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Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?

Mike Storr
www.veraccess.com

Nov 12 '05 #1
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, "Mike Storr"
<st******@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?

Mike Storr
www.veraccess.com

Search the internet for "Newsreaders" and you'll get lots of hits.
The term "good' will vary according to what your needs are.

This is being written using 'Free Agent' (a free stripped down version
of Agent), and I've been trying and using at various times XNews,
XanaNews, 40tudeDialog, Noworyta, and some others I've already
forgotten. Each one has something to recommend it, and something I
would like to have different.
Right now, Agent ($29 US) appears to have most of what I need, so I'll
probably buy the next full version of Agent when it comes out.

Download and try them.

If you wish, you can read the newsreader newsgroups to see what users
think of them and some of the problems that might arise:

alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
and
news.software.readers
Nov 12 '05 #2

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DFS
You can try Mozilla, and its Thunderbird newsreader. Both are free
downloads from www.mozilla.org (I believe). They're pretty good, but slower
to load and run than IE and Outlook.

"Mike Storr" <st******@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?
Mike Storr
www.veraccess.com

Nov 12 '05 #3

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, "Mike Storr"
<st******@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?
Mike Storr
www.veraccess.com

Search the internet for "Newsreaders" and you'll get lots of hits.
The term "good' will vary according to what your needs are.

This is being written using 'Free Agent' (a free stripped down version
of Agent), and I've been trying and using at various times XNews,
XanaNews, 40tudeDialog, Noworyta, and some others I've already
forgotten. Each one has something to recommend it, and something I
would like to have different.
Right now, Agent ($29 US) appears to have most of what I need, so I'll
probably buy the next full version of Agent when it comes out.

Download and try them.

If you wish, you can read the newsreader newsgroups to see what users
think of them and some of the problems that might arise:

alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent
and
news.software.readers


I like Agent but the current version supports only a single server. That is
supposed to be corrected in Version 2 of the product (currently in beta).
Forte has been promising for a long time now but there is still no release
date posted.
Nov 12 '05 #4

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 13:11:09 -0500 in comp.databases.ms-access, "DFS"
<no****@nospam.com> wrote:
You can try Mozilla, and its Thunderbird newsreader. Both are free
downloads from www.mozilla.org (I believe). They're pretty good, but slower
to load and run than IE and Outlook.


I use Mozilla Thunderbird for news at work, as well as for mail at
home, I'm considering switching over to it for news at home as well.

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Nov 12 '05 #5

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500 in comp.databases.ms-access, "Mike
Storr" <st******@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?


Mozilla Thunderbird
Forté Agent (and FreeAgent)
Anawave Gravity

All good in my book, all free with the exception of Agent (but then
FreeAgent is free).

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Nov 12 '05 #6

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"Mike Storr" <st******@sympatico.ca> wrote in news:dsRQb.85$qU3.28160
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Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?


http://xnews.newsguy.com/

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Nov 12 '05 #7

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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, Mike Storr wrote:
Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?

40tude Dialog. Has everything one could possibly want!

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KH
Nov 12 '05 #8

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"Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote:
I like Agent but the current version supports only a single server. That is
supposed to be corrected in Version 2 of the product (currently in beta).
Forte has been promising for a long time now but there is still no release
date posted.


Yes, but .... <smile>

I create another directory and another shortcut pointing to that directory. Then
copy the license key in and it's done. A minute's work but livable.

Tony

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Nov 12 '05 #9

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Thanks, looks like I have some playing around to do.
"Mike Storr" <st******@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?
Mike Storr
www.veraccess.com

Nov 12 '05 #10

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st******@sympatico.ca says...
Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?

Mike Storr
www.veraccess.com

The best news reader by FAR is Gravity. No fluff or glitz and best of
all it does NOT use that HORRID Windows Explorer interface... Not only
all of that but it is free!
Nov 12 '05 #11

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"Kjell Harnesk" <no**********@harnesk.d2g.nu> wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, Mike Storr wrote:
Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or
Google? 40tude Dialog. Has everything one could possibly want!

--
KH


I'm intrigued by 40tude. Would you happen to know if there is a newsgroup
or any sort of forum where I can get help with it?

Thanks,
Randy
Nov 12 '05 #12

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"starwars" <no****@tatooine.homelinux.net> wrote in message
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Randy Harris scriveva:
"Kjell Harnesk" <no**********@harnesk.d2g.nu> wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, Mike Storr wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or

Google?
40tude Dialog. Has everything one could possibly want!

--
KH


I'm intrigued by 40tude. Would you happen to know if there is a newsgroup or any sort of forum where I can get help with it?

Thanks,
Randy


Try trn.


What's trn?
Nov 12 '05 #13

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In article <9y**********************@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
ra***@SpamFree.com says...
"Kjell Harnesk" <no**********@harnesk.d2g.nu> wrote in message
news:1g*****************************@40tude.net...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, Mike Storr wrote:
Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or Google?


By asking that you are implying that Outlook and Google are good
newsreaders when in fact they both suck. Try Gravity. Clean, simple,
and free.
40tude Dialog. Has everything one could possibly want!

--
KH


I'm intrigued by 40tude. Would you happen to know if there is a newsgroup
or any sort of forum where I can get help with it?

Thanks,
Randy

Nov 12 '05 #14

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No, just that I have no experience with any others, and wanted to eliminate
these two the list of possible replies, thinking that they may be popular.

Although I haven't had time yet to really try some others out, I have to say
that being able to search Google for threads - without having to download
1000's of them is quite handy.
"Ima Lostsoul" <me@myprovider.com> wrote in message
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In article <9y**********************@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
ra***@SpamFree.com says...
"Kjell Harnesk" <no**********@harnesk.d2g.nu> wrote in message
news:1g*****************************@40tude.net...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, Mike Storr wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or

Google?


By asking that you are implying that Outlook and Google are good
newsreaders when in fact they both suck. Try Gravity. Clean, simple,
and free.
40tude Dialog. Has everything one could possibly want!

--
KH


I'm intrigued by 40tude. Would you happen to know if there is a newsgroup or any sort of forum where I can get help with it?

Thanks,
Randy



Nov 12 '05 #15

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"Ima Lostsoul" <me@myprovider.com> wrote in message
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In article <9y**********************@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
ra***@SpamFree.com says...
"Kjell Harnesk" <no**********@harnesk.d2g.nu> wrote in message
news:1g*****************************@40tude.net...
On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, Mike Storr wrote:

> Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or

Google?


By asking that you are implying that Outlook and Google are good
newsreaders when in fact they both suck. Try Gravity. Clean, simple,
and free.


There are better newsreaders than Outlook Express, there are better mail
clients than Outlook Express. However, I've searched for, but can't find
anything that does both jobs as well as Outlook Express.
Nov 12 '05 #16

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Whos terms? If you mean Google, I don't see how as they openly provide a
method of searching for whatever thread topics you wish to see.
"John Galt" <An****************@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message
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Mike Storr wrote:
No, just that I have no experience with any others, and wanted to eliminate these two the list of possible replies, thinking that they may be popular.
Although I haven't had time yet to really try some others out, I have to say that being able to search Google for threads - without having to download 1000's of them is quite handy.

Probably violating the TOS.


Nov 12 '05 #17

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In article <Sc**********************@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
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"Ima Lostsoul" <me@myprovider.com> wrote in message
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In article <9y**********************@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
ra***@SpamFree.com says...
"Kjell Harnesk" <no**********@harnesk.d2g.nu> wrote in message
news:1g*****************************@40tude.net...
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, Mike Storr wrote:
>
> > Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or
Google?


By asking that you are implying that Outlook and Google are good
newsreaders when in fact they both suck. Try Gravity. Clean, simple,
and free.


There are better newsreaders than Outlook Express, there are better mail
clients than Outlook Express. However, I've searched for, but can't find
anything that does both jobs as well as Outlook Express.


Outlook express is total crap. It is more of a virus than it is
software. So you are saying that you settle for crap software just
because they bundled two pieces of shit that together are less lumpy
than anyone else's combo into a single package...
Nov 12 '05 #18

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> Outlook express is total crap. It is more of a virus than it is
software. So you are saying that you settle for crap software just
because they bundled two pieces of shit that together are less lumpy
than anyone else's combo into a single package...

The one nice feature in OE is the filter 'replies to my posts'. Writers
of real news reader software should include such a filter because that's
quite how I use my news reader.

Sometimes MS can show handy features. Sort of prototyping.

Ima Lostsoul wrote:
Try Gravity. Clean, simple, and free.


Hey, nice suggestion. Never tried that.

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"Ima Lostsoul" <me@myprovider.com> wrote in message
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In article <Sc**********************@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>,
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ra***@SpamFree.com says...
> "Kjell Harnesk" <no**********@harnesk.d2g.nu> wrote in message
> news:1g*****************************@40tude.net...
> > On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 10:41:56 -0500, Mike Storr wrote:
> >
> > > Can anyone suggest a good news reader program other than Outlook or > Google?


There are better newsreaders than Outlook Express, there are better mail
clients than Outlook Express. However, I've searched for, but can't find anything that does both jobs as well as Outlook Express.


Outlook express is total crap. It is more of a virus than it is
software. So you are saying that you settle for crap software just
because they bundled two pieces of shit that together are less lumpy
than anyone else's combo into a single package...


I disagree with your assessment of Outlook Express as "total crap". As I
stated earlier, I've evaluated a plethora of newsreaders and email clients
but can't find a single product that can do both jobs as well as OE.

My opinions:
------------
The best newsreaders: Agent and 40tude
The best email client: Eudora

Features in OE that I am unwilling to abandon in other products:
Configurable toolbar
Powerful window management (single button click to show/hide folder and
message windows, not zoom to full window the way that most do)
Nested folders

Outlook: Fabulous mail client, so painfully slow that it is unusable
Agent: Excellent newsreader except that it only supports one server at a
time, feeble mail client
40tude: Powerful newsreader, terrible UI (cluttered, difficult to configure,
poor help), weak mail client
Thunderbird: Attractive, but slow and hardly configurable at all (it's a
work in progress)
Gravity: Adequate newsreader, it's a dead unsupported product
XNews: A sloppy mess

I'm still anxious to see Agent 2.0, but refuse to buy the current version in
hopes that the new one will be better than OE.

Randy
Nov 12 '05 #20

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