Problems while making MDE

[CTI]

I got problems when I want to make a MDE file. The app. got a lack of
memory.

Bart
Access 2003

[Steve]

Bart,

Amazingly enough, the solution to this problem is to 1) shut down every
possible program on your system when you wish to create your MDE, or 2)
buy more memory. Please note that you must also install said memory -
simply purchasing it will not do the trick.

If neither of these solutions takes care of your problem, you may need
to discharge the static electricity buildup in your CPU. The steps for
doing this are as follows:
1. Make sure your computer is turned on and your monitor is turned off.
2. Hold your computer about 10 inches above the desk surface. Keep a
firm grip.
3. Drop the system onto the desktop. Make sure it lands flat and not to
one side.
4. Repeat Step 3 15-20 times, then check to see if your static
electricity buildup is gone. If not, repeat Step 3 10 more times.
5. Read BOFH.

[Larry Linson]

"CTI" <bv*@cbn.net.id> wrote in message news:43********@news.cbn.net.id...

I got problems when I want to make a MDE file. The app. got a lack of
memory.

I suggest you do not follow Steve's instructions.

Generally, problems in making MDEs are the result of compilation errors in
your MDB. Go into the MDB's module windows, and Compile. Fix the errors, and
see if that takes care of your difficulty.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

[Steve]

Yes, I suggest that you don't actually follow my suggestion as well,
except the part about getting more memory or closing open programs. If
you're getting an error about insufficient memory, chances are good
that your system does not have enough memory to make the MDE. You may
want to try making the MDE on another, better machine before spending
money on new RAM, though.

You may want to read BOFH anyway, for kicks.

[David W. Fenton]

"Steve" <th*********@gmail.com> wrote in
news:11**********************@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com:

Yes, I suggest that you don't actually follow my suggestion as
well, except the part about getting more memory or closing open
programs. If you're getting an error about insufficient memory,
chances are good that your system does not have enough memory to
make the MDE. . . .
Malarkey.
. . . You may
want to try making the MDE on another, better machine before
spending money on new RAM, though.

Most "out of memory" errors on Windows are not about insufficient
RAM, which because of virtual memory and swap files is incredibly
hard to use up, but because of resource problems. It can also be
caused by corrupt files causing a process to go into a loop that
uses up memory.

This latter is the more likely scenario, and is the reason Larry
suggests compiling the MDB before attempting to create the MDE.

Your suggestions betray a lack of understanding of both Windows
hardware/software and Access MDEs.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

[Keith Wilby]

"David W. Fenton" <XX*******@dfenton.com.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xn**********************************@127.0.0. 1...

Your suggestions betray a lack of understanding of both Windows
hardware/software and Access MDEs.

Betray? Display perhaps.

[Steve]

First of all, I've made it no secret that I do not understand or work
with Access MDEs.

Second, nearly every 'out of memory' or 'insufficient memory' error I
have ever gotten was actually a result of the system running out of
resources. Perhaps your version of Windows was programmed by more
malicious Microsoft coders than mine who one day decided to switch all
the error messages around so you'd never really know what the true
problem is or how to fix it.

To quote you:
"It can also be
caused by corrupt files causing a process to go into a loop that
uses up memory. "

Uses up memory? Yes, that sounds like something that would cause an
'out of memory' error...because it's using up all the memory available.

Your response indicates a lack of proofreading.

[Keith Wilby]

"Steve" <th*********@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

Your response indicates a lack of proofreading.

BTW Steve I was in no way agreeing with David in my response, merely
pointing out an example of poor diction. No-one is perfect, some people
need to tell themselves that more often.

[Steve]

Understood, Keith. My own obsession with language and its use causes me
to do the same thing.

With a bit of irony I was about to point out that 'diction' is usually
practiced in a verbal sense, but that it technically applies to both
the written word and the spoken one. Touché.

[Keith Wilby]

"Steve" <th*********@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...

Understood, Keith. My own obsession with language and its use causes me
to do the same thing.

It occurs to me now that the word he may have been searching for is
"portray" but I guess we'll never know as I'm in his killfile ;-)

[Steve]

While David seems to have quite a bit of knowledge to share on the
topic of MS Access, the allegations that have been brought out
concerning a pedophilic appetite for underage males cause me to be very
careful of accepting information from him at face value. I realize that
that Access and the personal life are two very distinct areas for most
people, but to me the allegations about David's personal life seem to
overshadow his contributions that aren't strictly about Access.

David, you are welcome to put me in your killfile; I will still be able
to read your posts, which works for me as the knowledge seems to flow
much harder from your side than mine.

Note that I do not intend to hijack this post, nor am I making any
accusations.

[Tim Marshall]

Steve wrote:

While David seems to have quite a bit of knowledge to share on the
topic of MS Access, the allegations that have been brought out

You are a fucking asshole. SO he's not diplomatic when he trashes you,
there's no need to be a total ass pick from some dark hole.

<PLONK>
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto

[Steve]

I think Tim missed the point there...I don't believe I said anything
about David trashing me...

Either way, I can now relax with killfiled joy.

[Tim Marshall]

Tim Marshall wrote:

You are a

Apologies to all for the profanity.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto

[David W. Fenton]

"Steve" <th*********@gmail.com> wrote in
news:11**********************@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:

First of all, I've made it no secret that I do not understand or
work with Access MDEs.

Second, nearly every 'out of memory' or 'insufficient memory'
error I have ever gotten was actually a result of the system
running out of resources. . . .
That's what I said. That's what you *didn't* say. You said to add
RAM. RAM has nothing to do with resources *except* when extremely
limited (like 64MBs).
. . . Perhaps your version of Windows was programmed by more
malicious Microsoft coders than mine who one day decided to switch
all the error messages around so you'd never really know what the
true problem is or how to fix it.

To quote you:
"It can also be
caused by corrupt files causing a process to go into a loop that
uses up memory. "

Uses up memory? Yes, that sounds like something that would cause
an 'out of memory' error...because it's using up all the memory
available.
An infinite loop is not going to be resolved by adding memory unless
you add an infinite amount of RAM.
Your response indicates a lack of proofreading.

You are an idiot.

<PLONK>

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

[David W. Fenton]

Tim Marshall <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in
news:dp**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca:

Steve wrote:

While David seems to have quite a bit of knowledge to share on
the topic of MS Access, the allegations that have been brought
out

You are a fucking asshole. SO he's not diplomatic when he trashes
you, there's no need to be a total ass pick from some dark hole.

<PLONK>

I beat you to the PLONK.

I had been wondering for several days who this STEVE was, I had
first thought it was perhaps PC Datasheet attempting to launch a new
identity, free of the old associations, but the responses were too
stupid. I then started thinking it was possibly another Don Mellon
sock puppet.

The pedophile reference pretty much proves it, as the only person
who has shown an interest in that subject in these precincts is Don
Mellon.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

[David W. Fenton]

Tim Marshall <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in
news:dp**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca:

Tim Marshall wrote:

You are a

Apologies to all for the profanity.

Sometimes profanity is the only way to express what needs to be
said.

If profanity had no utility, it never would have been invented.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

[Lyle Fairfield]

Compact Oxford English Dictionary

betray

· verb 1 act treacherously towards (a person, country, etc.) by
revealing information to or otherwise aiding an enemy. 2 be disloyal
to. 3 unintentionally reveal; be evidence of.

I had to read and re-read your post to understand what you were
implying as David's sentence was perfectly clear to me. I use [betray]
= [be evidence of] quite often. It is something I grew up with, like
[to spleen against], or [boo-ee (buoy)]; is it merely local usage? As
David uses it and Oxford lists it, I think not.

[Steve]

Eh, I came back to apologize and here I'm already killfield. OK by me.

My name is actually Steve. The only reason I made the pedophile
reference is because of content posted to another newsgroup that was
supposedly taken from David Fenton's own post. I tend to disbelieve
most things of that nature, but the content posted was so disgusting
that I have to at least consider the possibility that it is true, if
carefully.

David, though I haven't attacked you, I do apologize for even writing
the post. I let my own foul mood get the best of me and it came out in
the form of poor judgement. Whether or not you killfile me is your
business. As I said before, most of the knowledge posted by you
supercedes my own, so that information flow will not change.

[rkc]

Steve wrote:

While David seems to have quite a bit of knowledge to share on the
topic of MS Access, the allegations that have been brought out

Totally uncalled for Steve. You should be ashamed.

[Steve]

I notice that no one has actually addressed the issue I (shouldn't
have) raised. Perhaps blind faith isn't all it's cracked up to be.

[Tim Marshall]

David W. Fenton wrote:

Sometimes profanity is the only way to express what needs to be
said.

If profanity had no utility, it never would have been invented.

I'm a former army officer - believe you me, profanity is a wonderful
thing that saves me from having to think about adverbs and adjectives,
but I've found in my 14 years of civilian life it tends to upset
people... 8) When I do get involved in a project with another former
tanker it's wonderful to be able to swear like a soldier again without
having to worry about causing offense...

--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "What's UP, Dittoooooo?" - Ditto

[rkc]

Steve wrote:

I notice that no one has actually addressed the issue I (shouldn't
have) raised. Perhaps blind faith isn't all it's cracked up to be.

It's irrelevant.

[David W. Fenton]

rkc <rk*@rochester.yabba.dabba.do.rr.bomb> wrote in
news:Hz*******************@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

Steve wrote:

I notice that no one has actually addressed the issue I
(shouldn't have) raised. Perhaps blind faith isn't all it's
cracked up to be.

It's irrelevant.

It's also an accusation based on a complete falsehood that has been
refuted many times, and not just by me.

This is clearly a Don Mellon sock puppet again. Killfile him and
ignore him and all will be well for everyone.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.dfenton.com/
usenet at dfenton dot com http://www.dfenton.com/DFA/

[Keith Wilby]

"Steve" <th*********@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:11**********************@g14g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...

While David seems to have quite a bit of knowledge to share on the
topic of MS Access, the allegations that have been brought out
concerning

Umm, David and I may not see eye to eye on certain issues but I don't think
it was necessary to rake up all of that.

[Steve]

I accused no one.

I have yet to see anything David has written to contradict the
accusations that have been made in the past. When I have more time I
will Google him and see what there is to see.

[Lyle Fairfield]

Lasy night in CDMA Larry and I held an election to choose a new judge.
You were not selected. So SHUT UP!

[Steve]

By your logic, anyone who is not a judge cannot speak/post. Therefore,
unless you were elected the new judge, you must abide by the same
restriction.