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Dvd
Please help!
I can't solve this problem... I refuse to accept acces is not able to do
this...
I am building a bibliographic database for scientific research.
I need to to build a report with an output like this:
Author, title, place, publisher, date, etc.
EX:
Eco, The name of the Rose, London, Penguin, 2001.
Now the real issue. I need to get different text styles for the different
fields. Ex: The title should be underlined, the author's name italics....
etc.
Is there a way (any possible way!) to do this?
Thanks in advance
Davide
Nov 12 '05 #1
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What is stopping you? Change the properties of text boxes on the report.
You can set fonts, italics and everything else independently for each
text box.
That said, the project resembles the functionality of an inexpensive
EndNote software.

Cheers,
Pavel

Dvd wrote:

Please help!
I can't solve this problem... I refuse to accept acces is not able to do
this...
I am building a bibliographic database for scientific research.
I need to to build a report with an output like this:
Author, title, place, publisher, date, etc.
EX:
Eco, The name of the Rose, London, Penguin, 2001.
Now the real issue. I need to get different text styles for the different
fields. Ex: The title should be underlined, the author's name italics....
etc.
Is there a way (any possible way!) to do this?
Thanks in advance
Davide

Nov 12 '05 #2

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Pavel Romashkin <pa*************@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:40***************@hotmail.com:
Dvd wrote:

Please help!
I can't solve this problem... I refuse to accept acces is not
able to do this...
I am building a bibliographic database for scientific research.
I need to to build a report with an output like this:
Author, title, place, publisher, date, etc.
EX:
Eco, The name of the Rose, London, Penguin, 2001.
Now the real issue. I need to get different text styles for the
different fields. Ex: The title should be underlined, the
author's name italics.... etc.
Is there a way (any possible way!) to do this?


What is stopping you? Change the properties of text boxes on the
report. You can set fonts, italics and everything else
independently for each text box.
That said, the project resembles the functionality of an
inexpensive EndNote software.


A bibliographic report in Access is really not possible, because
different bibliographic types need different fields italicized, and
the order of information is different for different bibliographic
types (e.g., a book's bibliographic entry is different from a
magazine article's entry).

It's actually a very difficult problem space. Been there, done that.

The only way I'd contemplate doing it is in HTML, walking through a
recordset and formatting the data using conditionals on each record.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #3

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On Wed, 11 Feb 2004 00:20:12 GMT, "David W. Fenton"
<dX********@bway.net.invalid> wrote:
Pavel Romashkin <pa*************@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:40***************@hotmail.com:
Dvd wrote:

Please help!
I can't solve this problem... I refuse to accept acces is not
able to do this...
I am building a bibliographic database for scientific research.
I need to to build a report with an output like this:
Author, title, place, publisher, date, etc.
EX:
Eco, The name of the Rose, London, Penguin, 2001.
Now the real issue. I need to get different text styles for the
different fields. Ex: The title should be underlined, the
author's name italics.... etc.
Is there a way (any possible way!) to do this?


What is stopping you? Change the properties of text boxes on the
report. You can set fonts, italics and everything else
independently for each text box.
That said, the project resembles the functionality of an
inexpensive EndNote software.


A bibliographic report in Access is really not possible, because
different bibliographic types need different fields italicized, and
the order of information is different for different bibliographic
types (e.g., a book's bibliographic entry is different from a
magazine article's entry).

It's actually a very difficult problem space. Been there, done that.

The only way I'd contemplate doing it is in HTML, walking through a
recordset and formatting the data using conditionals on each record.


Actually, the tools Stephen Lebans has on his Web site might make it possible,
at least in a report. I agree that Access is probably not the ideal tool for
this. I've done similar things with MS Word automation, though.

Of course, the truly hard part of a project like this is knowing the right
format for each possible case. My wife just finished a paper that had to have
citations and references in APA style. For some of the reference types that
don't even sound that wierd, we put in several hours of research just to
figure out the right formats for the citation and reference. I was thinking a
reference and citation wizard application would be a big seller!
Nov 12 '05 #4

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In message <Xn**********************************@24.168.128.9 0>, David
W. Fenton <dX********@bway.net.invalid> writes
What is stopping you? Change the properties of text boxes on the
report. You can set fonts, italics and everything else
independently for each text box.
That said, the project resembles the functionality of an
inexpensive EndNote software.


A bibliographic report in Access is really not possible, because
different bibliographic types need different fields italicized, and
the order of information is different for different bibliographic
types (e.g., a book's bibliographic entry is different from a
magazine article's entry).

It's actually a very difficult problem space. Been there, done that.

The only way I'd contemplate doing it is in HTML, walking through a
recordset and formatting the data using conditionals on each record.


How about using the Access database for a mail-merge in Word? That could
format each field differently.


--
Bernard Peek
London, UK. DBA, Manager, Trainer & Author. Will work for money.

Nov 12 '05 #5

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Steve Jorgensen <no****@nospam.nospam> wrote in
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Of course, the truly hard part of a project like this is knowing
the right format for each possible case. My wife just finished a
paper that had to have citations and references in APA style. For
some of the reference types that don't even sound that wierd, we
put in several hours of research just to figure out the right
formats for the citation and reference. I was thinking a
reference and citation wizard application would be a big seller!


You also can't just switch between APA and Chicago or MLA styles.
APA is so different that it's not just the bibliographic references
that are different, but the way you cite them, which changes the way
the text reads.

I once had a project (a catalog for an art exhibition) where the
graphic designer changed, on her own initiative, the bibliography
layout to be pseudo-APA. I screamed at everyone that the text was
written in modified MLA and you can't just do that, but I was
overruled because everyone thought the APA bibliography looked cool.

It was one of my first experiences with the mentality represented in
that "Excel as database" cartoon link I posted last week, where
breathtakingly ignorant people expound on subjects about which they
know absolutely nothing to people who are heavily trained in that
subject.

You can't always win by being right.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #6

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Bernard Peek <ba*@shrdlu.com> wrote in
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In message <Xn**********************************@24.168.128.9 0>,
David W. Fenton <dX********@bway.net.invalid> writes
What is stopping you? Change the properties of text boxes on the
report. You can set fonts, italics and everything else
independently for each text box.
That said, the project resembles the functionality of an
inexpensive EndNote software.


A bibliographic report in Access is really not possible, because
different bibliographic types need different fields italicized,
and the order of information is different for different
bibliographic types (e.g., a book's bibliographic entry is
different from a magazine article's entry).

It's actually a very difficult problem space. Been there, done
that.

The only way I'd contemplate doing it is in HTML, walking through
a recordset and formatting the data using conditionals on each
record.


How about using the Access database for a mail-merge in Word? That
could format each field differently.


I've never found that level of automation of Word to be as easy as,
say outputting HTML line-by-line within Access.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #7

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Ask Arvin Meyer how he does it.

In article <Xn**********************************@24.168.128.9 0>,
dX********@bway.net.invalid says...

Pavel Romashkin <pa*************@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:40***************@hotmail.com:
Dvd wrote:

Please help!
I can't solve this problem... I refuse to accept acces is not
able to do this...
I am building a bibliographic database for scientific research.
I need to to build a report with an output like this:
Author, title, place, publisher, date, etc.
EX:
Eco, The name of the Rose, London, Penguin, 2001.
Now the real issue. I need to get different text styles for the
different fields. Ex: The title should be underlined, the
author's name italics.... etc.
Is there a way (any possible way!) to do this?


What is stopping you? Change the properties of text boxes on the
report. You can set fonts, italics and everything else
independently for each text box.
That said, the project resembles the functionality of an
inexpensive EndNote software.


A bibliographic report in Access is really not possible, because
different bibliographic types need different fields italicized, and
the order of information is different for different bibliographic
types (e.g., a book's bibliographic entry is different from a
magazine article's entry).

It's actually a very difficult problem space. Been there, done that.

The only way I'd contemplate doing it is in HTML, walking through a
recordset and formatting the data using conditionals on each record.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc


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starwars <no****@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote:
Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above.
It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software.
This is another anonymous posting with the groups archive set to no.
Mr. Fenton, we have obtained copies of your essays & papers at NYU. May we have
permission to re-publish them here, wherever relevant, of course? It is
certain that CDMA'zens will find these papers not only interesting, but
also quite revealing and informative of your character.

No response or objection by a date and time sooner than 18:00 EST,
this Thursday, will be deemed a full and unlimited authorization to re-
publish any and all of your papers.
I certainly object to anything you do or say in this newsgroup. Including whatever
garbage you have dreamed up in your imagination.
--As always, fair and balanced.


Not a chance.

Go away. Get lost.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Nov 12 '05 #9

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starwars <no****@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote in
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Mr. Fenton, we have obtained copies of your essays & papers at
NYU. May we have permission to re-publish them here, wherever
relevant, of course?


No.

You do not have my permission to do anything with them other than
what is legal within the bounds of copyright law.

I cannot stop you from linking to them, but they are my materials,
and any republication of any substantial part is copyright
infringement.

Of course, no one wants any of it posted in this newsgroup, as it's
all off-topic (though some of the content on my ~dfassoc is relevant
to Access).

No one is interested in your reposts.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #10

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starwars <no****@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote:
Well, then, resort will be made to ample fair use of your writings.


What a crock of bovine byproduct.

Tony
--
Tony Toews, Microsoft Access MVP
Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
read the entire thread of messages.
Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at
http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm
Nov 12 '05 #11

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starwars <no****@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote in
news:17******************************@tatooine.hom elinux.net:
Well, then, resort will be made to ample fair use of your
writings.


Nothing can stop that.

But, nobody here is interested in seeing it, as there's nothing
there that is relevant to this newsgroup.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #12

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