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Security - use internal or make own ?

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gfb
This was a topic back in 2003 which has now been closed since I get the
message "You cannot reply to this topic because it is more than 30 days
old or has been closed by a manager."

I am wondering whether the zip file mentioned then would be available
at this late date and could be sent to me.

I am tasked with setting up security for an Access 2003 application
using 2 db's, 1 front-end and 1 back-end. I would sure like to save
some re-engineering time if possible and also I don't have a picture in
my mind yet as to what the form should look like. I am close to
finishing defining the security groups as suggested by this topic.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated,
Thanx in advance,
gb

Sep 28 '06 #1
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Wow, you really make it easy for anyone to determine if the "zip file
mentioned then would be available." Do you have any idea how many messages
are archived from this newsgroup for the year 2003? Might you mention the
Subject of the message, or even better, the name / purpose of the zip file?

Not for my sake... I just don't have time and energy to seek out even
well-documented threads to try to be able to determine the question I'm
being asked to answer and suspect few others here do, either. I will,
sometimes, read such a post if it is referenced with a hyperlink so I can
just click through to it.

Access' own security is breakable, but not trivially so. Any "homegrown"
security is very likely to be breakable, and trivially breakable, at that.
The find the Access security FAQ, visit
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793. (Barring word-wrap problems, you
can just click the link.)

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

"gfb" <ia******@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:11*********************@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
This was a topic back in 2003 which has now been closed since I get the
message "You cannot reply to this topic because it is more than 30 days
old or has been closed by a manager."

I am wondering whether the zip file mentioned then would be available
at this late date and could be sent to me.

I am tasked with setting up security for an Access 2003 application
using 2 db's, 1 front-end and 1 back-end. I would sure like to save
some re-engineering time if possible and also I don't have a picture in
my mind yet as to what the form should look like. I am close to
finishing defining the security groups as suggested by this topic.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated,
Thanx in advance,
gb

Sep 29 '06 #2

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gfb
Hello! Sorry about that - duh ...

The subject of the topic was the same as the one I used: "Security -
use internal or make own ?". The date was: Wed, Jan 15 2003 8:55 pm .
Advice was given on the importance of firstly creating the security
groups. Then the person advised that he/she actually did not like the
security menu in ms-access, and thus wrote his/her own. It was
indicated I could see some screen shots of this at:

http://www.attcanada.net/~kallal.msn...Sec/index.html
but this link is broken.

There was no details given for the zip file, but I would presume it
contained an .mdb file with the form and code to make one's own
security.

Other than actually specifying the person's name who created the zip
file, this is about all I got.

I'm hopefully doing better this time,
newbie on comp.databases.ms-access,
gb

Larry Linson wrote:
Wow, you really make it easy for anyone to determine if the "zip file
mentioned then would be available." Do you have any idea how many messages
are archived from this newsgroup for the year 2003? Might you mention the
Subject of the message, or even better, the name / purpose of the zip file?

Not for my sake... I just don't have time and energy to seek out even
well-documented threads to try to be able to determine the question I'm
being asked to answer and suspect few others here do, either. I will,
sometimes, read such a post if it is referenced with a hyperlink so I can
just click through to it.

Access' own security is breakable, but not trivially so. Any "homegrown"
security is very likely to be breakable, and trivially breakable, at that.
The find the Access security FAQ, visit
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793. (Barring word-wrap problems, you
can just click the link.)

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

"gfb" <ia******@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:11*********************@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
This was a topic back in 2003 which has now been closed since I get the
message "You cannot reply to this topic because it is more than 30 days
old or has been closed by a manager."

I am wondering whether the zip file mentioned then would be available
at this late date and could be sent to me.

I am tasked with setting up security for an Access 2003 application
using 2 db's, 1 front-end and 1 back-end. I would sure like to save
some re-engineering time if possible and also I don't have a picture in
my mind yet as to what the form should look like. I am close to
finishing defining the security groups as suggested by this topic.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated,
Thanx in advance,
gb
Sep 29 '06 #3

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gfb
Forgot about the hyperlink - here it is:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a5351e87e3f978

Aren't I making a good impression!
Feel like a ...,
gb
gfb wrote:
Hello! Sorry about that - duh ...

The subject of the topic was the same as the one I used: "Security -
use internal or make own ?". The date was: Wed, Jan 15 2003 8:55 pm .
Advice was given on the importance of firstly creating the security
groups. Then the person advised that he/she actually did not like the
security menu in ms-access, and thus wrote his/her own. It was
indicated I could see some screen shots of this at:

http://www.attcanada.net/~kallal.msn...Sec/index.html
but this link is broken.

There was no details given for the zip file, but I would presume it
contained an .mdb file with the form and code to make one's own
security.

Other than actually specifying the person's name who created the zip
file, this is about all I got.

I'm hopefully doing better this time,
newbie on comp.databases.ms-access,
gb

Larry Linson wrote:
Wow, you really make it easy for anyone to determine if the "zip file
mentioned then would be available." Do you have any idea how many messages
are archived from this newsgroup for the year 2003? Might you mention the
Subject of the message, or even better, the name / purpose of the zip file?

Not for my sake... I just don't have time and energy to seek out even
well-documented threads to try to be able to determine the question I'm
being asked to answer and suspect few others here do, either. I will,
sometimes, read such a post if it is referenced with a hyperlink so I can
just click through to it.

Access' own security is breakable, but not trivially so. Any "homegrown"
security is very likely to be breakable, and trivially breakable, at that.
The find the Access security FAQ, visit
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793. (Barring word-wrap problems, you
can just click the link.)

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

"gfb" <ia******@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:11*********************@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
This was a topic back in 2003 which has now been closed since I get the
message "You cannot reply to this topic because it is more than 30 days
old or has been closed by a manager."
>
I am wondering whether the zip file mentioned then would be available
at this late date and could be sent to me.
>
I am tasked with setting up security for an Access 2003 application
using 2 db's, 1 front-end and 1 back-end. I would sure like to save
some re-engineering time if possible and also I don't have a picture in
my mind yet as to what the form should look like. I am close to
finishing defining the security groups as suggested by this topic.
>
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated,
Thanx in advance,
gb
>
Sep 29 '06 #4

P: n/a
gfb
Forgot about the hyperlink - here it is:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a5351e87e3f978

Aren't I making a good impression!
Sorry about that,
gb
gfb wrote:
Hello! Sorry about that - duh ...

The subject of the topic was the same as the one I used: "Security -
use internal or make own ?". The date was: Wed, Jan 15 2003 8:55 pm .
Advice was given on the importance of firstly creating the security
groups. Then the person advised that he/she actually did not like the
security menu in ms-access, and thus wrote his/her own. It was
indicated I could see some screen shots of this at:

http://www.attcanada.net/~kallal.msn...Sec/index.html
but this link is broken.

There was no details given for the zip file, but I would presume it
contained an .mdb file with the form and code to make one's own
security.

Other than actually specifying the person's name who created the zip
file, this is about all I got.

I'm hopefully doing better this time,
newbie on comp.databases.ms-access,
gb

Larry Linson wrote:
Wow, you really make it easy for anyone to determine if the "zip file
mentioned then would be available." Do you have any idea how many messages
are archived from this newsgroup for the year 2003? Might you mention the
Subject of the message, or even better, the name / purpose of the zip file?

Not for my sake... I just don't have time and energy to seek out even
well-documented threads to try to be able to determine the question I'm
being asked to answer and suspect few others here do, either. I will,
sometimes, read such a post if it is referenced with a hyperlink so I can
just click through to it.

Access' own security is breakable, but not trivially so. Any "homegrown"
security is very likely to be breakable, and trivially breakable, at that.
The find the Access security FAQ, visit
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793. (Barring word-wrap problems, you
can just click the link.)

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

"gfb" <ia******@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:11*********************@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
This was a topic back in 2003 which has now been closed since I get the
message "You cannot reply to this topic because it is more than 30 days
old or has been closed by a manager."
>
I am wondering whether the zip file mentioned then would be available
at this late date and could be sent to me.
>
I am tasked with setting up security for an Access 2003 application
using 2 db's, 1 front-end and 1 back-end. I would sure like to save
some re-engineering time if possible and also I don't have a picture in
my mind yet as to what the form should look like. I am close to
finishing defining the security groups as suggested by this topic.
>
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated,
Thanx in advance,
gb
>
Sep 29 '06 #5

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Thanks. I did click the link. Albert Kallal is a very knowledgeable Access
MVP. He did not describe "making his own" security, but simply created a
different, more user-friendly, interface for the database security
administrator to use when working with with Access' own user and group level
security.

The adminstrator may not need to understand all the ins and outs of
security, but the person implementing it (you) will have to. The
adminstrator may possibly only just have to put users in the proper groups,
and issue them userids and initial passwords.

Thus the link I provided is germane, and regardless of the interface, if you
are going to use security, you will need to read, re-read, study, re-study,
and understand that information. Once you _think_ you understand, you then
need to attempt to implement it on some _copies_ of your database, or a
sample database, because (unless you are more attuned to complexity than
most of us) you are going to have a few that turn out "so secure even you
can't get into them" and others "so unsecure that anyone can get in to
them".

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

"gfb" <ia******@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:11**********************@b28g2000cwb.googlegr oups.com...
Forgot about the hyperlink - here it is:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp....a5351e87e3f978

Aren't I making a good impression!
Sorry about that,
gb
gfb wrote:
>Hello! Sorry about that - duh ...

The subject of the topic was the same as the one I used: "Security -
use internal or make own ?". The date was: Wed, Jan 15 2003 8:55 pm .
Advice was given on the importance of firstly creating the security
groups. Then the person advised that he/she actually did not like the
security menu in ms-access, and thus wrote his/her own. It was
indicated I could see some screen shots of this at:

http://www.attcanada.net/~kallal.msn...Sec/index.html
but this link is broken.

There was no details given for the zip file, but I would presume it
contained an .mdb file with the form and code to make one's own
security.

Other than actually specifying the person's name who created the zip
file, this is about all I got.

I'm hopefully doing better this time,
newbie on comp.databases.ms-access,
gb

Larry Linson wrote:
Wow, you really make it easy for anyone to determine if the "zip file
mentioned then would be available." Do you have any idea how many
messages
are archived from this newsgroup for the year 2003? Might you mention
the
Subject of the message, or even better, the name / purpose of the zip
file?

Not for my sake... I just don't have time and energy to seek out even
well-documented threads to try to be able to determine the question I'm
being asked to answer and suspect few others here do, either. I will,
sometimes, read such a post if it is referenced with a hyperlink so I
can
just click through to it.

Access' own security is breakable, but not trivially so. Any
"homegrown"
security is very likely to be breakable, and trivially breakable, at
that.
The find the Access security FAQ, visit
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=207793. (Barring word-wrap problems,
you
can just click the link.)

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

"gfb" <ia******@yahoo.cawrote in message
news:11*********************@k70g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
This was a topic back in 2003 which has now been closed since I get
the
message "You cannot reply to this topic because it is more than 30
days
old or has been closed by a manager."

I am wondering whether the zip file mentioned then would be available
at this late date and could be sent to me.

I am tasked with setting up security for an Access 2003 application
using 2 db's, 1 front-end and 1 back-end. I would sure like to save
some re-engineering time if possible and also I don't have a picture
in
my mind yet as to what the form should look like. I am close to
finishing defining the security groups as suggested by this topic.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated,
Thanx in advance,
gb

Sep 29 '06 #6

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