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A server for SQL Server

We are considering migrating our Access backend to SQL Server or
something similar. I am hearing rumors that our server will have to
be a really expensive, beefed-up version. Can anyone shed some light
on that?
Thanks,
Hank Reed
Nov 13 '05 #1
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In message <f4**************************@posting.google.com >, Hank Reed
<ha********@aol.com> writes
We are considering migrating our Access backend to SQL Server or
something similar. I am hearing rumors that our server will have to
be a really expensive, beefed-up version. Can anyone shed some light
on that?


Let me guess. The rumours have been traced back to your hardware
supplier.

Why do you think you need to upgrade? What makes people think that you
will need (as opposed to want) an incredibly powerful server?

I was running my test SQL Server database on a Celeron 400 machine with
384Mb of memory. Windows 2000 Server ran like a sick dog on that machine
but single-user database access was fine.

How big a database? How many users? How much data do they need to get
from the database?


--
Bernard Peek
London, UK. DBA, Manager, Trainer & Author. Will work for money.

Nov 13 '05 #2
need some more details hank. are these rumors referring to the
hardware required to run sql server? sql will run on just about any
machine that you can get win 2k installed on. the size and nature of
your database will dictate your hardware requirements.

ha********@aol.com (Hank Reed) wrote in message news:<f4**************************@posting.google. com>...
We are considering migrating our Access backend to SQL Server or
something similar. I am hearing rumors that our server will have to
be a really expensive, beefed-up version. Can anyone shed some light
on that?
Thanks,
Hank Reed

Nov 13 '05 #3
Hank,
I'm running Windows 2000 Server & SQL Server 2000 on a Dell PowerEdge 2300
with three hard drives, a total of about 60GB of disk space, 128MB of RAM
and the thing is idling most of the time. Even my most nested
subqueried/nasty/multi-joined/unioned SQL bad habits barely spike it's
resources. Now, it's my server, I am a hobbyist, and at peak load it's me,
my roommate, and my kid doing stuff at the same time, so we are not exactly
a real world test of what it could do. But my server is far from
new/powerful by today's standards and it is way more capable than I can
use--even at five years old. There is plenty of three-year old hardware out
there in good condition that is more than capable of serving thousands of
transactions an hour to many hundreds of users. Unless you are Enron and
are cooking the books in real time as the transaction stream is being
processed, a used box that can be tested and verified as in good shape with
relatively low hours is a great way to get started. Once you go IPO and get
your mega-bux you can go for the server farm.

"Hank Reed" <ha********@aol.com> wrote in message
news:f4**************************@posting.google.c om...
We are considering migrating our Access backend to SQL Server or
something similar. I am hearing rumors that our server will have to
be a really expensive, beefed-up version. Can anyone shed some light
on that?
Thanks,
Hank Reed

Nov 13 '05 #4
On 28 Jul 2004 08:39:32 -0700, ha********@aol.com (Hank Reed) wrote:

SQL Server can run on any hardware from a $400 Pocket PC (and I'm not
kidding) to a $50,000 and up big server.
The question is, do you need to upgrade? Tell us a bit more about your
situation. How many users, and I mean concurrent users, what are they
doing (read or read/write), and what is the skill level of the person
(perhaps you) who put this db together. Perhaps adding a few indexes
and removing a bunch of DLookups would do the trick.

If you go to SQL Server, don't get trapped by the marketing propaganda
which would make you think it's a simple upgrade using that cool
upgrade wizard already available in Access. The way I see it, there
are two ways to upgrade:
(1) Use the upgrade wizard to move your tables to SQL Server, attach
the tables to the front-end, and keep everything essentially the same.
Time: 2 hours. Performance benefit: minimal, if any. Ancilliary
benefits: better security options, backup, recoverability.
(2) Bite the bullet and do it right. Use a client/server approach.
Probably use Access ADP because it's optimized for that environment.
Time: days or weeks. Performance benefit: fenomenal in some situations
(getting less data), minimal in others (intensive client-side
operations). Ancilliary benefits: same as above.

-Tom.

We are considering migrating our Access backend to SQL Server or
something similar. I am hearing rumors that our server will have to
be a really expensive, beefed-up version. Can anyone shed some light
on that?
Thanks,
Hank Reed


Nov 13 '05 #5
Tom van Stiphout wrote:
SQL Server can run on any hardware from a $400 Pocket PC (and I'm not
kidding)


I have the pocket edition, but no pocket PC to run it on. Has anyone
ever tried it? How big a database can you get on one of these?

--
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Nov 13 '05 #6
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 08:20:38 +0100, Trevor Best <nospam@localhost>
wrote:

I haven't either.
As big as your memory chip will allow. 64 MB on most machines.

-Tom.
Tom van Stiphout wrote:
SQL Server can run on any hardware from a $400 Pocket PC (and I'm not
kidding)


I have the pocket edition, but no pocket PC to run it on. Has anyone
ever tried it? How big a database can you get on one of these?


Nov 13 '05 #7

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