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The Most Annoying Access BUG on WinXP

dima69
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If somebody had told me about this I wouldn't beleave it. But I've seen it myself.
This bug is only happans on Windows XP, with Access2K and AccessXP (I havn't checked with 2003). And, it happans only with Windows XP style ! Not with Classic style ! (Yes, I am talking about display appearance !).
This bug has many "faces", I'll try to describe the simplest way to reproduce it.
1. Create an MDB database with one form.
2. In startup properties, uncheck "show database window", and make the created form as startup form.
3. Open the database (maximized). You must see the form in access window (and nothing else).
4. Move the form down, so that the half of it is hidden and the vertical scrollbar appears on Access window.
5. Pull the scrollbar down (so that the form moves up and unhidden). At this step, the scrollbar does not disappear (as it should), although nothing is hidden any more.
6. Move the form up. Pull the scrollbar up. Make the scrollbar disappear.
7. Now, try to move the form. It frozed !

As I've mentioned above, frozen window is the lightest form of that bug, wich actually has some very unpleasant side effects. I did not find any reference to it on the web, I'll appreciate any thoughts about it.
Feb 28 '07 #1
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MMcCarthy
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I haven't experienced this and I use Access 2K on Windos XP all the time. There are some update patches for Acess 2K that you might be missing. That's the only thing I can think of.

Mary
Feb 28 '07 #2

dima69
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I haven't experienced this and I use Access 2K on Windos XP all the time. There are some update patches for Acess 2K that you might be missing. That's the only thing I can think of.

Mary
Have you tryed to reproduce the bug ?
Feb 28 '07 #3

MMcCarthy
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Have you tryed to reproduce the bug ?
I can't at the moment as I'm tied up on something else but will definitely try it later.

Mary
Feb 28 '07 #4

dima69
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I can't at the moment as I'm tied up on something else but will definitely try it later.

Mary
I'll appreciate it.
Personally, I recieved the complain from one of my clients, and I have confirmed this behavior on 5 different computers.
Feb 28 '07 #5

ADezii
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If somebody had told me about this I wouldn't beleave it. But I've seen it myself.
This bug is only happans on Windows XP, with Access2K and AccessXP (I havn't checked with 2003). And, it happans only with Windows XP style ! Not with Classic style ! (Yes, I am talking about display appearance !).
This bug has many "faces", I'll try to describe the simplest way to reproduce it.
1. Create an MDB database with one form.
2. In startup properties, uncheck "show database window", and make the created form as startup form.
3. Open the database (maximized). You must see the form in access window (and nothing else).
4. Move the form down, so that the half of it is hidden and the vertical scrollbar appears on Access window.
5. Pull the scrollbar down (so that the form moves up and unhidden). At this step, the scrollbar does not disappear (as it should), although nothing is hidden any more.
6. Move the form up. Pull the scrollbar up. Make the scrollbar disappear.
7. Now, try to move the form. It frozed !

As I've mentioned above, frozen window is the lightest form of that bug, wich actually has some very unpleasant side effects. I did not find any reference to it on the web, I'll appreciate any thoughts about it.
I am running Access 2000 on Windows XP, Windows XP Style, and duplicated your steps exactly. I encountered no problems such as you have described. Sorry.
Feb 28 '07 #6

MMcCarthy
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I am running Access 2000 on Windows XP, Windows XP Style, and duplicated your steps exactly. I encountered no problems such as you have described. Sorry.
I can't duplicate the conditions either.

Possibilities:

1. Your client is missing a patch for the Access 2000
2. The database is somehow corrupt
3. There is a windows problem that is causing this

Mary
Mar 1 '07 #7

dima69
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It turns to be a little more difficult than I thought to reproduce the bug.
The better way to see it is to open two forms (say, frm1 and frm2). Move frm1 to the top of access client area, then move frm2 to the bottom so that it is half hidden behind the bottom edge. Now pull the scrollbar down to unhide frm2 (and half hide frm1). Then move frm2 up, then pul the scrollbar up to unhide both forms (now the scrollbar should disappear). Now, If you try to move frm2, you cannot !
Later I'll put the link to the database file that will demonstrate the bug.
Mar 1 '07 #8

dima69
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I can't duplicate the conditions either.

Possibilities:

1. Your client is missing a patch for the Access 2000
2. The database is somehow corrupt
3. There is a windows problem that is causing this

Mary
Thanks for the reply.
I think though that the bug is real.

1. The bug is with both Access 2000 and 2002, so it is definitly not the patch.
2. The database was created from scratch, several times, on different computers.
3. I've checked this on 7 different computers (different locations).
Mar 1 '07 #9

dima69
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Here is a link to the test file to demonstrate the bug:
http://www.auditor2000.co.il/public/test1.mdb
1. Open the database. You must see two forms.
2. Move Form1 down, so that it is half hidden behind the bottom edge of Access window. Vertical scrollbar of Access client area is now visible.
3. Pull the scrollbar down to lift Form1. Form2 also moves up, so now it is half hidden behind the top edge of Access client area.
4. Move Form1 up.
5. Pull the scrollbar up, so both forms are fully visible. Now the scrollbar disappears.
6. Try to move Form1, it is frozen !
Mar 1 '07 #10

NeoPa
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Thanks for the reply.
I think though that the bug is real.

1. The bug is with both Access 2000 and 2002, so it is definitly not the patch.
2. The database was created from scratch, several times, on different computers.
3. I've checked this on 7 different computers (different locations).
No-one is suggesting that you have not found a real bug, just that it is not a current one. Your point #1 makes no sense.
What reason, if any, do you have for stating that it is not a patching issue?
Mar 4 '07 #11

dima69
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No-one is suggesting that you have not found a real bug, just that it is not a current one. Your point #1 makes no sense.
What reason, if any, do you have for stating that it is not a patching issue?
Well, maybe you are right. Currently I'me using Office XP SP2. I'll try to check this out with SP3 (wich is the last one for today, isn't it ?)
Mar 4 '07 #12

dima69
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No-one is suggesting that you have not found a real bug, just that it is not a current one. Your point #1 makes no sense.
What reason, if any, do you have for stating that it is not a patching issue?
I've checked with OfficeXP SP3. Same result.
Mar 4 '07 #13

NeoPa
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I wish I could help more. I assume you've already patched your OS up to the latest level (Win XP SP2).
Maybe it's a video driver version issue, but I don't feel confident of that. I would say it must be something to do with your setup somewhere as so many have tried to follow the instructions and not reproduced the error. Of course this is not only happening on one PC as you've said. Working out what is common to all those and not common to many other PCs is not easy though.
Sorry again that I couldn't be more help.
Mar 5 '07 #14

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