Explain this (if you dare)

[Jordan]

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I need
to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and I
tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex
code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the values
and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began
trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing
worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12) Then...and
IT FAILED!!!!

I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not
validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since changed
my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.

I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.

[Beverley]

Did you actually put literally "if 12 = 12", or did you set the values of
your two variables both to 12?

I would try puting cSng around tuition as well, just to be absolutely sure
it's not being sneaky on you there...
If (CSng(ccTuition) <> CSng(tuition)) Then

If that fails, reboot. :)

Beverley
"Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I need
to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and I
tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex
code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the values and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began
trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing
worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12) Then...and IT FAILED!!!!

I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not
validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since changed my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.

I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.

[Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]]

> Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12) Then...and > IT

FAILED!!!!

Did you copy and paste these values from another source?

If so, it is possible that there are non-printing characters that VBScript
can see and that you cannot.

If not, there are ghosts in your machine. I cannot find a way to make ASP
evaluate (12 = 12) to false.

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

If CSng(ccTuition) <> CSng(tution) Then

What does that do? What does "failed" mean? Do you get an error?

Ray at work

"Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I need
to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and I
tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex
code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the values and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began
trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing
worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12) Then...and IT FAILED!!!!

I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not
validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since changed my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.

I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.

[Jordan]

Both actually. And I did try the CSng around both variables. All failed.

I might have to reboot, for lack of any else to do.

Thanks, j
"Beverley" <al**********@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP10.phx.gbl...

Did you actually put literally "if 12 = 12", or did you set the values of
your two variables both to 12?

I would try puting cSng around tuition as well, just to be absolutely sure
it's not being sneaky on you there...
If (CSng(ccTuition) <> CSng(tuition)) Then

If that fails, reboot. :)

Beverley
"Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I
need
to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and
I
tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex
code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the

values

and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began
trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing
worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12)

Then...and

IT FAILED!!!!

I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not
validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since

changed

my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.

I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.

[Jordan]

No I didn't, and it shouldn't be non-printing characters. I deleted,
re-typed, re-typed from scratch, etc.

Honestly, I tried everything (that I can think of at least) to understand
what could possibly be wrong.

Thanks, j

"Aaron Bertrand [SQL Server MVP]" <te*****@dnartreb.noraa> wrote in message
news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12) Then...and > IT
FAILED!!!!

Did you copy and paste these values from another source?

If so, it is possible that there are non-printing characters that VBScript
can see and that you cannot.

If not, there are ghosts in your machine. I cannot find a way to make ASP
evaluate (12 = 12) to false.

[Jordan]

Fails. Fails means it evaluates to false, when it should be true. No error,
becuase it does compile and evaulate to a condition, just the wrong
condition!

Thanks, j
"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote in
message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

If CSng(ccTuition) <> CSng(tution) Then

What does that do? What does "failed" mean? Do you get an error?

Ray at work

"Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I
need
to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and
I
tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex
code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the

values

and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began
trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing
worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12)

Then...and

IT FAILED!!!!

I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not
validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since

changed

my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.

I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.

[Brian Staff]

Re-install windows!

[Ray Costanzo [MVP]]

Alright, then I guess the values ARE equal since "if <>" evaluates to false.

If 1 <> 1 Then
''true condition
Else
''False condition - this is what will be executed
End If

Ray at work

"Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
news:Op**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Fails. Fails means it evaluates to false, when it should be true. No error, becuase it does compile and evaulate to a condition, just the wrong
condition!

Thanks, j
"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote in
message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

If CSng(ccTuition) <> CSng(tution) Then

What does that do? What does "failed" mean? Do you get an error?

Ray at work

"Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I
need
to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and I
tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the

values

and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12)

Then...and

IT FAILED!!!!

I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since

changed

my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.

I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.

[!TG]

Jordan wrote:

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I need
to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and I
tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex
code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the values
and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began
trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing
worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12) Then...and
IT FAILED!!!!

I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not
validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since changed
my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.

I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.

Just a quick question.. If ccTuition is anything but tuition, that is
when the code should run?

[Dave Anderson]

Jordan wrote:

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I
need to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications
and I tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is
(very complex code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

What are TypeName(ccTuition) and TypeName(tuition), respectively?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...cttypename.asp
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[Matt]

what type of error are you receiving?

[Jordan]

No error message. It works system wise, just not logic wise. See my reply to
Ray Costanzo as I'm going to clarify.

"Matt" <ma***********@manning-napier.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@o13g2000cwo.googlegr oups.com...

what type of error are you receiving?

[Jordan]

Yes, you have it correct, but I responded to quickly and didn't proof my
response - my apologies. That's what I get for posting/replying to messages
today, it's quite hectic.

My statement should evaluate False, but it evalutes to True.

Anyway, your example is correct. "1 <> 1" should evaluate to false since 1
does equal 1. That's the issue I'm having. My line of code "If
CSng(ccTuition) <> tution" evaluted to True, but it in-fact was false,
becuase both values were equal. That's why the application wasn't working to
completion, becuase it got stuck evaluting to True when it should've been
False.

All the combinations too, evaluted to True (using CSng, CDbl, etc.).

I'm rebooting tonight and going to try to use this old code again. Honestly,
I love ASP, but this is the oddest thing I've ever seen.

Jordan

"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote in
message news:eb**************@TK2MSFTNGP14.phx.gbl...

Alright, then I guess the values ARE equal since "if <>" evaluates to
false.

If 1 <> 1 Then
''true condition
Else
''False condition - this is what will be executed
End If

Ray at work

"Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
news:Op**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Fails. Fails means it evaluates to false, when it should be true. No

error,

becuase it does compile and evaulate to a condition, just the wrong
condition!

Thanks, j
"Ray Costanzo [MVP]" <my first name at lane 34 dot commercial> wrote in
message news:%2****************@TK2MSFTNGP15.phx.gbl...

> If CSng(ccTuition) <> CSng(tution) Then
>
> What does that do? What does "failed" mean? Do you get an error?
>
> Ray at work
>
> "Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
> news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...
>> Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I
>> need
>> to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.
>>
>> Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and >> I
>> tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex >> code to follow):
>>
>> <code>
>>
>> If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then
>>
>> </code>
>>
>> Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the
> values
>> and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began >> trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing >> worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12)
> Then...and
>> IT FAILED!!!!
>>
>> I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not >> validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since
> changed
>> my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.
>>
>> I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.
>>
>>
>
>

[Jordan]

> Just a quick question.. If ccTuition is anything but tuition, that is when

the code should run?

Yes. If ccTuition <> Tuition, it should be true. If they are equal (which
they were), it should return false.

[Jordan]

>

What are TypeName(ccTuition) and TypeName(tuition), respectively?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...cttypename.asp

I didn't even get that far, nor did I need to. When 12 <> 12 returned True,
I felt my grasp on logic slip away and I posted my message. This code was
also working since day one, it just started today to freak out.

[Jordan]

I wanted to reply again since I was curious myself: Here's as simple view:

Response.Write(ccTuition & "<br>")
Response.Write(total & "<br>")
Response.Write(TypeName(ccTuition) & "<br>")
Response.Write(TypeName(total) & "<br>")
Response.Write(ccTuition <> total & "<br>")
'and my favorite!
Response.Write(12 <> 12)

The output is:

2238
2238
Single
Single
True
True

<sigh>

[Dave Anderson]

Jordan wrote:

What are TypeName(ccTuition) and TypeName(tuition), respectively?
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en...cttypename.asp

I didn't even get that far, nor did I need to. When 12 <> 12 returned
True, I felt my grasp on logic slip away and I posted my message.
This code was also working since day one, it just started today to
freak out.

Why don't you answer the question?

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me directly or ask me to contact you directly for assistance. If your
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[Joe Iano]

Just a thought: How does this behave:
If Not (CSng(ccTuition) = tuition) Then
"Jordan" <jf*****@learn.colostate.edu> wrote in message
news:uE**************@TK2MSFTNGP09.phx.gbl...

Let me just start by saying I'm a very accomplished ASP programmer. I need
to rely on that becuase this error boggles the mind.

Just today, I had to troubleshoot an error in one of my applications and I
tracked it down to a single condition statement. Here it is (very complex
code to follow):

<code>

If (CSng(ccTuition) <> tuition) Then

</code>

Again, just today, this line started to disfunction. I validated the values and they're 100% accurate. I use singles to account for decimals. I began
trying different combinations, using CDbl and other conversions. Nothing
worked. Then (and this is the best part), I tried: If (12 = 12) Then...and IT FAILED!!!!

I can't even begin to fathom this issue, not only does the condition not
validate, but it just started happening out of the blue. I've since changed my statement to a string comparison becuase nothing else was working.

I'm going to lunch, boggled as ever.

[Jordan]

Well, a server reboot last night has re(solved) the issue. At the very
least, I can move on...

thanks for all the responses, j