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O.T. - Seeking Registrar w/ no imposed domain xfer fee (if you're opposed to O.T. posts - don't read this)

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MLH
I'm tired of reading the fine print! Too many registrars out there.
So I'm asking this group for a little help.

I'm looking for a Registrar who will do an honest day's work for
a fair price. I'm tired of Registrars who build in "gotchas" into
their service offering that nab you for something more than you
bargain for - including the right to screw you later in their fine
print. I want a registrar who won't charge you to leave them. Instead,
they EARN your ongoing loyalty so you won't leave them. I don't like
the bullshit "Hotel California" commitments they use trap you. Luring
me in with a low-priced domain registration, not making it easy to see
on their site the costs associated with abandoning them in favor of a
better, more competitive Registrar.

Here's a typical clause appearing on RegisterFly's site at
http://www.registerfly.com/openwindo...terms.php%22);
5. Transfer to another Registrar:
You agree that you may not transfer your domain name registration to
another domain name registrar during the first sixty (60) days from
the effective date of your initial domain name registration with
Registerfly.com. You agree to provide authorization to Registerfly.com
for the transfer of the domain name to another registrar and agree to
pay any and all fees that may be charged by Registerfly.com to effect
the transfer. Your request to transfer to another registrar may be
denied in situations described in the Dispute Policy, including, but
not limited to: a dispute over the identity of the domain name holder;
bankruptcy; and default in the payment of any fees.

Sorry about the O.T. post - but I did well to warn you in advance in
the subject line. And, this topic is of generaly interest to many who
frequent this NG, if not to you personally.
May 8 '06 #1
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No real skin off our backs, but you'd stand a better chance of getting the
answer you want in a newsgroup devoted to websites or hosting than in an
Access newsgroup.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

"MLH" <CR**@NorthState.net> wrote in message
news:gl********************************@4ax.com...
I'm tired of reading the fine print! Too many registrars out there.
So I'm asking this group for a little help.

I'm looking for a Registrar who will do an honest day's work for
a fair price. I'm tired of Registrars who build in "gotchas" into
their service offering that nab you for something more than you
bargain for - including the right to screw you later in their fine
print. I want a registrar who won't charge you to leave them. Instead,
they EARN your ongoing loyalty so you won't leave them. I don't like
the bullshit "Hotel California" commitments they use trap you. Luring
me in with a low-priced domain registration, not making it easy to see
on their site the costs associated with abandoning them in favor of a
better, more competitive Registrar.

Here's a typical clause appearing on RegisterFly's site at
http://www.registerfly.com/openwindo...terms.php%22);
5. Transfer to another Registrar:
You agree that you may not transfer your domain name registration to
another domain name registrar during the first sixty (60) days from
the effective date of your initial domain name registration with
Registerfly.com. You agree to provide authorization to Registerfly.com
for the transfer of the domain name to another registrar and agree to
pay any and all fees that may be charged by Registerfly.com to effect
the transfer. Your request to transfer to another registrar may be
denied in situations described in the Dispute Policy, including, but
not limited to: a dispute over the identity of the domain name holder;
bankruptcy; and default in the payment of any fees.

Sorry about the O.T. post - but I did well to warn you in advance in
the subject line. And, this topic is of generaly interest to many who
frequent this NG, if not to you personally.

May 10 '06 #2

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MLH
>No real skin off our backs, but you'd stand a better chance of getting the
answer you want in a newsgroup devoted to websites or hosting than in an
Access newsgroup.


You're right, Larry.
May 10 '06 #3

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"MLH" <CR**@NorthState.net> wrote
No real skin off our backs, but you'd stand a better chance of getting
the
answer you want in a newsgroup devoted to websites or hosting than in an
Access newsgroup.


You're right, Larry.


That said, I have two friends whose opinions I trust, one is happy with
GoDaddy and the other is happy with 1&1. So, if secondhand opinions with no
particular detail to back them up is acceptable, there you are.

Larry
May 10 '06 #4

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Hi, Larry.

Sorry. 1&1 doesn't meet his requirements. They won't allow domain
transfers within 60 days of initial domain registration or within 60 days of
transfer of the domain from the previous registrar. And when we signed up a
few years ago, they didn't charge for transferring domains to them or from
them, but I notice that they no longer post the statement that there's no
charge for domain transfers from them to another registrar, which leads me
to believe that these transfers now cost something. But he should check
with them to confirm this if he's otherwise interested in 1&1.

HTH.
Gunny

See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs.
See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials.
http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/ex...ributors2.html for contact
info.
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:ewe8g.19643$W83.4336@trnddc07...
"MLH" <CR**@NorthState.net> wrote
>No real skin off our backs, but you'd stand a better chance of getting
>the
answer you want in a newsgroup devoted to websites or hosting than in an
Access newsgroup.


You're right, Larry.


That said, I have two friends whose opinions I trust, one is happy with
GoDaddy and the other is happy with 1&1. So, if secondhand opinions with
no particular detail to back them up is acceptable, there you are.

Larry

May 10 '06 #5

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Thanks for the clarification, Gunny. That's the kind of problem people
encounter with "second-hand information".

I guess my friend did not need to transfer his domains -- and I don't know
how recently he used them, though he did recently recommend them to me.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
"'69 Camaro" <Fo**************************@Spameater.orgZERO_SP AM> wrote in
message news:0d********************@adelphia.com...
Hi, Larry.

Sorry. 1&1 doesn't meet his requirements. They won't allow domain
transfers within 60 days of initial domain registration or within 60 days
of transfer of the domain from the previous registrar. And when we signed
up a few years ago, they didn't charge for transferring domains to them or
from them, but I notice that they no longer post the statement that
there's no charge for domain transfers from them to another registrar,
which leads me to believe that these transfers now cost something. But he
should check with them to confirm this if he's otherwise interested in
1&1.

HTH.
Gunny

See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs.
See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials.
http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/ex...ributors2.html for contact
info.
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:ewe8g.19643$W83.4336@trnddc07...
"MLH" <CR**@NorthState.net> wrote
>No real skin off our backs, but you'd stand a better chance of getting
>the
answer you want in a newsgroup devoted to websites or hosting than in an
Access newsgroup.

You're right, Larry.


That said, I have two friends whose opinions I trust, one is happy with
GoDaddy and the other is happy with 1&1. So, if secondhand opinions with
no particular detail to back them up is acceptable, there you are.

Larry


May 10 '06 #6

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Hi, Larry.

Transferring from one Web host to another is a big hassle, especially when a
domain name needs to be transferred, too. 1&1 is pretty flexible, though.
One can have his Web site hosted with 1&1, but have his domain registered
with another registrar, so that there are no domain transfer fees or waiting
periods involved.

1&1's Web hosting is much more user-friendly for Web site novices than when
we first signed up a few years ago. It required an extensive amount of time
to read the user manuals and the FAQ's, hands-on trial and error, and even
then, we needed tech support because a few of the features didn't work
correctly. Tech support was German (their company is headquartered in
Germany), and their English wasn't as good as one could hope for when tech
support is needed. Fortunately, I speak some German, so we could
communicate. But tech support's answers were the simplistic, "It should
work as advertised," meaning that they had no clue as to what the problems
were.

Fortunately, I'm a former Unix system administrator, so I was able to log in
with the secure shell to our Web space and see what directory and file
permissions and configuration files I needed to change within Linux that the
Web browser-based control panel was supposed to be manipulating. I wouldn't
expect the average Windows user to have succeeded at this, so if a
prospective customer is a novice Web master who isn't willing to read the
manuals and expects extensive hand holding, then this customer would be
better off with the more expensive Web hosts who have a dedicated tech
support team for these types of users in the language of choice. Based upon
MLH's participation in this newsgroup, I get the impression that MLH would
be very unhappy with 1&1.

That said, since we've made it past the rough parts at the beginning, it's
been smooth sailing with 1&1. We recommend 1&1 to our customers who either
have or want Web hosting, and we set up for them their Web sites, their
secure connections for uploading and downloading files, their E-mail, and
updating their online databases from their own PC's, so that they don't have
to overcome the learning curve. We've had experience with several Web
hosts, and so far, 1&1 provides the best services and the best prices,
better than any of our customers' other current Web hosts. (Some customers
are reluctant to switch because they're happy with what they have -- easy,
but proprietary, Web site builders that they can't take with them to edit
their Web pages in the future -- and the hassle to switch Web hosts just
isn't worth it to them -- even though we offer to take care of the hassle
for them, other than the domain name transfer, which legally, they must do
themselves.)

HTH.
Gunny

See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs.
See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials.
http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/ex...ributors2.html for contact
info.
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:Rhq8g.3379$Fh.2725@trnddc02...
Thanks for the clarification, Gunny. That's the kind of problem people
encounter with "second-hand information".

I guess my friend did not need to transfer his domains -- and I don't know
how recently he used them, though he did recently recommend them to me.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
"'69 Camaro" <Fo**************************@Spameater.orgZERO_SP AM> wrote
in message news:0d********************@adelphia.com...
Hi, Larry.

Sorry. 1&1 doesn't meet his requirements. They won't allow domain
transfers within 60 days of initial domain registration or within 60 days
of transfer of the domain from the previous registrar. And when we
signed up a few years ago, they didn't charge for transferring domains to
them or from them, but I notice that they no longer post the statement
that there's no charge for domain transfers from them to another
registrar, which leads me to believe that these transfers now cost
something. But he should check with them to confirm this if he's
otherwise interested in 1&1.

HTH.
Gunny

See http://www.QBuilt.com for all your database needs.
See http://www.Access.QBuilt.com for Microsoft Access tips and tutorials.
http://www.Access.QBuilt.com/html/ex...ributors2.html for contact
info.
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:ewe8g.19643$W83.4336@trnddc07...
"MLH" <CR**@NorthState.net> wrote

>No real skin off our backs, but you'd stand a better chance of getting
>the
>answer you want in a newsgroup devoted to websites or hosting than in
>an
>Access newsgroup.

You're right, Larry.

That said, I have two friends whose opinions I trust, one is happy with
GoDaddy and the other is happy with 1&1. So, if secondhand opinions with
no particular detail to back them up is acceptable, there you are.

Larry



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