How To Rebuild Objects From Text Files?

[Wayne]

I've read that one method of repairing a misbehaving database is to
save all database objects as text and then rebuild them from the text
files. I've used the following code posted by Lyle Fairfield to
accomplish the first step:

Private Sub SaveObjectsAsText()
path = CurrentProject.path & "\ObjectsAsText\"
SaveDataAccessPagesAsText
SaveFormsAsText
SaveReportsAsText
SaveModulesAsText
MsgBox "All Done Saving Access Objects as Text"
End Sub
Private Sub SaveDataAccessPagesAsText()
Dim FileName As String
Dim Name As String
Dim DataAccessPage As AccessObject
For Each DataAccessPage In CurrentProject.AllDataAccessPages
Name = DataAccessPages.Name
FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
SaveAsText acDataAccessPage, Name, FileName
Next DataAccessPage
MsgBox "All Done Saving Data Access Pages as Text"
End Sub
Private Sub SaveFormsAsText()
Dim FileName As String
Dim Name As String
Dim Form As AccessObject
For Each Form In CurrentProject.AllForms
Name = Form.Name
FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
SaveAsText acForm, Name, FileName
Next Form
MsgBox "All Done Saving Forms as Text"
End Sub
Private Sub SaveReportsAsText()
Dim FileName As String
Dim Name As String
Dim Report As AccessObject
For Each Report In CurrentProject.AllReports
Name = Report.Name
FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
SaveAsText acReport, Name, FileName
Next Report
MsgBox "All Done Saving Reports as Text"
End Sub
Private Sub SaveModulesAsText()
Dim FileName As String
Dim Name As String
Dim Module As AccessObject
For Each Module In CurrentProject.AllModules
Name = Module.Name
FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
SaveAsText acModule, Name, FileName
Next Module
MsgBox "All Done Saving Modules as Text"
End Sub

How do I then rebuild the database objects from the text files that
have been created?

[lyle fairfield]

On May 9, 5:11*am, Wayne <[e-mail]:

I've read that one method of repairing a misbehaving database is to
save all database objects as text and then rebuild them from the text
files. *I've used the following code posted by Lyle Fairfield to
accomplish the first step:

Private Sub SaveObjectsAsText()
* * path = CurrentProject.path & "\ObjectsAsText\"
* * SaveDataAccessPagesAsText
* * SaveFormsAsText
* * SaveReportsAsText
* * SaveModulesAsText
* * MsgBox "All Done Saving Access Objects as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveDataAccessPagesAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim DataAccessPage As AccessObject
* * For Each DataAccessPage In CurrentProject.AllDataAccessPages
* * * * Name = DataAccessPages.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acDataAccessPage, Name, FileName
* * Next DataAccessPage
MsgBox "All Done Saving Data Access Pages as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveFormsAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Form As AccessObject
* * For Each Form In CurrentProject.AllForms
* * * * Name = Form.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acForm, Name, FileName
* * Next Form
MsgBox "All Done Saving Forms as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveReportsAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Report As AccessObject
* * For Each Report In CurrentProject.AllReports
* * * * Name = Report.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acReport, Name, FileName
* * Next Report
MsgBox "All Done Saving Reports as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveModulesAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Module As AccessObject
* * For Each Module In CurrentProject.AllModules
* * * * Name = Module.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acModule, Name, FileName
* * Next Module
MsgBox "All Done Saving Modules as Text"
End Sub

How do I then rebuild the database objects from the text files that
have been created?

Did I ever post this half-page? The whole pages can be found at:

http://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_...ts_As_Text.htm
or
http://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_...ts_As_Text.htm

http://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_...ts_As_Text.dat
or
http://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_...ts_As_Text.dat
for download,

Use the whole page or module.

[Rick Brandt]

Wayne wrote:

I've read that one method of repairing a misbehaving database is to
save all database objects as text and then rebuild them from the text
files. I've used the following code posted by Lyle Fairfield to
accomplish the first step:

[snip]

How do I then rebuild the database objects from the text files that
have been created?

Just as there is a SaveAsText() function there is also a LoadFromText()
function. The latter is whaty you would use to rebuild the objects.

--
Rick Brandt, Microsoft Access MVP
Email (as appropriate) to...
RBrandt at Hunter dot com

[lyle fairfield]

On May 9, 5:33*am, lyle fairfield <[e-mail]:

On May 9, 5:11*am, Wayne <[e-mail]:

I've read that one method of repairing a misbehaving database is to
save all database objects as text and then rebuild them from the text
files. *I've used the following code posted by Lyle Fairfield to
accomplish the first step:

Private Sub SaveObjectsAsText()
* * path = CurrentProject.path & "\ObjectsAsText\"
* * SaveDataAccessPagesAsText
* * SaveFormsAsText
* * SaveReportsAsText
* * SaveModulesAsText
* * MsgBox "All Done Saving Access Objects as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveDataAccessPagesAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim DataAccessPage As AccessObject
* * For Each DataAccessPage In CurrentProject.AllDataAccessPages
* * * * Name = DataAccessPages.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn")&
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acDataAccessPage, Name, FileName
* * Next DataAccessPage
MsgBox "All Done Saving Data Access Pages as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveFormsAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Form As AccessObject
* * For Each Form In CurrentProject.AllForms
* * * * Name = Form.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn")&
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acForm, Name, FileName
* * Next Form
MsgBox "All Done Saving Forms as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveReportsAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Report As AccessObject
* * For Each Report In CurrentProject.AllReports
* * * * Name = Report.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn")&
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acReport, Name, FileName
* * Next Report
MsgBox "All Done Saving Reports as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveModulesAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Module As AccessObject
* * For Each Module In CurrentProject.AllModules
* * * * Name = Module.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn")&
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acModule, Name, FileName
* * Next Module
MsgBox "All Done Saving Modules as Text"
End Sub

How do I then rebuild the database objects from the text files that
have been created?

Did I ever post this half-page? The whole pages can be found at:

http://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_...ts_As_Text.htm
orhttp://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_ADP_Objects_As_Text.htm

http://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_...ts_As_Text.dat
orhttp://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_ADP_Objects_As_Text.dat
for download,

Use the whole page or module.

LoadFromText is a hidden and undocumented procedure.
It may be worthwhile to note that
LoadFromText AcObjectType, ObjectName, FilePath
overwrites the object named ObjectName with whatever instructions are
in FilePath.
There is, TTBOMK, NO recovery from this. The old object now belongs to
the ages, but not to you. Over many years LoadFromText has never
failed me, but if I give it wrong or foolish instructions, it carries
them out, without any warning, just as it carries out any other
instructions.
In summary, the making of backups and/or safe copies may be a
worthwhile expenditure of time and resources before using
LoadFromText.
Coincidentally, I am doing that right now, in an effort to change all
"Guidance" objects and references to same, to "StudentSuccess"
objects. Ain't politics grand? I expect that StudentSuccess staff will
be much more effective than Guidance staff.
The first thing I did was to make a safe copy of the ADP (it could
have been MDB) file.

[lyle fairfield]

On May 9, 8:55*am, lyle fairfield <[e-mail]:

On May 9, 5:33*am, lyle fairfield <[e-mail]:

On May 9, 5:11*am, Wayne <[e-mail]:

I've read that one method of repairing a misbehaving database is to
save all database objects as text and then rebuild them from the text
files. *I've used the following code posted by Lyle Fairfield to
accomplish the first step:

Private Sub SaveObjectsAsText()
* * path = CurrentProject.path & "\ObjectsAsText\"
* * SaveDataAccessPagesAsText
* * SaveFormsAsText
* * SaveReportsAsText
* * SaveModulesAsText
* * MsgBox "All Done Saving Access Objects as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveDataAccessPagesAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim DataAccessPage As AccessObject
* * For Each DataAccessPage In CurrentProject.AllDataAccessPages
* * * * Name = DataAccessPages.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acDataAccessPage, Name, FileName
* * Next DataAccessPage
MsgBox "All Done Saving Data Access Pages as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveFormsAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Form As AccessObject
* * For Each Form In CurrentProject.AllForms
* * * * Name = Form.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acForm, Name, FileName
* * Next Form
MsgBox "All Done Saving Forms as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveReportsAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Report As AccessObject
* * For Each Report In CurrentProject.AllReports
* * * * Name = Report.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acReport, Name, FileName
* * Next Report
MsgBox "All Done Saving Reports as Text"
End Sub

Private Sub SaveModulesAsText()
* * Dim FileName As String
* * Dim Name As String
* * Dim Module As AccessObject
* * For Each Module In CurrentProject.AllModules
* * * * Name = Module.Name
* * * * FileName = path & Name & Format(Now(), "yyyymmddhhnn") &
".txt"
* * * * SaveAsText acModule, Name, FileName
* * Next Module
MsgBox "All Done Saving Modules as Text"
End Sub

How do I then rebuild the database objects from the text files that
have been created?

Did I ever post this half-page? The whole pages can be found at:

http://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_...ts_As_Text.htm
orhttp://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_ADP_Objects_As_Text.htm

http://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_...ts_As_Text.dat
orhttp://www.ffdba.com/downloads/Save_ADP_Objects_As_Text.dat
for download,

Use the whole page or module.

LoadFromText is a hidden and undocumented procedure.
It may be worthwhile to note that
LoadFromText AcObjectType, ObjectName, FilePath
overwrites the object named ObjectName with whatever instructions are
in FilePath.
There is, TTBOMK, NO recovery from this. The old object now belongs to
the ages, but not to you. Over many years LoadFromText has never
failed me, but if I give it wrong or foolish instructions, it carries
them out, without any warning, just as it carries out any other
instructions.
In summary, the making of backups and/or safe copies may be a
worthwhile expenditure of time and resources before using
LoadFromText.
Coincidentally, I am doing that right now, in an effort to change all
"Guidance" objects and references to same, to "StudentSuccess"
objects. Ain't politics grand? I expect that StudentSuccess staff will
be much more effective than Guidance staff.
The first thing I did was to make a safe copy of the ADP (it could
have been MDB) file.

Access and the COM objects that can be exposed through VBA, JET and
ADO are marvelously powerful. Those posters here who denigrate them
are just plain wrong. This is my preliminary code. I claim it changes
everything in my ADP that refers to Guidance, from Guidance to
StudentSuccess. Is it perfect? No. For instance there are some Labels
and Captions which will have become "StudentSuccess" that I will
change interactively to "Student Success" Is it Beta? Not that yet;
it's my first whack at this since 1998. But IMO it's worth the couple
of hours (since beginning work this morning) spent creating it,
because next time any client says, I want to change ALL Matildas to
Rosemarys I can do that in 30 seconds. And clients do make such
requests, even when they promise that they won't. And if you WANT the
NEXT contract, sometimes it's better to say, "Sure, we can have that
tomorrow, no problem", instead of, "It's going to cost you MORE, and
how does late August sound?".

Option Compare Database
Option Explicit

Private Const OldComponent$ = "Guidance"
Private Const NewComponent$ = "StudentSuccess"

Private Sub ScanComponent()
Dim AccessObject As AccessObject
Dim FileNumber%
Dim ObjectName$
Dim SQL$
Dim Script$
Dim TempFullPath$
Dim TempPath$

' change the table name
' -------------------
On Error Resume Next
SQL = "sp_rename 'GuidanceStaff', 'StudentSuccessStaff'"
CurrentProject.Connection.Execute SQL
On Error GoTo 0
' -------------------

' change references from OldComponent to NewComponent in
Procedures, Views and (SQL) Functions
' -------------------
SQL = "SELECT sc.text"
SQL = SQL & " FROM SysComments sc"
SQL = SQL & " JOIN SysObjects so"
SQL = SQL & " ON sc.ID = so.ID"
SQL = SQL & " WHERE so.Name = "

For Each AccessObject In CurrentData.AllStoredProcedures
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
Script = CurrentProject.Connection.Execute(SQL & "'" &
ObjectName & "'")(0)
AlterComponent True, ObjectName, Script
Next AccessObject

For Each AccessObject In CurrentData.AllViews
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
Script = CurrentProject.Connection.Execute(SQL & "'" &
AccessObject.Name & "'")(0)
AlterComponent True, ObjectName, Script
Next AccessObject

For Each AccessObject In CurrentData.AllFunctions
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
Script = CurrentProject.Connection.Execute(SQL & "'" &
AccessObject.Name & "'")(0)
AlterComponent True, ObjectName, Script
Next AccessObject
' -------------------

' get temp path
' -------------------
TempPath = Environ$("temp")
If Len(TempPath) = 0 Then TempPath = CurDir$()
' -------------------

' change references from OldComponent to NewComponent in Forms,
Reports and (SQL) Modules
' and their names
' objects whose names include OldComponent will not be deleted
' -------------------
For Each AccessObject In CurrentProject.AllForms
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
SaveAsText acForm, ObjectName, TempPath & "\" & ObjectName
Next AccessObject

For Each AccessObject In CurrentProject.AllReports
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
SaveAsText acReport, ObjectName, TempPath & "\" & ObjectName
Next AccessObject

For Each AccessObject In CurrentProject.AllModules
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
SaveAsText acModule, ObjectName, TempPath & "\" & ObjectName
Next AccessObject
' -------------------

' -------------------
For Each AccessObject In CurrentProject.AllForms
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
FileNumber = FreeFile()
TempFullPath = TempPath & "\" & ObjectName
Open TempFullPath For Binary As #FileNumber
Script = String(LOF(FileNumber), vbNullChar)
Get #FileNumber, , Script
Close #FileNumber
Kill TempFullPath
If InStr(Script & " " & ObjectName, OldComponent) <0 Then
ChangeScript False, ObjectName, Script
FileNumber = FreeFile
Open TempFullPath For Binary As #FileNumber
Put #FileNumber, , Script
Close #FileNumber
LoadFromText acForm, ObjectName, TempFullPath
Kill TempFullPath
End If
Next AccessObject

For Each AccessObject In CurrentProject.AllReports
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
FileNumber = FreeFile()
TempFullPath = TempPath & "\" & ObjectName
Open TempFullPath For Binary As #FileNumber
Script = String(LOF(FileNumber), vbNullChar)
Get #FileNumber, , Script
Close #FileNumber
Kill TempFullPath
If InStr(Script & " " & ObjectName, OldComponent) <0 Then
ChangeScript False, ObjectName, Script
FileNumber = FreeFile
Open TempFullPath For Binary As #FileNumber
Put #FileNumber, , Script
Close #FileNumber
LoadFromText acReport, ObjectName, TempFullPath
Kill TempFullPath
End If
Next AccessObject

For Each AccessObject In CurrentProject.AllModules
ObjectName = AccessObject.Name
If ObjectName <"ChangeComponent" Then
FileNumber = FreeFile()
TempFullPath = TempPath & "\" & ObjectName
Open TempFullPath For Binary As #FileNumber
Script = String(LOF(FileNumber), vbNullChar)
Get #FileNumber, , Script
Close #FileNumber
Kill TempFullPath
If InStr(Script & " " & ObjectName, OldComponent) <0
Then
ChangeScript False, ObjectName, Script
FileNumber = FreeFile
Open TempFullPath For Binary As #FileNumber
Put #FileNumber, , Script
Close #FileNumber
LoadFromText acModule, ObjectName, TempFullPath
Kill TempFullPath
End If
End If
Next AccessObject

End Sub

Private Sub ChangeScript(ByVal SQL As Boolean, ByRef ObjectName$,
ByRef Script$)
Dim Iterator&
If SQL Then
DropSQLObject ObjectName
Script = Replace(Script, "ALTER", "CREATE")
End If
For Iterator = 1 To 3
ObjectName = Replace(ObjectName, _
StrConv(OldComponent, Iterator), _
StrConv(NewComponent, Iterator), , vbBinaryCompare)
Script = Replace(Script, _
StrConv(OldComponent, Iterator), _
StrConv(NewComponent, Iterator), , vbBinaryCompare)
Next Iterator
ObjectName = Replace(ObjectName, OldComponent, NewComponent,
vbTextCompare)
Script = Replace(Script, OldComponent, NewComponent,
vbTextCompare)
End Sub

Private Sub AlterComponent(ByVal SQL As Boolean, ByRef ObjectName$,
ByRef Script$)
If InStr(Script, OldComponent) <0 Then
ChangeScript SQL, ObjectName, Script
DropSQLObject ObjectName
CurrentProject.Connection.Execute Script
End If
End Sub

Public Sub DropSQLObject(ByVal ObjectName$)
Dim SQL$
SQL = "IF EXISTS (SELECT * FROM sys.views WHERE object_id =
OBJECT_ID(N'[dbo].[ObjectName]'))"
SQL = SQL & " DROP VIEW [dbo].[ObjectName]"
SQL = Replace(SQL, "ObjectName", ObjectName)
CurrentProject.Connection.Execute SQL
End Sub
Yes, I knw it's for an ADP, but i suspect changing ti to work in an
MDB is no more than 15 minutes work.

[Larry Linson]

And if you WANT the NEXT contract, sometimes it's better

to say, "Sure, we can have that tomorrow, no problem", instead
of, "It's going to cost you MORE, and how does late
August sound?".

But sometimes, Lyle, wouldn't it be satisfying to tell them? :-)

Larry

[lyle fairfield]

On May 9, 9:00*pm, "Larry Linson" <[e-mail]:

*And if you WANT the NEXT contract, sometimes it's better
*to say, "Sure, we can have that tomorrow, no problem", instead
*of, "It's going to cost you MORE, and how does late
*August sound?".

But sometimes, Lyle, wouldn't it be satisfying to tell them? *:-)

*Larry

I have told too many, Larry; wayyyyyyyyyyyy too many. I'm trying to
learn humility in my old age. Hasn't worked yet though. Maybe
tomorrow; maybe not.

[Larry Linson]

"lyle fairfield" <ly************@gmail.comwrote

But sometimes, Lyle, wouldn't it be satisfying to tell them? :-)

I have told too many, Larry; wayyyyyyyyyyyy too
many. I'm trying to learn humility in my old age.
Hasn't worked yet though. Maybe tomorrow;
maybe not.

Hmm. You'd think, after all these years, we'd have earned the right not to
be humble. After all, aren't we legends in our own minds?

And, wasn't there an old song that went something like this?

"There's no tomorrow when you're older'n dirt."

[Wayne]

I've used the code from the linked page that Lyle has posted above to
save and then load as text. The saving bit works fine but then the
code fails at:

app.LoadFromText acForm, Name, FileName

with the error:

Runtime error '2285'
(Database Name) can't create the output file.

Not sure what's causing this. Any help would be appreciated.

[lyle fairfield]

On May 18, 2:57*am, Wayne <[e-mail]:

I've used the code from the linked page that Lyle has posted above to
save and then load as text. *The saving bit works fine but then the
code fails at:

app.LoadFromText acForm, Name, FileName

with the error:

Runtime error '2285'
(Database Name) can't create the output file.

Not sure what's causing this. *Any help would be appreciated.

The code, in total, creates text files and a new copy of the database.
It uses another instance of the Access application to do so. If you
leave some of the code out; it's likely to err. So, first question,
did you leave some of the code out?

[Wayne]

No, I'm using the code in total that I copied from your linked page.
It creates the text files and a new database minus the objects in a
new folder, but stops with the error at the line of code that I posted
when trying to recreate the forms. I don't have any data pages, so the
forms are the first thing that it is trying to recreate.

[lyle fairfield]

On May 18, 6:55*am, Wayne <[e-mail]:

No, I'm using the code in total that I copied from your linked page.
It creates the text files and a new database minus the objects in a
new folder, but stops with the error at the line of code that I posted
when trying to recreate the forms. I don't have any data pages, so the
forms are the first thing that it is trying to recreate.

I don't know. A Search for "can't create the output file" in this
newsgroup doesn't find anything pertinent; ditto for 2285.

But a general Google search for "can't create the output file 2285"
returns many hits. A really quick glance at these might make one
wonder if the error is related to file attributes or folder
permissions. But when you "LoadFromText" you're not creating an
"output file", at least not ostensibly (VB/Access might be doing this
with a temporary file behind the scenes.)

So, where from here? Have you tried "On Error Resume Next" to see if
any forms load?

You're writing, obviously, to the folder where the (new) app lives.
And you must have write permissions there or SaveAsText would fail.

That's all that comes to mind on a Sunday morning, but several other
people are using the SaveAsText-LoadFromText duality as a cleanser and
perhaps someone will recognize the problem and be able to help.

[Wayne]

On May 19, 12:01*am, lyle fairfield <[e-mail]:

I don't know. A Search for "can't create the output file" in this
newsgroup doesn't find anything pertinent; ditto for 2285.

But a general Google search for "can't create the output file 2285"
returns many hits. A really quick glance at these might make one
wonder if the error is related to file attributes or folder
permissions. But when you "LoadFromText" you're not creating an
"output file", at least not ostensibly (VB/Access might be doing this
with a temporary file behind the scenes.)

So, where from here? Have you tried "On Error Resume Next" to see if
any forms load?

You're writing, obviously, to the folder where the (new) app lives.
And you must have write permissions there or SaveAsText would fail.

That's all that comes to mind on a Sunday morning, but several other
people are using the SaveAsText-LoadFromText duality as a cleanser and
perhaps someone will recognize the problem and be able to help.

Thanks for your help Lyle. I tried using "On Error Resume Next" and
the result was interesting. An "Errors.txt" file was created for each
form, 37 of them in this case. Each Errors.txt file contains
nothing. I thought that Vista might be doing strange things to me and
booted into XP but the result was the same. As you say, perhaps
someone else will be able to help.

[lyle fairfield]

On May 18, 11:34*am, Wayne <[e-mail]:

On May 19, 12:01*am, lyle fairfield <[e-mail]:

I don't know. A Search for "can't create the output file" in this
newsgroup doesn't find anything pertinent; ditto for 2285.

But a general Google search for "can't create the output file 2285"
returns many hits. A really quick glance at these might make one
wonder if the error is related to file attributes or folder
permissions. But when you "LoadFromText" you're not creating an
"output file", at least not ostensibly (VB/Access might be doing this
with a temporary file behind the scenes.)

So, where from here? Have you tried "On Error Resume Next" to see if
any forms load?

You're writing, obviously, to the folder where the (new) app lives.
And you must have write permissions there or SaveAsText would fail.

That's all that comes to mind on a Sunday morning, but several other
people are using the SaveAsText-LoadFromText duality as a cleanser and
perhaps someone will recognize the problem and be able to help.

Thanks for your help Lyle. *I tried using "On Error Resume Next" and
the result was interesting. *An "Errors.txt" file was created for each
form, 37 of them in this case. *Each Errors.txt file contains
nothing. *I thought that Vista might be doing strange things to me and
booted into XP but the result was the same. *As you say, perhaps
someone else will be able to help.

A little further search brings up this error described but no
suggestion as to its cause or cure. If you were to post the text file
for the first form that fails, some of us might see if we can load the
form into a database with the LoadFromText method. If so, we will know
its not your form. If not, we might be able to study the problem in
general terms, (or you could just send me the text file and I'll post
it: lyle dot fairfield at gmail dot com).

[Wayne]

On May 19, 1:51*am, lyle fairfield <[e-mail]:

A little further search brings up this error described but no
suggestion as to its cause or cure. If you were to post the text file
for the first form that fails, some of us might see if we can load the
form into a database with the LoadFromText method. If so, we will know
its not your form. If not, we might be able to study the problem in
general terms, (or you could just send me the text file and I'll post
it: lyle dot fairfield at gmail dot com).- Hide quoted text -

After a few hours of experimentation I've made a few observations.
The DB I am working with is an A2003 database, but I have a sneaking
suspicion that it is one that I have converted from A2000. Not sure
if this has any bearing on anything but I imported all of the objects
into a new A2003 database and tried running the code again. It
partially worked this time. As before, all the objects were saved as
text, but this time some of the forms were imported from the text
files before it fell over. I then tried importing some of the forms
that were missed on the import one by one by using the LoadFromText
method and this worked. This seems to indicate that there is nothing
inherently wrong with the forms. When I view the forms they look and
work fine.

The scenario is the same on a couple of other databases that I tried
running the code on. Some of the forms will import, then the code
fails. I'm 99% sure that these are native A2003 databases and haven't
been converted from an earlier version. As to why the original code is
failing and not importing all the objects, I don't know. It may well
remain a mystery of the ages. At least now I know that in a worst
case scenario if I ever have to use this, I can export all the objects
to text using the original code and then use the LoadFromText method
to import them all one by one. Quite laborious, but it would work.

I intend to experiment with this further when I have a bit more time
on my hands and will post if I get to the root of the problem.

[Chris Martin]

I encountered the same error trying to export/import an MDB as text:

Error 2205 (Database Name) can't create the output file.

I was using the same posted code. The error occurred at the same place as
Wayne's attempt: app.LoadFromText acForm, Name, FileName

Same error was thrown for reports as for forms, however qry defs and
modules re-loaded without error. Wayne wondered if the error related to
compatibility between versions (a converted Access 2000 database). Mine
was a converted Access 2000 database as well, so I did some experimenting.

Starting from scratch, I converted the Access 2000 mdb to Access 2003
using the 'Convert Database' menu tool. The resulting database
consistently threw error 2205 with this code.

I then created a new (empty) 2003 mdb and imported all objects from the
original mdb. The resulting database was error-free when running the text
export/import code.

This confirms that the problem likely relates to non-native 2003 databases
(converted from Access 2000). Apparently when Access imports objects from
A2000 into A2003 it creates 'pure' A2003 objects, whereas the 'Convert
Database' menu tool yields some obscure differences.

FWIW, I have included below (after the quoted text from Wayne) the 2 text
files from the same (simple) form, (1) exported from the
A2000-converted-to-A2003, and (2) exported from the native A2003 version.
There are 2 lines in the native 2003 version which are not in the
converted version:

---------------
GUID = Begin
0x8b8505f89b28904d82001a842a850a56
End
NameMap = Begin
0x0acc0e550000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0c00000002000000,
0x0000000000000000000000000000
End
---------------

I am unsure if these lines might be related to the error, but in general
my results suggest that importing all objects into a new 2003 database is
a better strategy for conversion than using Access' menu tool, at least
for text export/import functionality, but perhaps for other (hidden)
functionality as well.

One other note. My mdb had a reference to a local MDE code library. The
referenced MDE was created in Access 2000, so I originally suspected this
lib ref. was the culprit. However, using the imported (native 2003)
database, there was no error with or without the Access 2000 MDE lib ref.
Using the converted version, the error was consistently thrown, with or
without the reference.

Chris

--
Chris Martin
UNC-CH
On Sun, 18 May 2008, Wayne wrote:

On May 19, 1:51*am, lyle fairfield <[e-mail]:

>A little further search brings up this error described but no
suggestion as to its cause or cure. If you were to post the text file
for the first form that fails, some of us might see if we can load the
form into a database with the LoadFromText method. If so, we will know
its not your form. If not, we might be able to study the problem in
general terms, (or you could just send me the text file and I'll post
it: lyle dot fairfield at gmail dot com).- Hide quoted text -

After a few hours of experimentation I've made a few observations.
The DB I am working with is an A2003 database, but I have a sneaking
suspicion that it is one that I have converted from A2000. Not sure
if this has any bearing on anything but I imported all of the objects
into a new A2003 database and tried running the code again. It
partially worked this time. As before, all the objects were saved as
text, but this time some of the forms were imported from the text
files before it fell over. I then tried importing some of the forms
that were missed on the import one by one by using the LoadFromText
method and this worked. This seems to indicate that there is nothing
inherently wrong with the forms. When I view the forms they look and
work fine.

The scenario is the same on a couple of other databases that I tried
running the code on. Some of the forms will import, then the code
fails. I'm 99% sure that these are native A2003 databases and haven't
been converted from an earlier version. As to why the original code is
failing and not importing all the objects, I don't know. It may well
remain a mystery of the ages. At least now I know that in a worst
case scenario if I ever have to use this, I can export all the objects
to text using the original code and then use the LoadFromText method
to import them all one by one. Quite laborious, but it would work.

I intend to experiment with this further when I have a bit more time
on my hands and will post if I get to the root of the problem.

-----------------------
form from Access 2000 converted to Access 2003
-----------------------
Version =20
VersionRequired =20
Checksum =1319579709
Begin Form
AutoResize = NotDefault
RecordSelectors = NotDefault
NavigationButtons = NotDefault
DividingLines = NotDefault
DefaultView =0
ScrollBars =0
TabularFamily =0
BorderStyle =3
PictureAlignment =2
DatasheetGridlinesBehavior =3
GridX =24
GridY =24
DatasheetFontHeight =10
Left =270
Top =210
Right =8910
Bottom =4530
DatasheetGridlinesColor =12632256
RecSrcDt = Begin
0x805fd4ecd754e340
End
Caption ="Form not ready"
DatasheetFontName ="Arial"
Begin
Begin Label
BackStyle =0
FontName ="Tahoma"
End
Begin CommandButton
FontSize =8
FontWeight =400
ForeColor =-2147483630
FontName ="Tahoma"
End
Begin Section
Height =2880
BackColor =-2147483633
Name ="Detail"
GUID = Begin
0xa45a656675e46f489f624edcd2dbe040
End
Begin
Begin Label
OverlapFlags =85
TextAlign =2
Width =5580
Height =600
FontSize =16
Name ="Label0"
Caption ="Form not ready."
GUID = Begin
0xc096deb6ece8ae41af262a11be30cb7e
End
End
Begin CommandButton
OverlapFlags =85
Left =2100
Top =1140
Width =1035
Height =405
Name ="cmdClose"
Caption ="Close"
OnClick ="[Event Procedure]"
GUID = Begin
0x663bfb42d6a6f246a33b57112e840d45
End
End
End
End
End
End
CodeBehindForm
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = True
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
Private Sub cmdClose_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdClose_Click
DoCmd.Close

Exit_cmdClose_Click:
Exit Sub

Err_cmdClose_Click:
MsgBox err.Description
Resume Exit_cmdClose_Click

End Sub
-----------------------
-----------------------
-----------------------
-----------------------
form from Access 2003 imported from Access 2000
-----------------------
Version =20
VersionRequired =20
Checksum =-416531212
Begin Form
AutoResize = NotDefault
RecordSelectors = NotDefault
NavigationButtons = NotDefault
DividingLines = NotDefault
DefaultView =0
ScrollBars =0
TabularFamily =0
BorderStyle =3
PictureAlignment =2
DatasheetGridlinesBehavior =3
GridX =24
GridY =24
DatasheetFontHeight =10
Left =270
Top =210
Right =8910
Bottom =4530
DatasheetGridlinesColor =12632256
RecSrcDt = Begin
0x805fd4ecd754e340
End
GUID = Begin
0x8b8505f89b28904d82001a842a850a56
End
NameMap = Begin
0x0acc0e550000000000000000000000000000000000000000 0c00000002000000
,
0x0000000000000000000000000000
End
Caption ="Form not ready"
DatasheetFontName ="Arial"
Begin
Begin Label
BackStyle =0
FontName ="Tahoma"
End
Begin CommandButton
FontSize =8
FontWeight =400
ForeColor =-2147483630
FontName ="Tahoma"
End
Begin Section
Height =2880
BackColor =-2147483633
Name ="Detail"
GUID = Begin
0xb7565ebe5f29f74c92a186f19a1e8405
End
Begin
Begin Label
OverlapFlags =85
TextAlign =2
Width =5580
Height =600
FontSize =16
Name ="Label0"
Caption ="Form not ready."
GUID = Begin
0x5e6a4c00564dfc4d90ae25a2e161fb30
End
End
Begin CommandButton
OverlapFlags =85
Left =2100
Top =1140
Width =1035
Height =405
Name ="cmdClose"
Caption ="Close"
OnClick ="[Event Procedure]"
GUID = Begin
0x0b9721ce18424949a071843075903f42
End
End
End
End
End
End
CodeBehindForm
Attribute VB_GlobalNameSpace = False
Attribute VB_Creatable = True
Attribute VB_PredeclaredId = True
Attribute VB_Exposed = False
Option Compare Database
Option Explicit
Private Sub cmdClose_Click()
On Error GoTo Err_cmdClose_Click
DoCmd.Close

Exit_cmdClose_Click:
Exit Sub

Err_cmdClose_Click:
MsgBox Err.Description
Resume Exit_cmdClose_Click

End Sub

[Wayne]

On May 23, 11:26*pm, Chris Martin <[e-mail]>
wrote:

I encountered the same error trying to export/import an MDB as text:

* * Error 2205 (Database Name) can't create the output file.

I was using the same posted code. The error occurred at the same place as
Wayne's attempt: *app.LoadFromText acForm, Name, FileName

Same error was thrown for reports as for forms, however qry defs and
modules re-loaded without error. Wayne wondered if the error related to
compatibility between versions (a converted Access 2000 database). Mine
was a converted Access 2000 database as well, so I did some experimenting.

Starting from scratch, I converted the Access 2000 mdb to Access 2003
using the 'Convert Database' menu tool. The resulting database
consistently threw error 2205 with this code.

I then created a new (empty) 2003 mdb and imported all objects from the
original mdb. The resulting database was error-free when running the text
export/import code.

This confirms that the problem likely relates to non-native 2003 databases
(converted from Access 2000). Apparently when Access imports objects from
A2000 into A2003 it creates 'pure' A2003 objects, whereas the 'Convert
Database' menu tool yields some obscure differences.

FWIW, I have included below (after the quoted text from Wayne) the 2 text
files from the same (simple) form, (1) exported from the
A2000-converted-to-A2003, and (2) exported from the native A2003 version.
There are 2 lines in the native 2003 version which are not in the
converted version:

Thanks for the reply (and detective work) Chris. I'll import all
objects into a new A2003 database and see how it goes.