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A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to make
himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
re******@pcdatasheet.com
Nov 13 '05 #1
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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:1U*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. Nonsense! No other responders, only you
In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. Obvious nonsense also.
Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

True, I *am* monitoring *you* indeed.
We have not seen very much of you lately since the 'Stop Steve' threads.
==> I really hope you are *not* going to show us that all you have learned is *this* ???

IMO it was 'nice' the last month's (almost) without your advertising and job-hunting in the newsgroups ...
So, let's keep it nice.

<snipped the rest , also nonsense IMO>

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #2

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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[snip]
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word


In my opinion, this crosses the line. I've never objected to, nor commented
on, Steve's use of sig line adverstising. This, however, is blatant spam.

Nov 13 '05 #3

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PC Datasheet wrote:
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee.


I can't speak for the other newsgroups, but your behaviour of assuming
personas to ask questions and then answering them yourself on cdma is
deceitful and probably deserving of the ridicule it has received from
Arno and a few others. It's not a violation of the charter, it's just
either kooky behaviour or shystering, depending on one's viewpoint.

On the other hand, your blatant solicitation of business on the
newsgroup is a direct violation of the cdma charter and FAQ, which can
be found at http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm

In particular, this section:

* * * * * * * * * * * *
The following are specifically forbidden in the CDMA newsgroup:

* Advertising of any kind, even if the product is free, a demo, or
otherwise. You may answer a question with a link to a commercial site
which pertains to the question. You may also add a phrase and/or link in
your signature.
* * * * * * * * * * * *

You have refused to abide by this part of the group charter and are
therefore fully deserving of censure, ridicule and heaps of dog dirt
that may be dumped on you. You reap what you sow. Ask yourself why
Arno is "picking on you".

Rather than whinging about someone taking you to task for your behaviour
and sounding like the school yard sneak who bursts into tears when he's
caught, take responsibility for your actions and abide by the group charter.

My feeling is that I would be loathe to hire someone who has a difficult
time following the rules of a forum. Such people who deflect
responsibility for their actions like you are doing rarely are capable
of thinking constructively and don't take comments on their work very
well. You are painting a picture of yourself, steve, so think about
what colours you want to use.

--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Nov 13 '05 #4

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At 7:24 PM Yesterday I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.

Create a query that includes the fields JobTitle and Salary. Set the
criteria of JobTitle to the one you want to give a raise to. Convert the
query to an Update query. Where it says Update To under Salary, put this
expression:
[Salary]+1000

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
At 2:00 today I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.

Start by looking at the Dir function in the Help file.

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Arno R is not the god of the newsgroups. In fact, if you do your homework,
you will be startled by who he is and what he has been doing for a long
time. I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes away
or at least quits harassing me.

Steve
PC Datasheet

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:1U*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to make himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
re******@pcdatasheet.com



Nov 13 '05 #5

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Randy,

You took my statement out of context. The statement was informational to
support the remaining paragraph. Here's the full paragraph ---
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

If you want to find something to comment on or object to, do your homework
on Arno R. You will be startled who he is and what he has been doing for a
long time.

Also, read my response in this thread.

Steve
PC Datasheet

"Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote in message
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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
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[snip]
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word

In my opinion, this crosses the line. I've never objected to, nor

commented on, Steve's use of sig line adverstising. This, however, is blatant spam.

Nov 13 '05 #6

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Timmy,

You do not know of what you speak.!! If you are making up untrue statements
then you are no better than Arno R. I have NEVER asked questions and then
answered them myself on cdma. What is your motive? You are the one that is
being deceitful and exhibiting kooky behaviour or shystering, depending on
one's viewpoint. If you are man enough, I expect an apology and a retraction
from you.

If you do your homework, you will be startled by who Arno R is and what he
has been doing for a long time.

Steve
PC Datasheet

"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee.
I can't speak for the other newsgroups, but your behaviour of assuming
personas to ask questions and then answering them yourself on cdma is
deceitful and probably deserving of the ridicule it has received from
Arno and a few others. It's not a violation of the charter, it's just
either kooky behaviour or shystering, depending on one's viewpoint.

On the other hand, your blatant solicitation of business on the
newsgroup is a direct violation of the cdma charter and FAQ, which can
be found at http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm

In particular, this section:

* * * * * * * * * * * *
The following are specifically forbidden in the CDMA newsgroup:

* Advertising of any kind, even if the product is free, a demo, or
otherwise. You may answer a question with a link to a commercial site
which pertains to the question. You may also add a phrase and/or link in
your signature.
* * * * * * * * * * * *

You have refused to abide by this part of the group charter and are
therefore fully deserving of censure, ridicule and heaps of dog dirt
that may be dumped on you. You reap what you sow. Ask yourself why
Arno is "picking on you".

Rather than whinging about someone taking you to task for your behaviour
and sounding like the school yard sneak who bursts into tears when he's
caught, take responsibility for your actions and abide by the group

charter.
My feeling is that I would be loathe to hire someone who has a difficult
time following the rules of a forum. Such people who deflect
responsibility for their actions like you are doing rarely are capable
of thinking constructively and don't take comments on their work very
well. You are painting a picture of yourself, steve, so think about
what colours you want to use.

--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me

Nov 13 '05 #7

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At 3:54 today I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.Queries newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R responded with his harrassing post.

Create a table of numbers from 10000 to 20000. Then create an unmatched
query to look for numers in the number table that are not in the part number
table.

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Arno R is not the god of the newsgroups. In fact, if you do your homework,
you will be startled by who he is and what he has been doing for a long
time. I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes away
or at least quits harassing me.

Steve
PC Datasheet
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:1U*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to make himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
re******@pcdatasheet.com

Nov 13 '05 #8

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PC Datasheet wrote:
You do not know of what you speak.!! If you are making up untrue statements
then you are no better than Arno R. I have NEVER asked questions and then
answered them myself on cdma. What is your motive?


Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona and
accidentally leaving your PC datasheet sig, is one example. These
"outings" were *NOT* first discovered by Arno, but by one or possibly
two very big and well respected guns on cdma.

Look. You *ARE* helpful to other posters here in answering questions.
Leave it at that and stop violating the group charter, because you make
yourself look bad by being involved in any flame war. Note again my
metaphor of what colours you want to paint yourself with.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Nov 13 '05 #9

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"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
You do not know of what you speak.!! If you are making up untrue statements then you are no better than Arno R. I have NEVER asked questions and then answered them myself on cdma. What is your motive?


Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona and
accidentally leaving your PC datasheet sig, is one example. These
"outings" were *NOT* first discovered by Arno, but by one or possibly
two very big and well respected guns on cdma.

Look. You *ARE* helpful to other posters here in answering questions.
Leave it at that and stop violating the group charter, because you make
yourself look bad by being involved in any flame war. Note again my
metaphor of what colours you want to paint yourself with.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me


Steve, I think that a great many of us that follow these newsgroups feel the
same as Tim on this matter. Do yourself a favor, avoid the flame war and
simply continue to help people by answering questions. You've been doing
that quite ably for a long time.

Nov 13 '05 #10

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WSF
I have been observing this soap for a while now. What fun!
The forums have been a very very valuable source, helping me out of a
code pothole or three, sometimes in very quick time. I post a question
while working on a project - the answer can come from any corner of the
Globe, sometimes in minutes! For an old fart like me that's incredible -
beats going down to the library of twenty years ago and spending hours
not finding the answer! Hell, I have even contributed too, especially in
Excel, which I can make dance and answer back! But Access, after years
of me using it still tests my patience sometimes. So thank heaven for
the forums and those contributing - sure there are the regulars, the
guru's - and Google too! Even our friend PC Datasheet has responded to a
question or two of mine. That is appreciated.

But Steve, if that is your real name, in attempting some kind of
redemption you incite response from people who seem level-headed in
their response to your plight.

I cannot help thinking that the attitude I see here today, with due
respect, is like having someone go into a Citizens' Advice Bureau for
advice, only to be handed a business card by the CAB volunteer with the
whisper "If that don't fix your problem give me a call - my charges are
reasonable".

Steve, when are you going to realise you are up against it? Your are
being toasted! You refer in your post to "customers". If indeed you have
a customer base surely they are your best resource for ongoing business?
Not sly advertising on a volunteer forum?

Your website tells us nothing - it does not say who you are or what you
are. Considering your indignity at the treatment you claim to suffer at
the hands of the likes of Arno R your credentials are rather thin.

In it you list among your qualifications a "Library (Indexed) of Over
1000 Procedures Taken From Various Sources", "Large library of Reference
Books", yet not one formal IS/IT qualification based on study or
recognised work experience, or a genuine testimonial with bona fide links.

Contribute like others, but without the commercials. It really is
appreciated. Arno R is, just maybe, a defender of the Realm!
It really is a matter of keeping the NG faith.
And let's keep our sense of humour guys.

WSF

ps I just had a couple of minutes to kill before dinner, vent my spleen
so to say. Ah, that feels better. Look out, here come the cook with the
chook! And roast veggies, gravy - Yummmmmm! where's the vino!

PC Datasheet wrote:
A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to make
himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
re******@pcdatasheet.com

Nov 13 '05 #11

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I may be missing this, but what was harrassing about the first post?
Granted the second doesn't doesn't go into the detail that probably
could, however I myself have posted quick responses where I felt that I
didn't have the time to go into detail, but still wanted to point the
person in the right direction. I haven't been accused of harrasement.
What I do find disturbing is

#1) *YOU* have posted this thread to multiple newsgroups. Which I see as
nothing short of harrasement on *YOUR* part, as multiple posting annoy
all of us.

#2) "I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes
away or at least quits harassing me." That statement is nothing short of
harrasment in and of itself. Quite frankly, if you're being harrased
thats one thing but as a frequent visitor one of the many threads that
you've posted to, I myself do not appreciate the thought of seeing your
tirades posted over and over again. If you're that upset, create a blog.
This (these) newsgroups are *NOT* your personal forumns.
State your case and *GET OVER IT*.

For the records *I* will NOT be replying to any other related messages
simply to avoid further SPAMMING the newsgroups.

David H

PC Datasheet wrote:
At 7:24 PM Yesterday I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.

Create a query that includes the fields JobTitle and Salary. Set the
criteria of JobTitle to the one you want to give a raise to. Convert the
query to an Update query. Where it says Update To under Salary, put this
expression:
[Salary]+1000

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com
At 2:00 today I responded to a post on the
Microsoft.Public.Access.GettingStarted newsgroup with the following advice.
Arno R
responded with his harrassing post.

Start by looking at the Dir function in the Help file.

--
PC Datasheet
Your Resource For Help With Access, Excel And Word Applications
re******@pcdatasheet.com
www.pcdatasheet.com

Arno R is not the god of the newsgroups. In fact, if you do your homework,
you will be startled by who he is and what he has been doing for a long
time. I am going to post my "To All" post frequently until Arno R goes away
or at least quits harassing me.

Steve
PC Datasheet

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:1U*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to


make
himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for


problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like


me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
re******@pcdatasheet.com



Nov 13 '05 #12

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:Ei*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
If you want to find something to comment on or object to, do your homework
on Arno R. You will be startled who he is and what he has been doing for a
long time.


Feel free to show us Steve ... Any links or so ??
All your accusations against me are merely a classic example of what is called 'projection' in psychology.

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #13

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Arno R is a virus to the newsgroups and anyone supporting what he is doing
is propagating the virus. He is a little person with very low self esteem
looking for ways to make himself look like the big person he is not.
Sometime ago there were two very frequent contributors to
Comp.Databases.MS-Access and Microsoft.Public.Access.Reports. These two
individuals were particularly experst in reports and frequently shared their
knowledge. Arno R targetted these two individuals with slander, ridicule and
general harassment. They had done nothing to deserve such treatment. He was
chastised by other regular contributors to the nesgroups but ignored them.
Arno R sought the power of being able to destroy two very capable
contributors to the newsgroups. He succeeded!! You won't see these two
contributors in the newsgroups anymore. Some of you who have been around a
long time might recall who I am talking about. The power Arno R thought he
had gotten from this episode apparently was not enough for him. It wasn't
long after that that he began projecting himself as an MVP under many
aliases. This continued for some time. Again apparently the initials MVP
after alias names did not give him the recognition he sought so after some
time he stopped his impersonation. His low self esteem still was there so
his next episode was to post questions to the newsgroups and then answer
them under a multitude of aliases. Just as the perpetraters of viruses, he
has the skills it takes to execute these charades. Evidence how he is able
to trace every post I have made. But just as the perpetrators of viruses, he
channels these skills in wrong directions. For a while Arno R's esteem got a
boost. However, again apparently he realized that any praise he was
receiving for his responses was not coming from any outsiders but from only
himself. The number of posts and counter responses waned and finally
disappeared. And now the cycle is beginning all over. His goal is to be
thought of as the god of the newsgroups. Don't support him.

Steve
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:1U*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to make himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
re******@pcdatasheet.com

Nov 13 '05 #14

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"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona...

Being an MVP, I really don't have a problem with people taking on a female
persona.

Nov 13 '05 #15

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Tim,

Once again you don't know what you are talking about!!

It was NEVER demonstrated by other posters that asked questions and then
answered them myself on CDMA. You are like Arno R; just making up slanderous
statements!!! What is YOUR motive?

Are you man enough to apologize and retract your statements?

Steve
"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
You do not know of what you speak.!! If you are making up untrue statements then you are no better than Arno R. I have NEVER asked questions and then answered them myself on cdma. What is your motive?


Your behaviour in this regard has been demonstrated and proven by other
posters, a couple of times this year - taking on female persona and
accidentally leaving your PC datasheet sig, is one example. These
"outings" were *NOT* first discovered by Arno, but by one or possibly
two very big and well respected guns on cdma.

Look. You *ARE* helpful to other posters here in answering questions.
Leave it at that and stop violating the group charter, because you make
yourself look bad by being involved in any flame war. Note again my
metaphor of what colours you want to paint yourself with.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me

Nov 13 '05 #16

P: n/a
Someone impersonating "Larry Linson" <no****@nospam.net> wrote
Being an MVP, I really don't have
a problem with people taking on
a female persona.


Poor, poor Don... still has too much time on his hands, but he's pretty hard
up to have to impersonate _me_. If my memory doesn't fail, I think it was
Don himself who said "never trust the name on any newsgroup post to be
correct". I didn't realize he would feel it worth his while to try to prove
that...

Larry Linson
Nov 13 '05 #17

P: n/a
What your saying that that post by George W. Bush asking for help in
automating his Outlook calendar wasn't from the President?

Larry Linson wrote:
Someone impersonating "Larry Linson" <no****@nospam.net> wrote
> Being an MVP, I really don't have
> a problem with people taking on
> a female persona.


Poor, poor Don... still has too much time on his hands, but he's pretty hard
up to have to impersonate _me_. If my memory doesn't fail, I think it was
Don himself who said "never trust the name on any newsgroup post to be
correct". I didn't realize he would feel it worth his while to try to prove
that...

Larry Linson

Nov 13 '05 #18

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WSF
Hey, this is fun.
It gives a new meaning to the word "Jerk!"
It brings out the paranoid in me - the masochist - the the the splut,
splut, sput.............

Steve, open the window mate. A persecution complex makes pathetic
reading. Stick to helping posters with their questions without the
commercials and maybe, just maybe, Arno will leave you alone.

Hmmmm. Maybe you are ARNO in drag?

Now there's a thought.

WSF
PC Datasheet wrote:
Arno R is a virus to the newsgroups and anyone supporting what he is doing
is propagating the virus. He is a little person with very low self esteem
looking for ways to make himself look like the big person he is not.
Sometime ago there were two very frequent contributors to
Comp.Databases.MS-Access and Microsoft.Public.Access.Reports. These two
individuals were particularly experst in reports and frequently shared their
knowledge. Arno R targetted these two individuals with slander, ridicule and
general harassment. They had done nothing to deserve such treatment. He was
chastised by other regular contributors to the nesgroups but ignored them.
Arno R sought the power of being able to destroy two very capable
contributors to the newsgroups. He succeeded!! You won't see these two
contributors in the newsgroups anymore. Some of you who have been around a
long time might recall who I am talking about. The power Arno R thought he
had gotten from this episode apparently was not enough for him. It wasn't
long after that that he began projecting himself as an MVP under many
aliases. This continued for some time. Again apparently the initials MVP
after alias names did not give him the recognition he sought so after some
time he stopped his impersonation. His low self esteem still was there so
his next episode was to post questions to the newsgroups and then answer
them under a multitude of aliases. Just as the perpetraters of viruses, he
has the skills it takes to execute these charades. Evidence how he is able
to trace every post I have made. But just as the perpetrators of viruses, he
channels these skills in wrong directions. For a while Arno R's esteem got a
boost. However, again apparently he realized that any praise he was
receiving for his responses was not coming from any outsiders but from only
himself. The number of posts and counter responses waned and finally
disappeared. And now the cycle is beginning all over. His goal is to be
thought of as the god of the newsgroups. Don't support him.

Steve
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:1U*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to


make
himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for


problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like


me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely! Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
re******@pcdatasheet.com


Nov 13 '05 #19

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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:1U*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...

<snip drivel>

What is your question about MS Access? FFS, nobody CARES if someone is
coming after you. We care about helping people using Access, that's all.
That's what this forum is for. Please respect this. All you need to do to
silence Arno is to just help people where you can without ushering them into
your business' waiting room. If helping people *indirectly* helps your
business then fine, but belly-aching on here before the entire Access
community is going to harm it big time IMO.

Keith.
Nov 13 '05 #20

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PC Datasheet wrote:
It was NEVER demonstrated by other posters that asked questions and then
answered them myself on CDMA. You are like Arno R; just making up slanderous
statements!!! What is YOUR motive?
<sigh> Yes it has. Conclusively. There's enough crap here on your
advertizing that can be found on google.

You're really going to say you didn't post under other persona and
accidentally leave your PC Datasheet on there? I've seen it on Google
when it was pointed out. I'm not going back to look for it again. If
you've Google nuked your posts, my university server still has an
archive, but I'm simply not going through the trouble of going through it.

You've been busted. Now shut up and participate properly in the group.
Are you man enough to apologize and retract your statements?


There's nothing to retract. Are you "man enough" to take responsiblity
for your actions and abide by the charter?

Shut up and participate properly in the group.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Nov 13 '05 #21

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"Larry Linson" <no****@nospam.net> wrote:
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Please ignore the above posting and others which are somewhat bizarre.

Note to persons new to this newsgroup. One person, with many identities, is being
rather disruptive. If you see a bizarre posting it's probably the work of this
disruptive person..

Check the headers of the posting. If you see the following the posting likely can be
ignored. Of course, there will likely be other headers to be added to this list.

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Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Nov 13 '05 #22

P: n/a
You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false. What
was YOUR motive? That is what I am asking if you are man enough to apologize
for and retract.

Steve
"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:42**************@PurplePandaChasers.Moertheri um...
PC Datasheet wrote:
It was NEVER demonstrated by other posters that asked questions and then
answered them myself on CDMA. You are like Arno R; just making up slanderous statements!!! What is YOUR motive?


<sigh> Yes it has. Conclusively. There's enough crap here on your
advertizing that can be found on google.

You're really going to say you didn't post under other persona and
accidentally leave your PC Datasheet on there? I've seen it on Google
when it was pointed out. I'm not going back to look for it again. If
you've Google nuked your posts, my university server still has an
archive, but I'm simply not going through the trouble of going through it.

You've been busted. Now shut up and participate properly in the group.
Are you man enough to apologize and retract your statements?


There's nothing to retract. Are you "man enough" to take responsiblity
for your actions and abide by the charter?

Shut up and participate properly in the group.
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me

Nov 13 '05 #23

P: n/a
PC Datasheet wrote:
You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false.


No, I said it was true and has been demonstrated by a couple of posters.
I looked at the google cites when it was done and it was enough for me.

Grow up and stop wasting your energy on this attempt to deflect
attention from your behaviour to others. You are sounding like a dog
howling at the moon. I've said you provide useful advice to some
questions on cdma. Why not concentrate on that?
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Nov 13 '05 #24

P: n/a
WSF <so*****@microsoft.com> wrote:
In it you list among your qualifications a "Library (Indexed) of Over
1000 Procedures Taken From Various Sources", "Large library of Reference
Books", yet not one formal IS/IT qualification based on study or
recognised work experience, or a genuine testimonial with bona fide links.


FWIW I nave no formal qualifications. And a few testimonials, which are now six or
seven years old, but by people with just their initials.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Nov 13 '05 #25

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You're a liar!

There are no Google cites to that effect and there are no posters that
demonstrated that I asked questions and then answered them myself on CDMA.
"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false.


No, I said it was true and has been demonstrated by a couple of posters.
I looked at the google cites when it was done and it was enough for me.

Grow up and stop wasting your energy on this attempt to deflect
attention from your behaviour to others. You are sounding like a dog
howling at the moon. I've said you provide useful advice to some
questions on cdma. Why not concentrate on that?
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me

Nov 13 '05 #26

P: n/a

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:dq****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false. What
was YOUR motive? That is what I am asking if you are man enough to apologize
for and retract.

Steve


It might be a surprise Steve, but I will come to your aid here...
*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own questions on cdma.
If so, I would certainly have added that to my list. You can be sure of that!

It is possible that Tim or/and others got a little 'confused' seeing posts from:
- Kristine where you signed as PCDataSheet
- PCDataSheet where you signed as Kristine
- Heather where you signed as PCDataSheet
- advertising as PC and defending this as Melanie (signed by Steve again...)
- answering in the same thread as PC and Kristine
and so on.

The examples I give here were indeed 'answering-posts', and not original questions posed by your multiple personae.
I guess these were all just mistakes. You only took the wrong identity or the wrong signature and/or both.
This 'kind of living' must be rather confusing for you ...
I for myself am already getting a little confused, using only two (2) identities here...

But what is the issue here? and who is 'skirting the issue'?
==>> The issue here is your advertising, nothing more, nothing less.
************************************************** *******
As for apologies: I think *you* owe these groups some apologies.

Proposal:
-- You will stop advertising
-- I will stop hunting you

Btw: I provide links for what I am saying here. I am still waiting for any 'proof' of your accusations against me.

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #27

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"Tony Toews" wrote
FWIW I nave no formal qualifications.
And a few testimonials, which are now
six or seven years old, but by people
with just their initials.


Your answers prove that you are qualified, Tony, whether you have "formal
qualifications" or not. Count this as a current testimonial, and, by the
way, I often tell people "the best collection of information and links about
Access in the multiuser environment is MVP Tony Toews' website at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm." Let me add that it's also chock-full
of other very useful information.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

(And this ain't Donnie foolin' around, either!)
Nov 13 '05 #28

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"WSF" wrote
Hmmmm. Maybe you are ARNO in drag?


I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>
Nov 13 '05 #29

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PC Datasheet wrote:
You're a liar!
I think you should calm down. Braying at the moon will not make it go away.
There are no Google cites to that effect and there are no posters that
demonstrated that I asked questions and then answered them myself on CDMA.


If they are not there now, it's because you had them nuked - I'm not
sure if you can do this like you used to be able to do on Deja.

Anyway, let's leave it at this shall we? You have your opinion of me
and I have an opinion of your behaviour. What you're experiencing here
is how usenet works when someone abuses it.

You truly don't think some of us got together and decided we'd pick on a
random poster do you? Or perhaps you do....

Anyway, let's got on with it. I look forward to reading your legitimate
answers to posts and am sure that some of these may also be of help to
me as they have in the past, OK?
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Nov 13 '05 #30

P: n/a
Larry Linson wrote:
I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>


A good friend of mine who is an author says exactly this: bad publicity
also sells books...

--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Nov 13 '05 #31

P: n/a

"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> schreef in bericht news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
Larry Linson wrote:
I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>


A good friend of mine who is an author says exactly this: bad publicity
also sells books...


Steve also knows this:
<start quote PCDatasheet (he is 'talking' to me)>
GO TO HELL !!!!

And by the way Greaseball,

I got seven projects from the newsgroup in the last four weeks. Three were
the result of my responses on the newsgroup AND four (YES 4) were the result
of you advertising for me. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!!

Steve
<end quote PCDatasheet>

Arno R


Nov 13 '05 #32

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Walk away, folks. He isn't worth the continued trouble.

Nov 13 '05 #33

P: n/a
In case you haven't read this - it's from an unexpected source!!

*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own
questions on cdma.
Arno R

There was nothing ever there to be NUKED!!!

What you said was a total fabrication for whatever your motive was. NOW, are
you man enough to apologize and retract all your statements???

Steve

"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
You're a liar!
I think you should calm down. Braying at the moon will not make it go

away.
There are no Google cites to that effect and there are no posters that
demonstrated that I asked questions and then answered them myself on
CDMA.
If they are not there now, it's because you had them nuked - I'm not
sure if you can do this like you used to be able to do on Deja.

Anyway, let's leave it at this shall we? You have your opinion of me
and I have an opinion of your behaviour. What you're experiencing here
is how usenet works when someone abuses it.

You truly don't think some of us got together and decided we'd pick on a
random poster do you? Or perhaps you do....

Anyway, let's got on with it. I look forward to reading your legitimate
answers to posts and am sure that some of these may also be of help to
me as they have in the past, OK?
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me

Nov 13 '05 #34

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I am never unapreciative when someone does me a good turn. Consider this a
sincere thank you for the fortitude to step up and for being honest about
it!!

Steve
"StopThisAdvertising" <StopThisAdvertising@DataShit> wrote in message
news:42*********************@dreader2.news.tiscali .nl...

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht
news:dq****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false. What
was YOUR motive? That is what I am asking if you are man enough to apologize for and retract.

Steve


It might be a surprise Steve, but I will come to your aid here...
*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own
questions on cdma.
If so, I would certainly have added that to my list. You can be sure of
that!

It is possible that Tim or/and others got a little 'confused' seeing posts
from:
- Kristine where you signed as PCDataSheet
- PCDataSheet where you signed as Kristine
- Heather where you signed as PCDataSheet
- advertising as PC and defending this as Melanie (signed by Steve again...)
- answering in the same thread as PC and Kristine
and so on.

The examples I give here were indeed 'answering-posts', and not original
questions posed by your multiple personae.
I guess these were all just mistakes. You only took the wrong identity or
the wrong signature and/or both.
This 'kind of living' must be rather confusing for you ...
I for myself am already getting a little confused, using only two (2)
identities here...

But what is the issue here? and who is 'skirting the issue'?
==>> The issue here is your advertising, nothing more, nothing less.
************************************************** *******
As for apologies: I think *you* owe these groups some apologies.

Proposal:
-- You will stop advertising
-- I will stop hunting you

Btw: I provide links for what I am saying here. I am still waiting for any
'proof' of your accusations against me.

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #35

P: n/a

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:q%*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
I am never unapreciative when someone does me a good turn. Consider this a
sincere thank you for the fortitude to step up and for being honest about
it!!

Steve


Why not a reaction on my proposal ?
-- You will stop advertising
-- I will stop hunting you

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #36

P: n/a

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:iV*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
In case you haven't read this - it's from an unexpected source!!

*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own
questions on cdma.
Arno R

There was nothing ever there to be NUKED!!!

What you said was a total fabrication for whatever your motive was. NOW, are
you man enough to apologize and retract all your statements???

Steve


Stop this pathetic behaviour... The issue here from the beginning is *your* advertising!

What about my proposal ?
-- You will stop advertising
-- I will stop hunting you
Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #37

P: n/a

"StopThisAdvertising" <StopThisAdvertising@DataShit> wrote in message
news:42*********************@dreader2.news.tiscali .nl...

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht
news:dq****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered
them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false. What
was YOUR motive? That is what I am asking if you are man enough to
apologize
for and retract.

Steve


It might be a surprise Steve, but I will come to your aid here...
*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own
questions on cdma.
If so, I would certainly have added that to my list. You can be sure of
that!

Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may well
have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the awful
things Steve's meant to have done.

I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
honest.

Mike MacSween
Nov 13 '05 #38

P: n/a

"Mike MacSween" <mi***************************@btinternet.com> schreef in bericht news:42***********************@news.aaisp.net.uk.. .

Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may well
have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the awful
things Steve's meant to have done.

I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
honest.

Mike MacSween


There have been a few threads on 'Stop Steve ....',
Also I provide a link to a webpage in every post where I am hunting Steve.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/stopsteve.html
On this page you can find al lot of links, about what I state about Steve.
*Everything* I state is (sad but) true.
At first (in April when I started 'Stop Steve ...") the links were in the mail here at cdma, but the 'wordwrap' issue was a problem.
On the webpage every link is a valid link. You will be surprised or stunned or both.
Do a Google search on the string " ks*******@bellsouth.net PCDataSheet " to see some cases where he makes 'mistakes'.

This 'thing' has been going on for years and years!! Enjoy!

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #39

P: n/a
Well, I said that I wasn't going to comment on this, but reading the
replies is giving me quite the laugh. I just find it very difficult to
take someone seriously who keeps ranting and raving over something he
doesn't have control over. Its quite entertaining.

WSF wrote:
Hey, this is fun.
It gives a new meaning to the word "Jerk!"
It brings out the paranoid in me - the masochist - the the the splut,
splut, sput.............

Steve, open the window mate. A persecution complex makes pathetic
reading. Stick to helping posters with their questions without the
commercials and maybe, just maybe, Arno will leave you alone.

Hmmmm. Maybe you are ARNO in drag?

Now there's a thought.

WSF
PC Datasheet wrote:
Arno R is a virus to the newsgroups and anyone supporting what he is
doing
is propagating the virus. He is a little person with very low self esteem
looking for ways to make himself look like the big person he is not.
Sometime ago there were two very frequent contributors to
Comp.Databases.MS-Access and Microsoft.Public.Access.Reports. These two
individuals were particularly experst in reports and frequently shared
their
knowledge. Arno R targetted these two individuals with slander,
ridicule and
general harassment. They had done nothing to deserve such treatment.
He was
chastised by other regular contributors to the nesgroups but ignored
them.
Arno R sought the power of being able to destroy two very capable
contributors to the newsgroups. He succeeded!! You won't see these two
contributors in the newsgroups anymore. Some of you who have been
around a
long time might recall who I am talking about. The power Arno R
thought he
had gotten from this episode apparently was not enough for him. It wasn't
long after that that he began projecting himself as an MVP under many
aliases. This continued for some time. Again apparently the initials MVP
after alias names did not give him the recognition he sought so after
some
time he stopped his impersonation. His low self esteem still was there so
his next episode was to post questions to the newsgroups and then answer
them under a multitude of aliases. Just as the perpetraters of
viruses, he
has the skills it takes to execute these charades. Evidence how he is
able
to trace every post I have made. But just as the perpetrators of
viruses, he
channels these skills in wrong directions. For a while Arno R's esteem
got a
boost. However, again apparently he realized that any praise he was
receiving for his responses was not coming from any outsiders but from
only
himself. The number of posts and counter responses waned and finally
disappeared. And now the cycle is beginning all over. His goal is to be
thought of as the god of the newsgroups. Don't support him.

Steve
"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> wrote in message
news:1U*****************@newsread1.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
A person going by Arno R has been harassing me and other responders
to the
newsgroups. In the past he has posted slanderous obscenities about
responders and now this is his new bag of tricks. He is a small-minded
individual with low self esteem and continually looking for a means to

make
himself look like a big person, the god of the newsgroups. Here is
how he
responds to the question of who monitors the newsgroups:

FYI Steve:
*I* am monitoring this group (and other groups ...)

Arno R

Ignore him!

I am in business to provide customers with a resource for help with
Microsoft Access, Excel and Word
applications. I provide help for a very reasonable fee. Sometimes when I
respond to a poster with a complex problem, I usually outline to him
what
needs done then offer my help as an alternative. The following is a
quote
from a recent poster to a newsgroup who contacted me with his problem:
"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for

problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like

me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality." And a poster who contacted me, paid me for some help and then
said:
"Wow. This is nice. Very nice. This should help us immensely!
Thank you
so much for your help."

Ignore Arno R and eventually he will go away!

Steve
PC Datasheet
re******@pcdatasheet.com


Nov 13 '05 #40

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Mike,

I'll save you time ---

It all comes down to times when I thought a post was beyond the scope of a
volunteer forum, the nature of the question suggested the poster did not
have the skills to implement a solution or just that the poster would
welcome an alternative way to solve his problem and I used a simple phrase,
"Contact me if you would like my help."

Steve

Here's a quote from someone who recently did contact me after that
message ---

"Hey, nothing wrong with letting people know you can help them for problems
that go beyond the scope of a volunteer discussion group. Rookies like me
sometimes expect miracles on those types of websites and that just isn't
reality."
"Mike MacSween" <mi***************************@btinternet.com> wrote in
message news:42***********************@news.aaisp.net.uk.. .

"StopThisAdvertising" <StopThisAdvertising@DataShit> wrote in message
news:42*********************@dreader2.news.tiscali .nl...

"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht
news:dq****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthli nk.net...
You're skirting the issue!! You made the statement that it has been
demonstrated by other poster that I have asked questions and then answered them myself on CDMA. You fabricated that and it is absolutely false. What was YOUR motive? That is what I am asking if you are man enough to
apologize
for and retract.

Steve
It might be a surprise Steve, but I will come to your aid here...
*I* (and I Googled a lot...) have never seen you answering your own
questions on cdma.
If so, I would certainly have added that to my list. You can be sure of
that!

Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may

well have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the awful things Steve's meant to have done.

I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
honest.

Mike MacSween

Nov 13 '05 #41

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<<*Everything* I state is (sad but) true.>>

Arno R made this statement. Just like Tim Marshall, it is a fabrication not
supported by facts. Arno R may try and support his statement with past links
but he does not have the facts about these links and this makes him a
prevaricator like Tim Marshall. In due time after I complete my homework, I
will have some facts about some of my critics.

Steve

"Arno R" <ar***********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:42*********************@dreader2.news.tiscali .nl...

"Mike MacSween" <mi***************************@btinternet.com> schreef in
bericht news:42***********************@news.aaisp.net.uk.. .

Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may well have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the awful things Steve's meant to have done.

I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
honest.

Mike MacSween


There have been a few threads on 'Stop Steve ....',
Also I provide a link to a webpage in every post where I am hunting Steve.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/stopsteve.html
On this page you can find al lot of links, about what I state about Steve.
*Everything* I state is (sad but) true.
At first (in April when I started 'Stop Steve ...") the links were in the
mail here at cdma, but the 'wordwrap' issue was a problem.
On the webpage every link is a valid link. You will be surprised or stunned
or both.
Do a Google search on the string " ks*******@bellsouth.net PCDataSheet "
to see some cases where he makes 'mistakes'.

This 'thing' has been going on for years and years!! Enjoy!

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #42

P: n/a
Sep 16, 2002 10:42PM
Kristine posted a message with Steve's sig using the same posting host that
Steve uses.
Bizarre coincidence.

Nov 13 '05 #43

P: n/a

"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:p1********************************@4ax.com...
FWIW I nave no formal qualifications. And a few testimonials, which are
now six or
seven years old, but by people with just their initials.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP

And English is your second language. Any other tips on becoming an MVP?
Nov 13 '05 #44

P: n/a
Thanks Arno.

I'd forgotten the 'fairy' thing and the rip off that Neil Ginsberg posted
about.

Mike

"Arno R" <ar***********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:42*********************@dreader2.news.tiscali .nl...

"Mike MacSween" <mi***************************@btinternet.com> schreef in
bericht news:42***********************@news.aaisp.net.uk.. .

Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may
well
have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the
awful
things Steve's meant to have done.

I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
honest.

Mike MacSween


There have been a few threads on 'Stop Steve ....',
Also I provide a link to a webpage in every post where I am hunting Steve.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/stopsteve.html
On this page you can find al lot of links, about what I state about Steve.
*Everything* I state is (sad but) true.
At first (in April when I started 'Stop Steve ...") the links were in the
mail here at cdma, but the 'wordwrap' issue was a problem.
On the webpage every link is a valid link. You will be surprised or stunned
or both.
Do a Google search on the string " ks*******@bellsouth.net PCDataSheet "
to see some cases where he makes 'mistakes'.

This 'thing' has been going on for years and years!! Enjoy!

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #45

P: n/a
May 7 Neil Ginsberg followed up in the thread "Stop Steve why ???'

He refers to the 'scam-alert' here where I say:
-- There also has been a 'Scam-alert'. If this is only partial true ...

<start quote>
Arno:
I am the one who wrote that message in this newsgroup back in 2001. I can
tell you most assuredly that what is written there is 100% true.

Neil Ginsberg
<end quote>

Arno R

"Mike MacSween" <mi***************************@btinternet.com> schreef in bericht news:42***********************@news.aaisp.net.uk.. .
Thanks Arno.

I'd forgotten the 'fairy' thing and the rip off that Neil Ginsberg posted
about.

Mike

"Arno R" <ar***********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:42*********************@dreader2.news.tiscali .nl...

"Mike MacSween" <mi***************************@btinternet.com> schreef in
bericht news:42***********************@news.aaisp.net.uk.. .

Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may
well
have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the
awful
things Steve's meant to have done.

I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
honest.

Mike MacSween


There have been a few threads on 'Stop Steve ....',
Also I provide a link to a webpage in every post where I am hunting Steve.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/stopsteve.html
On this page you can find al lot of links, about what I state about Steve.
*Everything* I state is (sad but) true.
At first (in April when I started 'Stop Steve ...") the links were in the
mail here at cdma, but the 'wordwrap' issue was a problem.
On the webpage every link is a valid link. You will be surprised or stunned
or both.
Do a Google search on the string " ks*******@bellsouth.net PCDataSheet "
to see some cases where he makes 'mistakes'.

This 'thing' has been going on for years and years!! Enjoy!

Arno R

Nov 13 '05 #46

P: n/a
"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
Larry Linson wrote:
I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>


A good friend of mine who is an author says exactly this: bad publicity
also sells books...

Maybe Michael Jackson should publish his autobiography about now then ;-)
Nov 13 '05 #47

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Keith wrote:
"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
Larry Linson wrote:

I _have_ heard it said that bad publicity is better than none, so maybe
you're right -- a spammer stalking himself. <CHUCKLE>


A good friend of mine who is an author says exactly this: bad publicity
also sells books...


Maybe Michael Jackson should publish his autobiography about now then ;-)


Yes, after his trial, it sounds as if he might need it, especially if he
wants any more of the plastic surgery he so desperately needs....
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me
Nov 13 '05 #48

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Here's the other half of the Neil Ginsberg story ---

I contacted Ginsberg about doing some work for me. He gave me a fixed cost
quote of $500. I thought that that was somewhat high and he said a fixed
cost bid is always high to guarantee that it covers the job. He then said
that he would work at an hourly rate and guaranteed me the project cost
would be lower. I accepted his proposal. Sometime later I checked back with
him to see what progress he had made and was informed that he was only half
done and his hourly fees at that point were at $750. Nothing had changed in
the specs for what needed done. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure
that the final cost was going to be near $1500. That is triple his fixed
cost quote. He had guaranteed me the project cost would be lower than $500.
His guarantee was worthless and he never contacted me in regards to the
amount of time he was purportedly expending on the project. He kept my
initial deposit of $375 and I got a half done project whose finished cost
was suppose to be less than $500.

Steve
"Arno R" <ar***********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:42*********************@dreader2.news.tiscali .nl...
May 7 Neil Ginsberg followed up in the thread "Stop Steve why ???'

He refers to the 'scam-alert' here where I say:
-- There also has been a 'Scam-alert'. If this is only partial true ...

<start quote>
Arno:
I am the one who wrote that message in this newsgroup back in 2001. I can
tell you most assuredly that what is written there is 100% true.

Neil Ginsberg
<end quote>

Arno R

"Mike MacSween" <mi***************************@btinternet.com> schreef in
bericht news:42***********************@news.aaisp.net.uk.. .
Thanks Arno.

I'd forgotten the 'fairy' thing and the rip off that Neil Ginsberg posted
about.

Mike

"Arno R" <ar***********@tiscali.nl> wrote in message
news:42*********************@dreader2.news.tiscali .nl...

"Mike MacSween" <mi***************************@btinternet.com> schreef in
bericht news:42***********************@news.aaisp.net.uk.. .

Can you provide some of these links for my benefit then please. You may
well
have provided them in the past. But I'd like to see some proof of the
awful
things Steve's meant to have done.

I googled PCDatasheet and didn't really find anything too terrible, to be
honest.

Mike MacSween
There have been a few threads on 'Stop Steve ....',
Also I provide a link to a webpage in every post where I am hunting Steve.
http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/stopsteve.html
On this page you can find al lot of links, about what I state about Steve.
*Everything* I state is (sad but) true.
At first (in April when I started 'Stop Steve ...") the links were in the
mail here at cdma, but the 'wordwrap' issue was a problem.
On the webpage every link is a valid link. You will be surprised or

stunned or both.
Do a Google search on the string " ks*******@bellsouth.net PCDataSheet "
to see some cases where he makes 'mistakes'.

This 'thing' has been going on for years and years!! Enjoy!

Arno R

Nov 13 '05 #49

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So, you are not man enough to apologize and retract your statements!!

Burp-burp-beep-beep

"Tim Marshall" <TI****@PurplePandaChasers.Moertherium> wrote in message
news:d8**********@coranto.ucs.mun.ca...
PC Datasheet wrote:
You're a liar!
I think you should calm down. Braying at the moon will not make it go

away.
There are no Google cites to that effect and there are no posters that
demonstrated that I asked questions and then answered them myself on
CDMA.
If they are not there now, it's because you had them nuked - I'm not
sure if you can do this like you used to be able to do on Deja.

Anyway, let's leave it at this shall we? You have your opinion of me
and I have an opinion of your behaviour. What you're experiencing here
is how usenet works when someone abuses it.

You truly don't think some of us got together and decided we'd pick on a
random poster do you? Or perhaps you do....

Anyway, let's got on with it. I look forward to reading your legitimate
answers to posts and am sure that some of these may also be of help to
me as they have in the past, OK?
--
Tim http://www.ucs.mun.ca/~tmarshal/
^o<
/#) "Burp-beep, burp-beep, burp-beep?" - Quaker Jake
/^^ "Whatcha doin?" - Ditto "TIM-MAY!!" - Me

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