What is OEM?

[Salad]

I was window shopping for AXP developer and just the product Access
2002. I came across one for "Microsoft Access 2002 OEM CD 077-02049"
which is an upgrade.

Why OEM? I simply want AccessXP/2002 from MS. Is there one that is
non-OEM?

Does OEM mean it was made for Dell or Gateway or something? Do I need
to be concerned about OEM cds? I simply want a product that works on my
PC and is legal.

[John Thomas Smith]

On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:22:05 GMT, Salad <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote:

Does OEM mean it was made for Dell or Gateway or something?
Yes - OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer
concerned about OEM cds?

If something happens, you get NO support from Microsoft

Since an OEM product is supposed to be supplied with a new PC,
the only support is from the maker of that brand of PC
John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

[Salad]

John Thomas Smith wrote:

On Thu, 27 May 2004 22:22:05 GMT, Salad <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote:

Does OEM mean it was made for Dell or Gateway or something?

Yes - OEM = Original Equipment Manufacturer

concerned about OEM cds?

If something happens, you get NO support from Microsoft

Thanks. I know I'd never use MS support. I tried to get support from
MS about 8 years ago. I'll stick to newsgroups. The folks at MS were
clueless when I called since they are trained in class and have never
developed applications. They basically knew how to look things up in a
knowledgebase but that's about it.

Since an OEM product is supposed to be supplied with a new PC,
the only support is from the maker of that brand of PC
If it's only a support issue, and I don't need support, I guess that's
the way to go.


John Thomas Smith
http://www.direct2usales.com
http://www.pacifier.com/~jtsmith

[XMVP]

"Salad" <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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Thanks. I know I'd never use MS support. I tried to get support from
MS about 8 years ago. I'll stick to newsgroups. The folks at MS were
clueless when I called since they are trained in class and have never
developed applications. They basically knew how to look things up in a
knowledgebase but that's about it.

"The folks at MS were clueless"? But you don't know what OEM means?

[Salad]

XMVP wrote:

"Salad" <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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Thanks. I know I'd never use MS support. I tried to get support from
MS about 8 years ago. I'll stick to newsgroups. The folks at MS were
clueless when I called since they are trained in class and have never
developed applications. They basically knew how to look things up in a
knowledgebase but that's about it.

"The folks at MS were clueless"? But you don't know what OEM means?

Sure, I've heard the term OEM before. But if I see "OEM cd", what does
that mean in regards to working on my PC and legality? If it means
nothing, then who cares if it is OEM or not?

[Larry Linson]

Generally, the license for OEM software (which I assume is what's on that
CD) requires that it be sold with some particular hardware. It _usually_ is
just a matter of license, but sometimes "OEM" versions of software do have
other software requirements. Much software advertised as "OEM" software
(particularly in spam) is, in fact, pirated software, not "OEM" packaging.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

"Salad" <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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XMVP wrote:

"Salad" <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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Thanks. I know I'd never use MS support. I tried to get support from
MS about 8 years ago. I'll stick to newsgroups. The folks at MS were
clueless when I called since they are trained in class and have never
developed applications. They basically knew how to look things up in a
knowledgebase but that's about it.

"The folks at MS were clueless"? But you don't know what OEM means?

Sure, I've heard the term OEM before. But if I see "OEM cd", what does
that mean in regards to working on my PC and legality? If it means
nothing, then who cares if it is OEM or not?

[Salad]

Larry Linson wrote:

Generally, the license for OEM software (which I assume is what's on that
CD) requires that it be sold with some particular hardware. It _usually_ is
just a matter of license, but sometimes "OEM" versions of software do have
other software requirements. Much software advertised as "OEM" software
(particularly in spam) is, in fact, pirated software, not "OEM" packaging.

Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP

Thanks Larry.

Here is a link to 1 of them
http://gizmos2go.com/xcart/customer/...productid=2394
or this one where it says retail...but the retail prices I've seen run
about 225-250.
http://www.zones.com/cgi-bin/zones/s...88118&zone=zbs

[Larry Linson]

I don't know anything about either of those sites... have you looked to see
what it's being sold for on eBay? It will give you some information to use
for comparison. The feedback system of eBay also gives you a pretty good
idea about the sellers there. And eBay is very strict that OEM software must
be sold with hardware (though it might be a long-obsolete CPU that you can't
make use of, there'll be "qualifying hardware" <GRIN>).

2003 is the current version, so these may have been discounted because 2002
is regarded as "obsolescent". IMNSHO, there's little change to recommend
2003 over 2002 unless it is some of the cross-product Office improvements
for enterprise, corporate collaboration, etc.

Larry Linson

"Salad" <oi*@vinegar.com> wrote in message
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Larry Linson wrote:

Generally, the license for OEM software (which I assume is what's on that CD) requires that it be sold with some particular hardware. It _usually_ is just a matter of license, but sometimes "OEM" versions of software do have other software requirements. Much software advertised as "OEM" software
(particularly in spam) is, in fact, pirated software, not "OEM" packaging.
Larry Linson
Microsoft Access MVP
Thanks Larry.

Here is a link to 1 of them
http://gizmos2go.com/xcart/customer/...productid=2394
or this one where it says retail...but the retail prices I've seen run
about 225-250.

http://www.zones.com/cgi-bin/zones/s...88118&zone=zbs