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Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.
Nov 12 '05 #1
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Try a little respect.

BigDaDDY wrote:
Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.

Nov 12 '05 #2

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"BigDaDDY" <ih*******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.


Because the Access newsgroups are just so much more fun.
P.S. Can you turn an Oracle db into an exe?
Nov 12 '05 #3

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DFS
"BigDaDDY" <ih*******@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.


You're saying we should use products from a company whose employees can't
even install them? I don't think so. Twice now I've watched high-paid
Oracle people fail to be able to install or run Oracle Designer and Oracle
Workflow.

(note: Oracle is an awesome db I recommend frequently, but their staff
consultants suck).

Nov 12 '05 #4

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<<You're saying we should use products from a company whose employees can't
even install them? I don't think so. Twice now I've watched high-paid
Oracle people fail to be able to install or run Oracle Designer and Oracle
Workflow.>>

I've had this kind of thing happen 4 times in the last 10 years:

--Big Company X brings in a bunch of Oracle consultants to build Big Oracle
Database

--Big Company X contracts me to build "temporary working model" in MS Access
b/c Big Oracle Database is taking so long to produce, but they still need some
working automation, and the Consultants seem to be having a hard time
understanding the biz process.

--Big Company X throws out Oracle consultants after spending anywhere from
$500,000 to $2MIL, with almost ZERO user-functionality completed.

--Big Company X--after months of my prodding--pays me to upsize "temporay
working model" to SQL Server. This takes one day. Total cost of application is
between $25,000 and $150,000, depending on X.

--Big Comapny X never uses Oracle again.

--Big Company X is either using MS Access front end to SQL Server or ASP.NET to
SQL Server these days.
Nov 12 '05 #5

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DFS
A friend of mine's company just wasted $40,000 on an Oracle data warehouse
license and Oracle consultants who failed to implement a small OLAP system.

Their consulting isn't that great, but their db rocks. What they need,
though, are better admin tools, like SQL Server's Enterprise Manager and
Query Analyzer.
"DCM Fan" <dc****@aol.comSPNOAM> wrote in message
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<<You're saying we should use products from a company whose employees can't even install them? I don't think so. Twice now I've watched high-paid
Oracle people fail to be able to install or run Oracle Designer and Oracle
Workflow.>>

I've had this kind of thing happen 4 times in the last 10 years:

--Big Company X brings in a bunch of Oracle consultants to build Big Oracle Database

--Big Company X contracts me to build "temporary working model" in MS Access b/c Big Oracle Database is taking so long to produce, but they still need some working automation, and the Consultants seem to be having a hard time
understanding the biz process.

--Big Company X throws out Oracle consultants after spending anywhere from
$500,000 to $2MIL, with almost ZERO user-functionality completed.

--Big Company X--after months of my prodding--pays me to upsize "temporay
working model" to SQL Server. This takes one day. Total cost of application is between $25,000 and $150,000, depending on X.

--Big Comapny X never uses Oracle again.

--Big Company X is either using MS Access front end to SQL Server or ASP.NET to SQL Server these days.

Nov 12 '05 #6

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Simple....

It's too damn expensive at 5 grand a pop (and that's NOT counting the
stupid yearly maintenance contract) PLUS you also have to BUY (also very
expensive) all the add ons you need to design, build, display, and print
the data.

ALL comes free with Access......Add SQL Serever as the backend, and
it'll run with Oracle any day......assuming you know what you are
doing......
Can't get any more simple than that.....bozo.
RH

BigDaDDY wrote:
Why do you bozos continue to program in Access? Do you enjoy being at the
mercy of Microsoft? Try using a real database like Oracle.


Nov 12 '05 #7

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"Tom Travolta" <to*@travolta.com> wrote in
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P.S. Can you turn an Oracle db into an exe?


Can you turn an Microsoft Access Database into an exe?

Nov 12 '05 #8

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