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Who Monotors The Newsgroups?

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Does anyone know who monitors this CDMA newsgroup and who monitors the the
Microsoft.Public.Access newsgroups?

Steve
Nov 13 '05 #1
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"PC Datasheet" <no****@nospam.spam> schreef in bericht news:%c*****************@newsread3.news.atl.earthl ink.net...
Does anyone know who monitors this CDMA newsgroup and who monitors the the
Microsoft.Public.Access newsgroups?

Steve


FYI: I am monitoring *you* (not monotoring...)

If someone doesn't understand what the following is about:
Steve has apparently chosen to start his advertising again.
(Look at the ng microsoft.public.access.gettingstarted...)

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To Steve, who started his advertising and job-hunting again ... :
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-- You abuse this group and others for job-hunting and advertising over and over again
-- You are insulting lots of people here when they ask you to stop this
-- You hide your identity while asking questions
-- You try to sell a CD ($125,--) with FREE code you gathered from these groups here
-- You posted as Steve, Ron, Tom, Rachel, Kathy, Kristine, Heather and ???
(the latest 'star' is: 'Access Resource')
-- There even has been a 'Scam-alert' about you

So why would ANYBODY ever trust you and hire you?
************************************************** ******

To all:
Why this answer ? ==>> We are trying to stop the advertising here.
(Until Steve stops the advertising *every* post of Steve get's this reply)

Explanation and more on the above: http://home.tiscali.nl/arracom/stopsteve.html

Arno R
Nov 13 '05 #2

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"PC Datasheet" wrote
Does anyone know who monitors
this CDMA newsgroup and who
monitors the the Microsoft.Public.
Access newsgroups?


Steve, the USENET newsgroup comp.databases.ms-access is unmoderated -- rules
and charter are enforced by the participants complaining to the ISP and news
server of posters who violate them. I am quite sure that you already know
this because it has been stated time and again in the newsgroup. Your
blantant disregard for the charter in solitciting business (advertising)
here has crossed the line.

There is a USENET group that oversees the newsgroups, but they deal with the
ISPs and news servers, not with individuals.

The microsoft.public.access newsgroups are obviously monitored by Microsoft
personnel (see the terms of service), but as far as I know, they do not
publish a contact address. If I could get a message to the Microsoft
monitors, I'd surely request that they block you from the sponsored
newsgroups because of your heavy-handed advertising and business
solicitation.

It is your violation of the rules, charter, and spirit of the newsgroups
that has attracted Arno to do battle with you. At least it is just a
"shadowing operation" and has not yet turned into a flamewar. He has more
right to complain about your violations than you have to make them. Your
activity has, of course, offended many others who have commented publicly,
as well, and you may now consider that I am firmly among that group.

I suggest to others who object to your behavior that they not waste time and
energy responding to you, but complain to your ISP and news server about
your spamming the newsgroups.

I urge you to immediately stop advertising and stop soliciting business in
the newsgroups. You well know what is permissible -- see the FAQ at
http://www.mvps.org/access/netiquette.htm for a refresher -- and you well
know that you are 'way past the line.

Larry Linson
speaking from the perspective of one who cast
an approving vote for the creation of CDMA
in 1993 and has continued to participate ever
since that time
Nov 13 '05 #3

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"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
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Yeah, but he's got _great_ qualifications don't you think Larry?
Nov 13 '05 #4

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"Mike MacSween" wrote
Yeah, but he's got _great_ qualifi-
cations don't you think Larry?


I'm not in a position to evaluate his qualifications, only to observe his
actions.

Larry

Nov 13 '05 #5

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"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in
news:nsNqe.4557$gL4.2665@trnddc07:
I suggest to others who object to your behavior that they not
waste time and energy responding to you, but complain to your ISP
and news server about your spamming the newsgroups.


I would agree that if you object, the place to do so is with the
relevant authorities, not in the newsgroup.

I, for one, just don't see why this situation has become so toxic.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 13 '05 #6

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"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bway.net.invalid> wrote in message
I, for one, just don't see why this situation has become so toxic.
I agree. I've seen Steve UnKnownSurname's posts for some time. My assessment
of his Access skills would be that he has some, but not in depth knowledge,
compared to some of the regulars, and now ex regulars here. Whatever certain
individual's peronal 'on line' traits (which I won't list here!!) it should
be possible to recognize their strengths. A question about ADPs would be
well answered by Lyle, for instance. David I think is very experienced in
small workgroup applications (don't take that as atall perjorative David,
you clearly provide _appropriate_ solutions for your clients). Rebecca, when
she was here, was good on data schemas. Keri, ditto, on ASP and suchlike.
These are just examples out of my head. And many others just have solid in
depth knowledge and experience of Access.

Steve often appears a bit superficial. But to be fair, I just did a search,
found lots of answers he provided, including a useful one to me. He didn't
seem to try to sell me anything. Sure, his sig is a bit like advertising,
and I'm sure he does try to use the newsgroup to sell, if somewhat
tangentally. But it doesn't particularly bother me. After all, it's not
difficult to get to many of the regular posters from their signatures. I
think it's bad form to answer questions and then _in the newsgroup_ offer
paid help. But I wouldn't really have a problem if Steve emailed them off
the newsgroup offering help, paid or otherwise. If he really posing as
another poster then I'd be interested to see the proof, the context, and
then wonder at the reason. Which might be justified.

It would be better for him if his website included some useful code, or if
his qualifications were at least real. If I were a potential customer and
were trying to assess his abilities it's a bit unimpressive.

Mike

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

Nov 13 '05 #7

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I have really tried to get something out of this newsgroup.
Occasionally, someone posts a good question and occasionally someone
offers a good solution. The other 90% of the time it seems like there
is a running battle and I don't know and don't care who the feuding
sides are.

I read this newsgroup (as well as others) every day to see if there is
something that I can learn and apply to my job as an Access/VB/SQL
developer. Bull like this just wastes my time. Have fun with your
club - I'm outa here.

-Rick
Harvest Data Systems

Nov 13 '05 #8

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"Rick" <ri**************@att.net> wrote in
news:11**********************@g44g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com:
I have really tried to get something out of this newsgroup.
Occasionally, someone posts a good question and occasionally
someone offers a good solution. The other 90% of the time it
seems like there is a running battle and I don't know and don't
care who the feuding sides are.

I read this newsgroup (as well as others) every day to see if
there is something that I can learn and apply to my job as an
Access/VB/SQL developer. Bull like this just wastes my time.
Have fun with your club - I'm outa here.


I read this newsgroup on a daily basis, too, and each day I get out
of it one of the following two things, and some days, both:

1. the satisfaction of helping out other people by answering a
question or two.

2. stimulation of my thinking about Access and programming, as well
as solutions to specific problems that I've had.

This is the Usenet group with the highest signal-to-noise ratio of
any newsgroup I've ever read in the more than 10 years since I
started reading Usenet.

So, don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 13 '05 #9

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