Hi all,
I wanted to start a thread that might help many of us. I worked for a
company for 12 years, until this past Christmas when they let me go.
Getting rid of the higher dollar guys, in favor of more profit, was the
reasoning. Oh well.
Anyhow. I built this companies network from the ground up. Then about
8 years ago, I developed a MS Access 2.0 database. This database, much
like others, was supposed to just tiny bits. Over the course of time,
we converted to 97, then to 2000, then this past summer to 2003. The
database now runs almost every aspect of the company, from contract
management to payroll (outsourced) to contact management to sales to
production measurement and budgeting tools, except the Accounting end,
yet it interfaces and pulls data out for custom report in Access.
Towards the end of my tenor, say the past 3 years, I had 2 guys doing
the hardware/break fix, while I spent most of the time developing. The
company is about $50 million in size, with about 80 users access this
database daily. The back end is SQL, front end Access.
Ok, enough of the history lesson. What I would like to figure out,
since I feel I have become pretty good at creating, modifying/making
databases, is any suggestions on how to get into consulting/freelance
Access work. I know, that I have read other threads, that state there
aren't a number of truly qualified Access developers out there. I've
tried finding free lance sites, but that seems like a fruitless effort.
Any help for a guy in Cincinnati who is trying to make it in life,
would be appreciated. Would be good to hear everyone else's take on
this.
Thanks for looking and commenting. 31 2961
Cy wrote: Hi all,
I wanted to start a thread that might help many of us. I worked for a company for 12 years, until this past Christmas when they let me go. Getting rid of the higher dollar guys, in favor of more profit, was the reasoning. Oh well.
Anyhow. I built this companies network from the ground up. Then about 8 years ago, I developed a MS Access 2.0 database. This database, much like others, was supposed to just tiny bits. Over the course of time, we converted to 97, then to 2000, then this past summer to 2003. The database now runs almost every aspect of the company, from contract management to payroll (outsourced) to contact management to sales to production measurement and budgeting tools, except the Accounting end, yet it interfaces and pulls data out for custom report in Access. Towards the end of my tenor, say the past 3 years, I had 2 guys doing the hardware/break fix, while I spent most of the time developing. The company is about $50 million in size, with about 80 users access this database daily. The back end is SQL, front end Access.
Ok, enough of the history lesson. What I would like to figure out, since I feel I have become pretty good at creating, modifying/making databases, is any suggestions on how to get into consulting/freelance Access work. I know, that I have read other threads, that state there aren't a number of truly qualified Access developers out there. I've tried finding free lance sites, but that seems like a fruitless effort.
Any help for a guy in Cincinnati who is trying to make it in life, would be appreciated. Would be good to hear everyone else's take on this.
Thanks for looking and commenting.
Try these job sites: http://www.dice.com/ http://www.flipdog.com/ http://justsqlserverjobs.com/ http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
Try a temp agency like Robert Half, etc.
--
MGFoster:::mgf00 <at> earthlink <decimal-point> net
Oakland, CA (USA)
Thanks. I wasn't looking to get back into a "job", but rather do
consulting/freelance. I appreciate your "job" sites. Was trying to
get a thread going to "network" with other developers who are doing
freelance type work.
Anyhow, thanks for your help.
"MGFoster" <me@privacy.com> wrote Try these job sites:
http://www.dice.com/ http://www.flipdog.com/ http://justsqlserverjobs.com/ http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
Try a temp agency like Robert Half, etc.
Also, find a user group in your area. Two places to start looking are: http://www.apcug.org and http://www.microsoft.com/communities...sergroups.mspx. I am working on
two contracts right now, both of which originated because of my involvement
with a user group.
In my area, there are a lot of employment firms who "broker" contract
work -- you'd need to ask around in your area.
Volunteer and do DB work for non-profit, charitable organizations. Many
newspapers have a column about volunteer opportunities.
Do NOT advertise in the newsgroups, but provide good answers and include
(munged) contact information in your SIG and you might get some responses.
If you should advertise, you'll be disrespected by responsible participants,
as PC Datasheet is.
Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
Cy,
A note about Larry ---
For the past several years, I have gotten 6 to 10 requests for help each
week, sometimes more, from Access users seeing my signature line in the
newsgroups. A couple of years ago, Larry emailed me and said that he was
having trouble finding work and asked if I would subcontract some of the
work I was doing to him. I didn't because I already had assistance when I
needed it. Now he condemns me for providing help to anyone from the
newsgroups. You might have seen some of the libelous negativity about me in
the newsgroups but the fact is that the number of requests have increased
and I am passing on more work than previously.
--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
Over 1100 users have come to me from the newsgroups requesting help re******@pcdatasheet.com
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:nixCf.175$Cf7.72@trnddc06... "MGFoster" <me@privacy.com> wrote
Try these job sites:
http://www.dice.com/ http://www.flipdog.com/ http://justsqlserverjobs.com/ http://www.usajobs.opm.gov/
Try a temp agency like Robert Half, etc.
Also, find a user group in your area. Two places to start looking are: http://www.apcug.org and http://www.microsoft.com/communities...sergroups.mspx. I am working on two contracts right now, both of which originated because of my involvement with a user group.
In my area, there are a lot of employment firms who "broker" contract work -- you'd need to ask around in your area.
Volunteer and do DB work for non-profit, charitable organizations. Many newspapers have a column about volunteer opportunities.
Do NOT advertise in the newsgroups, but provide good answers and include (munged) contact information in your SIG and you might get some responses. If you should advertise, you'll be disrespected by responsible participants, as PC Datasheet is.
Larry Linson Microsoft Access MVP
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:Ep*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net... I have gotten 6 to 10 requests for help
How many knew that there was a price attached to your "help". These
newsgroups are for free help, not for soliciting.
You might have seen some of the libelous negativity about me in the newsgroups
You need a new dictionary. Check the definition of libel. Can you point out
what was false. Shall we persue you for your libelous statements?
but the fact is that the number of requests have increased and I am passing on more work than previously.
No stevie, the fact is that these newsgroups are for free peer to peer help.
Just because you have been able to con some of
the new users, does not make it right.
John... Visio MVP
Access Developers die at 25 and are buried at 65. Why would you want to
become one?
I graduated from College just before Sputnik. I started to work at NASA
using Clipper and a 286 XT. I developed all their database software and
all their data was stored on three 5.25 inch floppies which were kept
in a briefcase chained to my wrist. Of course, I always had two armed
bodyguards accompanying me everywhere. When I joined the Triple Nine
Society the scientists got jealous and when I applied for the Mega
Society last Christmas that was too much and they let me go. Getting
rid of the higher IQ guys, in favour of more prestige, was the
reasoning.
Here's one of the biggest losers you will ever encounter. All he can do is
pollute the newsgroups with his negativity. He never makes any contribution
to the newsgroups. Some comments---
99% of the requests I get initially start with "What would your fees be to
....."
I provide help for a very reasonable price. Here are a few comments I have
gotten --
I like it a lot. It does exactly what I want, very good job. Thanky you and
I
repeat GOOD JOB
OK, Perfect, well done. See you when I need something more.
Your very helpful email speaks volumes about your level of professionalism.
I will definitely keep your contact information for anyone who needs these
types of services - we very frequently get local businesses
contacting us looking for exactly the type of service you provide.
One word: Wow. I had no clue it could be such an "aesthetically pleasing"
interface. I figured it'd just be a big chart. That's amazing. You've really
helped me cause out a lot, and you've done a tremendous job with this demo.
With this, I can more easily explain how a database could help us out.
Thanks for looking ahead. That is the reason I really feel safe working with
you. couple of the programmers who do work for me, need to be checked to
told to do every step of the way. With you, I just need to tell you what I
need to be done, and you will think ahead of all the problems that might
occur in the process.
And if there is any doubt, look back five posts previous to this one, "What
is the syntax for displaying ....."
Yep Thats the syntax
Thanks a bunch
Jerry
---
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
Over 1100 users have come to me from the newsgroups requesting help re******@pcdatasheet.com
"John Marshall, MVP" <la******@stonehenge.ca> wrote in message
news:nq********************@magma.ca... "PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message news:Ep*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I have gotten 6 to 10 requests for help
How many knew that there was a price attached to your "help". These newsgroups are for free help, not for soliciting.
You might have seen some of the libelous negativity about me in the newsgroups
You need a new dictionary. Check the definition of libel. Can you point out what was false. Shall we persue you for your libelous statements?
but the fact is that the number of requests have increased and I am passing on more work than previously.
No stevie, the fact is that these newsgroups are for free peer to peer help. Just because you have been able to con some of the new users, does not make it right.
John... Visio MVP
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote 99% of the requests I get initially start with "What would your fees be to ...."
If Steve's memory about "helping people" for a fee is as faulty as his
memory about my asking him to throw some work my way, his quotes are not to
be trusted.
And, to think, _he_ tries to label John Marshall, selected by Microsoft to
be an MVP because of his contributions to the user community, as a
"loser" -- it is to laugh.
Poor Steve. There was a time when he, mostly, followed the rules and just
put contact information in his SIG line, but need or greed or something got
the best of him. He apparently can't read the FAQ at http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm, or can't understand it, or (my
guess) just won't abide by it.
Larry Linson
who cast an approving vote for the creation
of this newsgroup back in 1993... you can
find the record of that if you Google
PC Datasheet wrote: I provide help for a very reasonable price. Here are a few comments I have gotten
Oh Jesus Christ, will you just fuck off.
What about for providing advice on pk/fk that betrays a total lack of
knowledge about that most basic of relational database techniques,
implementing table level constraints (aka relations in Jet) for data
integrity? The construction of an interface that allows creation of
orphaned records and relies on form level code to avoid such? And
giving such advice trying to pass yourself off as an authority on such?
OMG, give me a break.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:ss*****************@newsread2.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
<snipped all te crap here> And if there is any doubt, look back five posts previous to this one, "What is the syntax for displaying ....." Yep Thats the syntax Thanks a bunch Jerry
You are a real champion here Steve! Indeed a good answer! Chapeau!
--- PC Datasheet Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications Over 1100 users have come to me from the newsgroups requesting help re******@pcdatasheet.com
--
To Steve:
Over 300 users from the newsgroups have visited the website to read what kind of a 'resource' you are...
To the original poster:
Most people here have a common belief that the newsgroups are for *free exchange of information*.
But Steve is a notorious job hunter in these groups, always trying to sell his services.
Before you intend to do business with him look at: http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (updated)
Arno R
I just find it a bit strange that there are these hordes of people reading
this, all of whom seem to adore Steve, and none of them have ever made the
effort to post a supportive message.
NASA?!
Lyle, do you know if the moon landings were faked?
Or should we consult with Kyle on this question in
order to get the truth?
--
Danny J. Lesandrini
"Lyle Fairfield" <ly***********@aim.com> wrote ... I graduated from College just before Sputnik. I started to work at NASA using Clipper and a 286 XT. I developed all their database software ...
I'm not sure.
Just when Sheppard set his foot on the moon, my partner was having a
big orgasm. I'm pretty sure it was faked bacause she faked everything
else.
Now if we apply that principle to western media, what do we get?
Regardless, all the noise, thrashing and clenching prevented me from
observing carefully.
I don't know what Kyle was doing at the time ... probably something
wild, so he's unlikely to know either.
"John Marshall, MVP" <la******@stonehenge.ca> wrote in
news:nq********************@magma.ca: "PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message news:Ep*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I have gotten 6 to 10 requests for help
How many knew that there was a price attached to your "help". These newsgroups are for free help, not for soliciting.
Just for reference, I get a lot of Access questions via email, and I
refuse to anwwer the questions there. I direct them to post here,
and usually if someone has beaten me to it, I then answer the
question in the newsgroup.
Theoretically, I could charge people for answering their questions,
but I'd much rather contribute to the Access community, which has
provided me with so much.
--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
"Rob Oldfield" <bl**@blah.com> wrote in
news:43**********************@news.zen.co.uk: I just find it a bit strange that there are these hordes of people reading this, all of whom seem to adore Steve, and none of them have ever made the effort to post a supportive message.
Er, don't give him any ideas.
--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/
I never get any Access questions via email, but I answer them right
away and free-of-charge.
Cy wrote: I wanted to start a thread that might help many of us. I worked for a company for 12 years, until this past Christmas when they let me go. Getting rid of the higher dollar guys, in favor of more profit, was the reasoning. Oh well.
Anyhow. I built this companies network from the ground up. Then about 8 years ago, I developed a MS Access 2.0 database. This database, much like others, was supposed to just tiny bits. Over the course of time, we converted to 97, then to 2000, then this past summer to 2003. The database now runs almost every aspect of the company, from contract management to payroll (outsourced) to contact management to sales to production measurement and budgeting tools, except the Accounting end, yet it interfaces and pulls data out for custom report in Access. Towards the end of my tenor, say the past 3 years, I had 2 guys doing the hardware/break fix, while I spent most of the time developing. The company is about $50 million in size, with about 80 users access this database daily. The back end is SQL, front end Access.
Ok, enough of the history lesson. What I would like to figure out, since I feel I have become pretty good at creating, modifying/making databases, is any suggestions on how to get into consulting/freelance Access work. I know, that I have read other threads, that state there aren't a number of truly qualified Access developers out there. I've tried finding free lance sites, but that seems like a fruitless effort.
I can't suggest much in the what to do department beyond
checking the want ads, especially those from consulting
firms. Even if you don't want to work for someone else, it
might keep you going until you can find some contacts of
your own.
Given your description of the db you developed for your
previous employer, sooner or later, I fully expect them to
call you looking for help with another enhancement. If they
do, be sure to charge them the going rate in your area. You
don't owe them anything "for old times sake" and are in a
fairly strong position compared to folks that are unfamiliar
with the company and the db.
--
Marsh
After people read this previous post from Cy I'm sure he'll have
thousands of offers. You'll probably want to hire him to spruce up some
of your code!
**********
1. Cy
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Date: 26 Jan 2006 16:18:49 -0800
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Subject: Method Not Found, Access 97/2000 Conversion
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Hello Fellow New Group Folks,
Here's today's problem. I was called in to help convert an Access 97
database to Access 2000. 99% of all my Access Dev. work has occurred
in 2000, so I know very little about 97, however, from everything I
read, it sounded like a conversion from 97 to 2000 should go smoothly.
Boy was I wrong.
Here's what we got. There is a form, that lists a group of employees.
There is a command button, that when pressed, is supposed to go out and
see if there are any "results" for this particular employee. If there
isn't any results, it is supposed to prompt the user to see if they'd
like to add a result at that time. Works great in 97. Gives a method
not found. I looked at the code, with no avail. Here is the code.
************************************************** ************************************************** *******
Private Sub Results_Click()
On Error GoTo results_err
Dim a, mers As Recordset, f As Form
Dim mydb As Database, resrs As Recordset
If Me.Dirty Then DoCmd.DoMenuItem 0, 0, 4
Select Case Me!stype
Case 2:
Set mers = Me.RecordsetClone
mers.Bookmark = Me.Bookmark
If IsNull(mers.[res_no]) Or mers.[res_no] = 0 Then
a = MsgBox("There are no results yet for this appointment. Do
you wish to add some?", 36, "No results yet")
If a = 6 Then
Set mydb = CurrentDb
Set resrs = mydb.OpenRecordset("result-alcohol")
resrs.AddNew
resrs.date_reptrcv = date
mers.Edit
mers.[res_no] = resrs.result_no
mers.Update
resrs.Update
DoCmd.OpenForm "results-alcohol", , , "[result_no] = " &
CStr(mers.[res_no]), , acDialog
Me!Positive = alcres("results-alcohol")
DoCmd.Close acForm, "results-alcohol"
End If
Else
DoCmd.OpenForm "results-alcohol", , , "[result_no] = " &
CStr(mers.[res_no]), , acDialog
If Forms.[results-alcohol].cpos Then Me!Positive = 1 Else
Me!Positive = 2
DoCmd.Close acForm, "results-alcohol"
End If
Case 3:
Set mers = Me.RecordsetClone
mers.Bookmark = Me.Bookmark
If IsNull(mers.[res_no]) Or mers.[res_no] = 0 Then
a = MsgBox("There are no results yet for this appointment. Do
you wish to add some?", 36, "No results yet")
If a = 6 Then
Set mydb = CurrentDb
Set resrs = mydb.OpenRecordset("result-drug")
resrs.AddNew
resrs.date_reptrcv = date
mers.Edit
mers.[res_no] = resrs.result_no
mers.Update
resrs.Update
DoCmd.OpenForm "drug result", , , "[result_no] = " &
CStr(mers.[res_no]), , acDialog
mers.Edit
If Pos("drug result") Then mers.Positive = 1 Else mers.Positive
= 2
If susp("drug result") Or (mers.Positive = 1) Then mers.mro =
False Else mers.mro = True
mers.Update
DoCmd.Close acForm, "drug result"
End If
Else
DoCmd.OpenForm "drug result", , , "[result_no] = " &
CStr(mers.[res_no]), , acDialog
mers.Edit
If mers.Positive < 3 And Pos("drug result") Then mers.Positive =
1 Else If mers.Positive < 3 Then mers.Positive = 2
If susp("drug result") Or (mers.Positive = 1) Then mers.mro =
False Else mers.mro = True
mers.Update
DoCmd.Close acForm, "drug result"
End If
End Select
Me.Refresh
results_cont:
DoCmd.SetWarnings True: DoCmd.Hourglass False
Exit Sub
results_err:
If Err = 3260 Then
MsgBox "This data is currently locked out. Hit Enter to try again"
DoEvents
Resume
End If
msgdisp
GoTo results_cont
End Sub
************************************************** ************************************************** *****
It fails on this line, so far.
If IsNull(mers.[res_no]) Or mers.[res_no] = 0 Then
What I don't understand is what "method" in 97 is res_no? I was
thinking that the brackets would indicate that it is a field, but there
is no object in the database with that name.
I also know that it fails on this lines as well:
resrs.date_reptrcv = date
and what is date_reptrcv
Any help would be appreciated. If anyone has a utility or something
that helps sift thru this code and made recommendations for changes,
that is helpful also.
No matter what, this group has always been good to help out. Any help
is appreciated.
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Before you intend to do business with him look at: http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/whoissteve.html (updated)
Arno R
Arno, the web site looks good. It's just the facts. Leave the name calling
to datasheet (everyone that disagrees with him is a dimwit, loser, idiot,
goon or worse).
--
Randy Harris
tech at promail dot com
I'm pretty sure I know everything that I can remember.
Lyle Fairfield wrote: After people read this previous post from Cy I'm sure he'll have thousands of offers. You'll probably want to hire him to spruce up some of your code!
Gee, I missed that thread. Well, a lot of us need a little
help now and then, but then I do have to wonder if moving
the DAO ref up the list is part of the "solution" in an
A97-A2K conversion.
--
Marsh
Rob Oldfield wrote: I just find it a bit strange that there are these hordes of people reading this, all of whom seem to adore Steve, and none of them have ever made the effort to post a supportive message.
We've frightened them away, of course. They have an FK of 0.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto
"Marshall Barton" <ma*********@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:fa********************************@4ax.com... Lyle Fairfield wrote:
After people read this previous post from Cy I'm sure he'll have thousands of offers. You'll probably want to hire him to spruce up some of your code!
Gee, I missed that thread. Well, a lot of us need a little help now and then, but then I do have to wonder if moving the DAO ref up the list is part of the "solution" in an A97-A2K conversion.
-- Marsh
Marsh, if you're referring to the post by Wayne Gillespie, he did go on to
stress the importance of disambiguating all of the reference uses. I think
that is what most people would consider a "correct" solution - not relying
on reference priority.
--
Randy Harris
tech at promail dot com
I'm pretty sure I know everything that I can remember.
Randy Harris wrote: "Marshall Barton" wrote Lyle Fairfield wrote:
>After people read this previous post from Cy I'm sure he'll have >thousands of offers. You'll probably want to hire him to spruce up some >of your code!
Gee, I missed that thread. Well, a lot of us need a little help now and then, but then I do have to wonder if moving the DAO ref up the list is part of the "solution" in an A97-A2K conversion.
Marsh, if you're referring to the post by Wayne Gillespie, he did go on to stress the importance of disambiguating all of the reference uses. I think that is what most people would consider a "correct" solution - not relying on reference priority.
No, not Wayne's response. I was referring to the OP's
statement that he had moved ADO up the list. Of course
disambiguating is a good practice, but the odds of having an
A97 mdb that had a reference to ADO below DAO is pretty
slim, especially considering the question. Most often in
these conversions, it is best to just remove the unneeded
ADO reference instead of moving the DAO ref up the list. If
he had just let Access do the conversion, there wouldn't
even have been an ADO ref.
--
Marsh
"Marshall Barton" <ma*********@wowway.com> wrote in message
news:va********************************@4ax.com... Randy Harris wrote:"Marshall Barton" wrote Lyle Fairfield wrote:
>After people read this previous post from Cy I'm sure he'll have Marsh, if you're referring to the post by Wayne Gillespie, he did go on
tostress the importance of disambiguating all of the reference uses. I
thinkthat is what most people would consider a "correct" solution - not
relyingon reference priority.
No, not Wayne's response. I was referring to the OP's statement that he had moved ADO up the list. Of course disambiguating is a good practice, but the odds of having an A97 mdb that had a reference to ADO below DAO is pretty slim, especially considering the question. Most often in these conversions, it is best to just remove the unneeded ADO reference instead of moving the DAO ref up the list. If he had just let Access do the conversion, there wouldn't even have been an ADO ref.
-- Marsh
Oops. Sorry. I misconstrued. (trying to redeem myself by using a 25 cent
word) ;-)
--
Randy Harris
tech at promail dot com
I'm pretty sure I know everything that I can remember.
What about an A97 mdb with literals in place of predefined constants?
What are the odds of that?
I don't have AC97 and I can't remember. Can we get the value of a field
with (just) Recordset.Field in AC97?
I say the odds that the whole cover story is true are pretty slim, and
the odds that the code ever worked anywhere are slim; and how about the
odds that "99% of all my Access Dev. work has occurred in 2000", so I
know very little about 97"; In this thread he writes: "I built this
companies network from the ground up. Then about
8 years ago, I developed a MS Access 2.0 database. This database, much
like others, was supposed to just tiny bits. Over the course of time,
we converted to 97, then to 2000, then this past summer to 2003."
So what, in general am I concerned about? Treating this person's code
as if it's satisfactory, (it's a bucket of shit), and welcoming him to
the great association of Access Developers is a great way of
perpetuating the notion, in the Development world and elsewhere that
Access Development is a joke.
And so, Larry, let's cut through all your subterfuge and evasiveness crap
and I will ask you bluntly --
Isn't it true that a couple of years ago you emailed me and asked if I would
subcontract to you some of the Access database work I was doing for people
who saw my name in the newsgroups and sent me an email requesting fee-based
help from me?
Steve
PC Datasheet
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:1lDCf.1429$5G.18@trnddc08... "PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote
99% of the requests I get initially start with "What would your fees be to ...."
If Steve's memory about "helping people" for a fee is as faulty as his memory about my asking him to throw some work my way, his quotes are not to be trusted.
And, to think, _he_ tries to label John Marshall, selected by Microsoft to be an MVP because of his contributions to the user community, as a "loser" -- it is to laugh.
Poor Steve. There was a time when he, mostly, followed the rules and just put contact information in his SIG line, but need or greed or something got the best of him. He apparently can't read the FAQ at http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm, or can't understand it, or (my guess) just won't abide by it.
Larry Linson
who cast an approving vote for the creation of this newsgroup back in 1993... you can find the record of that if you Google
Apparently, he knows the difference of using e-mails for private business,
but not you.
In an effort of making him look bad (and there is nothing wrong to inquiry
about new potential business), you just confirm your jerk status.
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:by*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net... And so, Larry, let's cut through all your subterfuge and evasiveness crap and I will ask you bluntly --
Isn't it true that a couple of years ago you emailed me and asked if I
would subcontract to you some of the Access database work I was doing for people who saw my name in the newsgroups and sent me an email requesting
fee-based help from me?
Steve PC Datasheet "Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message news:1lDCf.1429$5G.18@trnddc08... "PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote
99% of the requests I get initially start with "What would your fees be to ...."
If Steve's memory about "helping people" for a fee is as faulty as his memory about my asking him to throw some work my way, his quotes are not to be trusted.
And, to think, _he_ tries to label John Marshall, selected by Microsoft
to be an MVP because of his contributions to the user community, as a "loser" -- it is to laugh.
Poor Steve. There was a time when he, mostly, followed the rules and
just put contact information in his SIG line, but need or greed or something got the best of him. He apparently can't read the FAQ at http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm, or can't understand it, or
(my guess) just won't abide by it.
Larry Linson
who cast an approving vote for the creation of this newsgroup back in 1993... you can find the record of that if you Google
Lyle Fairfield wrote: What about an A97 mdb with literals in place of predefined constants? What are the odds of that? I don't have AC97 and I can't remember. Can we get the value of a field with (just) Recordset.Field in AC97? I say the odds that the whole cover story is true are pretty slim, and the odds that the code ever worked anywhere are slim; and how about the odds that "99% of all my Access Dev. work has occurred in 2000", so I know very little about 97"; In this thread he writes: "I built this companies network from the ground up. Then about 8 years ago, I developed a MS Access 2.0 database. This database, much like others, was supposed to just tiny bits. Over the course of time, we converted to 97, then to 2000, then this past summer to 2003."
So what, in general am I concerned about? Treating this person's code as if it's satisfactory, (it's a bucket of shit), and welcoming him to the great association of Access Developers is a great way of perpetuating the notion, in the Development world and elsewhere that Access Development is a joke.
All valid points Lyle. I am guilty of not keeping track of
the context across multiple threads.
His view of his talents is his view, but, as you have
pointed out, it is his work (as demonstrated in the other
thread) that should be evaluated. Perhaps that's what
prompted the situation of this thread?
--
Marsh
"PC Datasheet" wrote And so, Larry, let's cut through all your sub- terfuge and evasiveness crap and I will ask you bluntly --
Isn't it true that a couple of years ago you emailed me and asked if I would subcontract to you some of the Access database work I was doing for people who saw my name in the newsgroups and sent me an email requesting fee-based help from me?
No subterfuge and evasiveness on my part, Steve: The short answer to your
question is "No, I did not."
The longer answer is: Before you began your "intensive advertising" campaign
in the newsgroups*, I corresponded with you by e-mail. It is entirely
possible that I discussed the state of the Access contracting business, and
it is entirely possible that I asked if you were getting any business from
your answers in the newsgroup. It is NOT possible that I asked to
subcontract to you.
* that would be, after you reduced your SIG to four
or five lines, as I advised you to if you wanted to
be accepted by the online community, but before
you began responding with "Contact Me Privately",
trying to sell services that others would provide for
free.
Reasoning behind the long answer: After reading about your dealings with the
subcontractor about whom you first posted to this newsgroup, and your
refusal to pay him (even the agreed hours, if I recall) because he did not
accomplish all you thought he should within the estimate, I would never
consider subcontracting to you. I do not do business with people I know are
not likely to live up to the agreements they make. And you had demonstrated
that was your nature -- that you were looking for excuses not to pay people
for the work they did for you. Life is too short to waste part of it dealing
with people who "stiff" their subcontractors.
Is that sufficiently clear? If not, let me try to be "blunt": I wouldn't
trust you to pay for work that a subcontractor does for you, because you
yourself have said that you did not, in at least that one case.
For the information of anyone reading this: I have done subcontract work for
some participants in CDMA but they were people I could and did trust. And,
it was never work they solicited in the newsgroup. Most of us can read,
don't have any trouble understanding, and abide by the FAQ at http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm and the charter of the newsgroup,
which you can read there.
Larry Linson
"Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote in message
news:FC*******************@newssvr11.news.prodigy. com... Arno, the web site looks good. It's just the facts. Leave the name calling to datasheet (everyone that disagrees with him is a dimwit, loser, idiot, goon or worse).
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