaver can do in the CSS
Styles??? or do I need to just use the code above??

Chris

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

I'm trying my best always to use CSS, but it gets my goat. Unless I'm
missing something, not ~every~ inline attribute has a CSS equivalent, and
that's frustrating!

Ray at work

"Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" <te*****@dnartreb.noraa> wrote in message
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tr.priority1 { background-color: #ff0000; }
tr.priority2 { background-color: #ffff00; }
Ooh, I like that approach even better than my suggestion.

I get light-headed when I see HTML code that is half <font color=#blah>
tags... especially when they're all the same. I always find myself

pounding my head against the wall, dying to ask when they're going to look up this
"CSS" concept they may have heard about.

[Chris Stanley]

I haven't gotten anything to work so far. I'm probably doing something
wrong. I tried the first code but no color changes. I didn't try the
CSS b/c I don't really know what to do with it. I am very new to this.

Chris

[Chris Hohmann]

"Chris Stanley" <ch**********@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I haven't gotten anything to work so far. I'm probably doing something
wrong. I tried the first code but no color changes. I didn't try the
CSS b/c I don't really know what to do with it. I am very new to this.

Can you show us the code you have thus far?

[Chris Hohmann]

"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote in
message news:eU**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

I'm trying my best always to use CSS, but it gets my goat. Unless I'm
missing something, not ~every~ inline attribute has a CSS equivalent, and
that's frustrating!

Are you just going to leave us hanging like that!? :) What inline display
attribute is not represented in CSS? Also, which version of CSS are we
talking about 1, 2, 2.1, 3? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Chris Stanley]

OK, here's my code:

<html>
<head>
<title>Surry County E-911 Active Calls</title>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html;
charset=iso-8859-1">
<style type="text/css">
<!--
-->
</style>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
-->
</style>
<meta http-equiv="Refresh" content="30">
</head>

<body bgcolor="#000000">
<div align="center">
<p><font color="#FFFFFF" size="7" face="Tahoma">Surry County E-911
Active Calls</font></p>
<p>&nbsp;</p>

<p><font color="#FF0000"> </MM:DECORATION></font></p>
<table width="97%" border="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td width="14%"><div align="left"><font color="#FF0000" size="5"
face="Tahoma">Call
Number</font></div></td>
<td width="16%"><div align="left"><font color="#FF0000" size="5"
face="Tahoma">Complaint</font></div></td>
<td width="38%"><div align="left"><font color="#FF0000" size="5"
face="Tahoma">Incident
Location</font></div></td>
<td width="18%"><div align="left"><font color="#FF0000" size="5"
face="Tahoma">City</font></div></td>
<td width="14%"><div align="left"><font color="#FF0000" size="5"
face="Tahoma">
Unit</font></div></td>
</tr>
</table>
<hr>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<MM_REPEATEDREGION NAME="Repeat1" SOURCE="Recordset1"><MM:DECORATION
OUTLINE="Repeat" OUTLINEID=1>
<%
While ((Repeat1__numRows <> 0) AND (NOT Recordset1.EOF))
%>
<table width="97%" border="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td width="15%"><font color="#00FFFF"><strong><font size="3"
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Call_Num ber").Value)%></font></strong></font></td>
<td width="16%"><font color="#00FFFF"><strong><font size="3"
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Complain t").Value)%></font></strong></font></td>
<td width="38%"><div align="left"><font color="#00FFFF"
size="3"><strong><font
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Actual_I ncid_Location").Value)%></font></strong></font></div></td>
<td width="18%"><font color="#00FFFF"><strong><font size="3"
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Actual_I ncid_City").Value)%></font></strong></font></td>
<td width="13%"><font color="#00FFFF"><strong><font size="3"
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("First_Un it").Value)%></font></strong></font></td>
</tr>
</table>
<%

Repeat1__index=Repeat1__index+1
Repeat1__numRows=Repeat1__numRows-1
Recordset1.MoveNext()
Wend
%>
<font color="#FF0000"> </font>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p align="left"><font color="#FFFFFF" size="5" face="Tahoma">Total
Active Calls:
<%=(Recordset1_total)%></font></p>
<p align="left">&nbsp;</p>

</div>
</body>
</html>
<%
Recordset1.Close()
Set Recordset1 = Nothing
%>
Thanks

Chris

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

Well, in a way I spoke too soon. I guess I was thinking of cellpadding and
cellspacing, but I do understand that the padding and margin of the ~cells~
replace those! But what about something as basic AND COMMON as <table
align="center">?

I think what I'm most upset about is the fact that a span can't have a width
(strictly speaking). I hate that.

Ray at home

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"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote in
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I'm trying my best always to use CSS, but it gets my goat. Unless I'm
missing something, not ~every~ inline attribute has a CSS equivalent, and
that's frustrating!

Are you just going to leave us hanging like that!? :) What inline display
attribute is not represented in CSS? Also, which version of CSS are we
talking about 1, 2, 2.1, 3? Inquiring minds want to know.

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

I don't see anything that's an attempt to change colors. ?? I think your
first step would be to get rid of those <font> tags you have. How about:

<style type="text/css">
tr.priority1 { background-color: #ff0000; }
tr.priority2 { background-color: #ffff00; }
</style>

<table width="97%" border="0" align="center">
<tr class="priority<%=Recordset1.Fields.Item("Priority ").Value%>">
<td
width="15%"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Call_Numbe r").Value)%></td>
<td width="16%"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Complaint" ).Value)%></td>
<td
width="38%"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Actual_Inc id_Location").Value)%></td>
<td
width="18%"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Actual_Inc id_City").Value)%></td>
<td width="13%"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("First_Unit ").Value)%></td>
</tr>
</table>
I know this is easier said than done, but your first step actually ought to
be to stop using Dreamweaver for code writing. If you want to use it for
design, that's one thing, but it shouldn't be used for ASP code, imo.

Ray at home

"Chris Stanley" <ch**********@gmail.com> wrote in message
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<MM_REPEATEDREGION NAME="Repeat1" SOURCE="Recordset1"><MM:DECORATION
OUTLINE="Repeat" OUTLINEID=1>
<%
While ((Repeat1__numRows <> 0) AND (NOT Recordset1.EOF))
%>
<table width="97%" border="0" align="center">
<tr>
<td width="15%"><font color="#00FFFF"><strong><font size="3"
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Call_Num ber").Value)%></font></strong></font></td>
<td width="16%"><font color="#00FFFF"><strong><font size="3"
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Complain t").Value)%></font></strong></font></td>
<td width="38%"><div align="left"><font color="#00FFFF"
size="3"><strong><font
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Actual_I ncid_Location").Value)%></font></strong></font></div></td>
<td width="18%"><font color="#00FFFF"><strong><font size="3"
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("Actual_I ncid_City").Value)%></font></strong></font></td>
<td width="13%"><font color="#00FFFF"><strong><font size="3"
face="Tahoma"><%=(Recordset1.Fields.Item("First_Un it").Value)%></font></strong></font></td>
</tr>
</table>
<%

Repeat1__index=Repeat1__index+1
Repeat1__numRows=Repeat1__numRows-1
Recordset1.MoveNext()
Wend
%>
<font color="#FF0000"> </font>
<p>&nbsp;</p>
<p align="left"><font color="#FFFFFF" size="5" face="Tahoma">Total
Active Calls:
<%=(Recordset1_total)%></font></p>
<p align="left">&nbsp;</p>

[Adrienne]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first
name at lane 34 dot commercial> writing in
news:#v**************@TK2MSFTNGP12.phx.gbl:

Well, in a way I spoke too soon. I guess I was thinking of cellpadding
and cellspacing, but I do understand that the padding and margin of the
~cells~ replace those! But what about something as basic AND COMMON as
<table align="center">?
table {text-align:center} /*centers the table content */
table {margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; width:whatever} /* centers the
~table~ in the viewport*/

I think what I'm most upset about is the fact that a span can't have a
width (strictly speaking).
Span is an inline element, you really wouldn't want it to have width. But,
you can always use display:block and then set a width. There is also
display:table-inline, etc., but these some of these are not supported by
our favorite browser. I very rarely use span, I usually style the element.
I hate that.
What I really hate is max and min width not supported by IE, position:fixed
not supported by IE, hover pseudo class only working for the A element in
IE, alpha transparency in PNGs not supported by IE. If I could, I would go
to everyone's Windows computer, remove IE, and replace it with Opera or
Firefox.


Ray at home

"Chris Hohmann" <no****@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote
in message news:eU**************@tk2msftngp13.phx.gbl...

I'm trying my best always to use CSS, but it gets my goat. Unless
I'm missing something, not ~every~ inline attribute has a CSS
equivalent, and that's frustrating!

Are you just going to leave us hanging like that!? :) What inline
display attribute is not represented in CSS? Also, which version of
CSS are we talking about 1, 2, 2.1, 3? Inquiring minds want to know.

--
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http://www.cavalcade-of-coding.info
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[Chris Stanley]

That did it. Thanks for the help.

Chris

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

"Adrienne" <ar********@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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table {text-align:center} /*centers the table content */
table {margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; width:whatever} /* centers the
~table~ in the viewport*/
The margin one is the work-around that I would typically use, but then I
decide that it just makes 100 times more sense to stop being so absolute and
just use the inline align="center" attribute, as much as I hate to do it.

I think what I'm most upset about is the fact that a span can't have a
width (strictly speaking).
Span is an inline element, you really wouldn't want it to have width.

But, you can always use display:block and then set a width. There is also
display:table-inline, etc., but these some of these are not supported by
our favorite browser. I very rarely use span, I usually style the element.

I understand why the span doesn't have a width, but I disagree with it. And
as far as the display:block, that kinda defeats the purpose of the span.
Also, if you want to get technical, I want to say that as soon as you do a
display:inline to a block element like a table, that will void any width
styles in strict browsers. 8[

I hate that.
What I really hate is max and min width not supported by IE,

position:fixed not supported by IE, hover pseudo class only working for the A element in
IE, alpha transparency in PNGs not supported by IE. If I could, I would go to everyone's Windows computer, remove IE, and replace it with Opera or
Firefox.

I'm just going to start writing console applications. :]

Rya at work

[Chris Hohmann]

"Adrienne" <ar********@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:Xn****************************@207.115.63.158 ...

What I really hate is max and min width not supported by IE,
position:fixed
not supported by IE, hover pseudo class only working for the A element in
IE, alpha transparency in PNGs not supported by IE. If I could, I would
go
to everyone's Windows computer, remove IE, and replace it with Opera or
Firefox.

Amen to that! Just give us hover pseudo class support for lists and I'd be
satisfied. We could then do away with JavaScript menus altogether. Hopefully
the powers that be are listening. :) Here's a CSS/DHTML hybrid that uses
behaviors to add support for Internet Explorer, if anyone is interested.

http://www.brothercake.com/scripts/navmeister/page.php

[Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]]

> I understand why the span doesn't have a width, but I disagree with it.

If it's a <div> then use a <div>. A span is contained within another
element that has some kind of defined width. If you need to define widths
inside that way, then as much as I hate to suggest it, I would say use a
table instead (or the very complex kind of CSS that properly replicates a
table, but in a much more cumbersome fashion).

[Dave Anderson]

Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:

I'm trying my best always to use CSS, but it gets my goat.
Unless I'm missing something, not ~every~ inline attribute
has a CSS equivalent, and that's frustrating!

This is perhaps my single biggest gripe with Internet Explorer's stagnation.
There are many CSS features already implemented in other browsers that IE
still does not understand. And that effectively renders them nonexistent
unless authors are willing to ignore IE users.

The blame for your frustration regarding CSS, then, lies squarely with
Microsoft, not with CSS itself.
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[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

I usually do wind up using tables when I'm trying to avoid doing so. I
can't use a DIV in place of where I want a span with a width, because I'm
wanting an inline element with a width specified. Like:

<style type="text/css">
div.tabs span { width: 200px; border: 1px solid #000000; }
</style>

<div class="tabs">
<span>Tab 1</span>
<span>Tab 2</span>
<span>This is Tab #3</span>
</div>

Since the width won't be honored in strict browsers, I do wind up throwing
it in a table. (Perhaps this isn't the best example.) Again, though,
there's nothing wrong with tables. It's just kinda, uh, fun to try to not
use them.

Ray at work
"Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" <te*****@dnartreb.noraa> wrote in message
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I understand why the span doesn't have a width, but I disagree with it.

If it's a <div> then use a <div>. A span is contained within another
element that has some kind of defined width. If you need to define widths
inside that way, then as much as I hate to suggest it, I would say use a
table instead (or the very complex kind of CSS that properly replicates a
table, but in a much more cumbersome fashion).

[Dave Anderson]

Adrienne wrote:

table {margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; width:whatever} /*
centers the ~table~ in the viewport*/

Unless you use a STRICT doctype, Internet Explorer *still* will not center a
table with "auto" margins unless its container has a text-align:center
attribute. Fortunately, IE will let you put this on BODY or HTML.
Unfortunately, IE does some funny inheritance stuff if you do.
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[Dave Anderson]

Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:

I usually do wind up using tables when I'm trying to avoid
doing so. I can't use a DIV in place of where I want a span
with a width, because I'm wanting an inline element with a
width specified. Like:

<style type="text/css">
div.tabs span { width: 200px; border: 1px solid #000000; }
</style>

<div class="tabs">
<span>Tab 1</span>
<span>Tab 2</span>
<span>This is Tab #3</span>
</div>

Since the width won't be honored in strict browsers, I do
wind up throwing it in a table. (Perhaps this isn't the best
example.) Again, though, there's nothing wrong with tables.
It's just kinda, uh, fun to try to not use them.

I agree that this isn't a great example, since you could certainly use DIV
elements instead of SPAN here:

<style type="text/css">
div.tabs div { width:200px; float:left; ... }
</style>

<div class="tabs">
<div>Tab 1</div>
<div>Tab 2</div>
<div>This is Tab #3</div>
</div>

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[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

I'm not a "blame Microsoft for everything" kind of guy. They are absolutely
at fault for some things though. But I'm not speaking of that. I'm
speaking of what I don't like about strict CSS. I dislike IE for honoring
something like <span style="width: 200px;">, but at the same time, I curse
the W3C for not making that a standard. So, in this case, my frustration is
with CSS.

Ray at work

"Dave Anderson" <GT**********@spammotel.com> wrote in message
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This is perhaps my single biggest gripe with Internet Explorer's stagnation. There are many CSS features already implemented in other browsers that IE
still does not understand. And that effectively renders them nonexistent
unless authors are willing to ignore IE users.

The blame for your frustration regarding CSS, then, lies squarely with
Microsoft, not with CSS itself.

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

NICE!

Ray at work

"Dave Anderson" <GT**********@spammotel.com> wrote in message
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I agree that this isn't a great example, since you could certainly use DIV
elements instead of SPAN here:

<style type="text/css">
div.tabs div { width:200px; float:left; ... }
</style>

<div class="tabs">
<div>Tab 1</div>
<div>Tab 2</div>
<div>This is Tab #3</div>
</div>

[Dave Anderson]

Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:

I dislike IE for honoring something like <span style="width:
200px;">, but at the same time, I curse the W3C for not
making that a standard.
The W3C actually *does* make it a standard. You can put a width attribute on
a SPAN as long as its display attribute is "block". And honestly, width
doesn't make sense unless it's a block element, does it?
So, in this case, my frustration is with CSS.

Not so fast, Ray! CSS isn't the problem.
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[Adrienne]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Dave Anderson"
<GT**********@spammotel.com> writing in
news:11*************@corp.supernews.com:

Ray Costanzo [MVP] wrote:

I usually do wind up using tables when I'm trying to avoid
doing so. I can't use a DIV in place of where I want a span
with a width, because I'm wanting an inline element with a
width specified. Like:

<style type="text/css">
div.tabs span { width: 200px; border: 1px solid #000000; } </style>

<div class="tabs">
<span>Tab 1</span>
<span>Tab 2</span>
<span>This is Tab #3</span> </div>

Since the width won't be honored in strict browsers, I do
wind up throwing it in a table. (Perhaps this isn't the best
example.) Again, though, there's nothing wrong with tables.
It's just kinda, uh, fun to try to not use them.

I agree that this isn't a great example, since you could certainly use
DIV elements instead of SPAN here:

<style type="text/css">
div.tabs div { width:200px; float:left; ... }
</style>

<div class="tabs">
<div>Tab 1</div>
<div>Tab 2</div>
<div>This is Tab #3</div>
</div>

I think a lot of people get unhappy with CSS because they are not using
semantic markup in the first place. That's how we wound up with tag soup
in the beginning, and now we have CSS soup instead.

If you use markup that pertains to the structure of a document, there
aren't that many places to go wrong. The example above looks like a list,
so I would use list markup and style the elements accordingly, eg:

ul {border:1px solid #000; list-style-type:none; padding:1em;}
ul li {width:200px; float:left; text-align:center; border-right:1px solid
#c0c0c0;}

<ul>
<li>Apples</li>
<li>Oranges</li>
<li style="border:0">Grapes</li>
</ul>

and you would come up with something like:
Apples | Oranges | Grapes

Of course my favorite use of CSS is to produce GreenBar tables where I have
a colora and colorb classes defined in an external stylesheet, and this
markup:
<% if counter mod 2 = 0 then
theclass = "colora"
else
theclass = "colorb"
end if
%>
<tr class="<%=theclass%>">
<td>data</td>
</tr>
<% 'continue loop and update counter %>

external sheet:
..colora {background-color:#fff; color:#000;}
..colorb {background-color:#f0fff0; color:#000;}

What's so great about that is consistency for the entire site. If I want
to change it to blue bar, I just need to change the colora and colorb
classes in the external sheet, and voila! the whole site is changed.
--
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[Adrienne]

Gazing into my crystal ball I observed "Dave Anderson"
<GT**********@spammotel.com> writing in
news:11*************@corp.supernews.com:

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assistance. If your question is worth asking, it's worth posting.

Dave, I love that signature. Do you mind if I borrow it, and change it
slightly, maybe charge less, say $300?

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[Bob Lehmann]

>> I'm not a "blame Microsoft for everything" kind of guy.
Few of us are. But, who else would you blame for IE being 5+ years old, and
severely out of touch?

I curse the W3C for not making that a standard. Why should the W3C necessarily follow IE extensions/aberrations?
Myself, I'm upset with W3C for not making <blink> standard :>).

Bob Lehmann

"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote in
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I'm not a "blame Microsoft for everything" kind of guy. They are absolutely at fault for some things though. But I'm not speaking of that. I'm
speaking of what I don't like about strict CSS. I dislike IE for honoring
something like <span style="width: 200px;">, but at the same time, I curse
the W3C for not making that a standard. So, in this case, my frustration is with CSS.

Ray at work

"Dave Anderson" <GT**********@spammotel.com> wrote in message
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This is perhaps my single biggest gripe with Internet Explorer's

stagnation.

There are many CSS features already implemented in other browsers that

IE still does not understand. And that effectively renders them nonexistent
unless authors are willing to ignore IE users.

The blame for your frustration regarding CSS, then, lies squarely with
Microsoft, not with CSS itself.

[Dave Anderson]

Adrienne wrote:

Dave, I love that signature. Do you mind if I borrow it,
and change it slightly, maybe charge less, say $300?

I don't mind in the least. One of my best friends is a lawyer, and he thinks
I have grounds to collect, as I have always used this address (which is
legitimate) with the disclaimer. Maybe one day, I will test the legal
waters.

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Just make sure that you only go after the people who sent you the
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"Dave Anderson" <GT**********@spammotel.com> wrote in message
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Adrienne wrote:

Dave, I love that signature. Do you mind if I borrow it,
and change it slightly, maybe charge less, say $300?
I don't mind in the least. One of my best friends is a lawyer, and he

thinks I have grounds to collect, as I have always used this address (which is
legitimate) with the disclaimer. Maybe one day, I will test the legal
waters.

--
Dave Anderson

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[Chris Hohmann]

"Chris Hohmann" <no****@thankyou.com> wrote in message
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[snip tirade about IE CSS support]

Hopefully the powers that be are listening. :)

Looks like they were listening.
http://blogs.msdn.com/ie/archive/2005/07/29/445242.aspx

Okay, if you guys are still listening, I'd also like a pound of $20's.