They may start a chain of popup Browser windows that will take over your
machine. And, too, appropriate weight to give what's said in anonymized
posts is probably "none at all".
It appears our Resident Troll has embarked on another campaign to try to
destroy the usefulness of this newsgroup. He didn't succeed when he tried
before, and he won't succeed this time -- but he will try as hard as he can
to make himself a pain in the tender places.
Larry Linson
28  1519 
Larry Linson wrote: They may start a chain of popup Browser windows that will take over
your machine. And, too, appropriate weight to give what's said in
anonymized posts is probably "none at all".
It appears our Resident Troll has embarked on another campaign to try
to destroy the usefulness of this newsgroup. He didn't succeed when
he tried before, and he won't succeed this time -- but he will try as
hard as he can to make himself a pain in the tender places.
Larry Linson
Larry, do you have a quick link to some info on how to block posts from
anonymizers? David Fenton mentioned he was doing that but I wouldn't have a
clue. Would this block posts for all the newsgroups one subscribes to or
can it be configured? I'm using OE and I am painfully aware of how limited
it is when dealing with spam, but it remains my preferred email and news
client.
"Deano" <de*********@hotmail.com> wrote: Larry, do you have a quick link to some info on how to block posts from
anonymizers? David Fenton mentioned he was doing that
David posted the following: "I only see these addresses once, they get killfiled,
and, unless Don directly follows up one of my posts, I never see it again. "
So he just puts every email address which Don is using in his killfile. For example
"an**@anon.itys.net". How you do that in OE I have no idea.
Tony
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"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:d6********************************@4ax.com... "Deano" <de*********@hotmail.com> wrote:
Larry, do you have a quick link to some info on how to block posts from
anonymizers? David Fenton mentioned he was doing that
David posted the following: "I only see these addresses once, they get
killfiled, and, unless Don directly follows up one of my posts, I never see it again.
"
So he just puts every email address which Don is using in his killfile.
For example "an**@anon.itys.net". How you do that in OE I have no idea.
Tools : Message Rules : News & follow the prompts.
TC
Tony,
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 00:32:50 GMT, Tony Toews <tt****@telusplanet.net>
wrote in comp.databases.ms-access:
David posted the following: "I only see these addresses once, they get killfiled,
and, unless Don directly follows up one of my posts, I never see it again. "
So he just puts every email address which Don is using in his killfile. For example
"an**@anon.itys.net".
Not that hard at all. You don't need to do it by email addresses,
otherwise it'd be a major pain (because some anonymizers generate
random sender ids). Just have a look at all the header fields, and
find something that is usable there. You'll often find something that
is clearly helpful to use for the message rules (like the anonymizer's
host name), and voila, the posts are gone. Just make sure that
whatever you're picking up is not going to eliminate more messages
than you intend. Often it makes sense to test for two items instead
of just one.
I don't know about OE, but most packages let you specify which header
fields you want to look in, and what types and combinations of things
you wish to use as markers.
Peter Miller
__________________________________________________ __________
PK Solutions -- Data Recovery for Microsoft Access/Jet/SQL
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Peter Miller <pm*****@pksolutions.com> wrote: Not that hard at all. You don't need to do it by email addresses,
otherwise it'd be a major pain (because some anonymizers generate
random sender ids). Just have a look at all the header fields, and
find something that is usable there. You'll often find something that
is clearly helpful to use for the message rules (like the anonymizer's
host name), and voila, the posts are gone. Just make sure that
whatever you're picking up is not going to eliminate more messages
than you intend. Often it makes sense to test for two items instead
of just one.
I don't know about OE, but most packages let you specify which header
fields you want to look in, and what types and combinations of things
you wish to use as markers.
Agent allows you some freedom with email headers but not with newsgroup headers.
AFAIK it only allows you to check the subject or author.
Tony
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On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:55:55 GMT, Tony Toews <tt****@telusplanet.net>
wrote:
Not so. For example I have this Usenet filter in Agent:
from: lemuria.org
It keeps tabs on one of Don's remailers.
-Tom. Peter Miller <pm*****@pksolutions.com> wrote:
Not that hard at all. You don't need to do it by email addresses,
otherwise it'd be a major pain (because some anonymizers generate
random sender ids). Just have a look at all the header fields, and
find something that is usable there. You'll often find something that
is clearly helpful to use for the message rules (like the anonymizer's
host name), and voila, the posts are gone. Just make sure that
whatever you're picking up is not going to eliminate more messages
than you intend. Often it makes sense to test for two items instead
of just one.
I don't know about OE, but most packages let you specify which header
fields you want to look in, and what types and combinations of things
you wish to use as markers.
Agent allows you some freedom with email headers but not with newsgroup headers.
AFAIK it only allows you to check the subject or author.
Tony
Tom van Stiphout <to*****@no.spam.cox.net> wrote: Not so. For example I have this Usenet filter in Agent:
from: lemuria.org
Oh? Well, then my excuse is that Agent's help isn't very good. <smile>
Tony
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Tony,
On Mon, 15 Dec 2003 01:55:55 GMT, Tony Toews <tt****@telusplanet.net>
wrote in comp.databases.ms-access: Agent allows you some freedom with email headers but not with newsgroup headers.
AFAIK it only allows you to check the subject or author.
Tom's right, but more to the point, Agent allows a lot more
customization than the user interface implies. Make sure you have a
recent version of Agent, then look at the syntax for rule definitions.
You can do a hell of a lot with it.
Peter Miller
__________________________________________________ __________
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"Deano" wrote Larry, do you have a quick link to
some info on how to block posts from
anonymizers?
You can't prevent such posts from getting into the newsgroup, to keep new
users from being assailed or misled by them, but you can use OE's Tools |
MessageRules to set rules that keep _you_ from having to see them. Others
have discussed this, already, in detail. Once you set a rule for News,
unless the newsgroup is part of the rule, it will block posts from that
source to all newsgroups.
An alternative is that if you complain to the anonymizing services, almost
all, if not all, of them will give you a method so that they will block your
e-mail as a destination. That will prevent your personally getting nasty
e-mails from anyone through that service. Your rules can block both mail and
news, by the way.
But, in the past, several anonymizers have themselves blocked this newsgroup
as a destination. That may have contributed to the winding down of the last
assault our Resident Troll made a couple of years or so ago. Each of the
anonymized posts that I have looked at have, in their header (visible by
right-clicking on the message header in OE and choosing properties) an
address (sometimes two, if both an anonymizer and a mail-to-news service
were involved) to which you can complain. Be sure to copy the headers, then
paste them in before the quoted message you forward, and include a polite
request that the anonymizers block comp.databases.ms-access as a destination
because no repressive government is going to retaliate for someone asking or
answering questions about database software. Then thank them. In time,
enough requests may convince them to do so.
Larry Linson
With OE you'll need to filter email and usenet through a program
that actually sits between OE and the server.
I use junkblaster, which you can check out at http://www.nero-online.org/lastmeasure
In article <bX*****************@wards.force9.net>
"Deano" <de*********@hotmail.com> wrote:
Larry Linson wrote: They may start a chain of popup Browser windows that will take over
your machine. And, too, appropriate weight to give what's said in
anonymized posts is probably "none at all".
It appears our Resident Troll has embarked on another campaign to try
to destroy the usefulness of this newsgroup. He didn't succeed when
he tried before, and he won't succeed this time -- but he will try as
hard as he can to make himself a pain in the tender places.
Larry Linson
Larry, do you have a quick link to some info on how to block posts from
anonymizers? David Fenton mentioned he was doing that but I wouldn't have a
clue. Would this block posts for all the newsgroups one subscribes to or
can it be configured? I'm using OE and I am painfully aware of how limited
it is when dealing with spam, but it remains my preferred email and news
client.
-=-
This message was posted via two or more anonymous remailing services. An****************@See.Comment.Header (U N Me) wrote: With OE you'll need to filter email and usenet through a program
that actually sits between OE and the server.
I use junkblaster, which you can check out at
Do NOT click on the above URL.
Tony
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Peter Miller <pm*****@pksolutions.com> wrote: Agent allows you some freedom with email headers but not with newsgroup headers.
AFAIK it only allows you to check the subject or author.
Tom's right, but more to the point, Agent allows a lot more
customization than the user interface implies. Make sure you have a
recent version of Agent, then look at the syntax for rule definitions.
You can do a hell of a lot with it.
Agent 1.93, which I have installed, is as recent as they get. 2.0 is currently in
beta.
Thanks, Tony
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Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm An****************@See.Comment.Header (Drew Spelton) wrote: Larry, you can still use OE and enhance the filtering
through a middleman filter program that sits between OE
and the server. Check out it this site, which discusses
several methods of blocking the fucking trolls.
Do NOT click on the above URL.
Tony
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"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:rg********************************@4ax.com... An****************@See.Comment.Header (Drew Spelton) wrote:
Larry, you can still use OE and enhance the filtering
through a middleman filter program that sits between OE
and the server. Check out it this site, which discusses
several methods of blocking the fucking trolls.
Do NOT click on the above URL.
What are you talking about? There is no "above URL."
"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:8b********************************@4ax.com... An****************@See.Comment.Header (U N Me) wrote:
With OE you'll need to filter email and usenet through a program
that actually sits between OE and the server.
I use junkblaster, which you can check out at
Do NOT click on the above URL.
What are you talking about? There is no "above URL."
"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:dj********************************@4ax.com... Peter Miller <pm*****@pksolutions.com> wrote:
Agent allows you some freedom with email headers but not with newsgroup
headers.AFAIK it only allows you to check the subject or author.
Tom's right, but more to the point, Agent allows a lot more
customization than the user interface implies. Make sure you have a
recent version of Agent, then look at the syntax for rule definitions.
You can do a hell of a lot with it.
Agent 1.93, which I have installed, is as recent as they get. 2.0 is
currently in beta.
Thanks, Tony
--
Do NOT click on the above URL.
Tony Toews wrote: An****************@See.Comment.Header (Drew Spelton) wrote:
Larry, you can still use OE and enhance the filtering
through a middleman filter program that sits between OE
and the server. Check out it this site, which discusses
several methods of blocking the fucking trolls.
Do NOT click on the above URL.
Tony
Yes, I've cottoned on to this guy's patterns - what a saddo.
He meant the URL from the post ABOVE his ... but - and trust me on this -
don't click on it.
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CS Computer Software
Visual Basic - Access - Sql Server - ASP
"Beth L." <Be*********@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:45********************@vnet-inc.com...
"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:8b********************************@4ax.com... An****************@See.Comment.Header (U N Me) wrote:
With OE you'll need to filter email and usenet through a program
that actually sits between OE and the server.
I use junkblaster, which you can check out at
Do NOT click on the above URL.
What are you talking about? There is no "above URL."
"Scott McDaniel" <sc***@no.spam.thedatabaseplace.net> wrote in message
news:Qc********************@comcast.com... He meant the URL from the post ABOVE his ... but - and trust me on this -
don't click on it.
Oh. Tony's an idiot. I get it!
(Say, how do *you* know not to click on it?)
"RMD" wrote Do NOT click on the above URL.
And, why not? It wasn't posted anonymously, and Tony's http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm site is full of good, useful Access
information and links that are helpful to Access people.
To assure yourself that this one wasn't posted anonymously, right-click, and
select Properties.
Larry Linson
"Beth L." <Be*********@hotmail.com> wrote Oh. Tony's an idiot. I get it!
No, Tony's very intelligent, helps people with their Access problems, and
warns people so they can avoid newsgroup problems; the vicious one surely
acts like a Don P Mellon, using stupid hotmail pseudonyms such as this and
anonymized posts to mislead people to a chain of nasty porn popups.
"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:H8*****************@nwrddc03.gnilink.net... They may start a chain of popup Browser windows that will take over your
machine. And, too, appropriate weight to give what's said in anonymized
posts is probably "none at all".
It appears our Resident Troll has embarked on another campaign to try to
destroy the usefulness of this newsgroup. He didn't succeed when he tried
before, and he won't succeed this time -- but he will try as hard as he
can to make himself a pain in the tender places.
Larry Linson
larry. is all capitals ok now or is still stupid?
tuk
"Deano" <de*********@hotmail.com> wrote: Yes, I've cottoned on to this guy's patterns - what a saddo.
You have but there are always new visitors who haven't.
Tony
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"Beth L." <Be*********@hotmail.com> wrote: Oh. Tony's an idiot. I get it!
<chuckle>
Tony
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Microsoft Access Links, Hints, Tips & Accounting Systems at http://www.granite.ab.ca/accsmstr.htm bo*****@localhost.not (Larry Linson) wrote in
<H8*****************@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>: They may start a chain of popup Browser windows that will take
over your machine.
Well, Mozilla allows you to suppress popups in general.
If you insist on using IE (I certainly wouldn't recommend it), you
can get the Google Toolbar, which will allow you to suppress popups
in IE.
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dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc bo*****@localhost.not (Larry Linson) wrote in
<8I******************@nwrddc01.gnilink.net>: But, in the past, several anonymizers have themselves blocked this
newsgroup as a destination. That may have contributed to the
winding down of the last assault our Resident Troll made a couple
of years or so ago. Each of the anonymized posts that I have
looked at have, in their header (visible by right-clicking on the
message header in OE and choosing properties) an address
(sometimes two, if both an anonymizer and a mail-to-news service
were involved) to which you can complain. Be sure to copy the
headers, then paste them in before the quoted message you forward,
and include a polite request that the anonymizers block
comp.databases.ms-access as a destination because no repressive
government is going to retaliate for someone asking or answering
questions about database software. Then thank them. In time,
enough requests may convince them to do so.
I would wager that the fake FAQs, the borderline slanderous posts
and the filthy URLs being posted would be more likely to get the
anonymizers to block CDMA than any other kind of content. When Don
had his previous childish fit a year ago, most of the "kills" were
for materials that were unquivocally inappropriate, not just the
annoying stuff. As the target of some of Don's attacks, I don't
have the credibility that 3rd-party complainers would have, I
think.
--
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dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Busted again, Don.
"Franz Helmut" <An****************@See.Comment.Header> wrote
Avant Browser is also very good. I can recommend this one http://www.avantbrowser.com
Arno R
"David W. Fenton" <dX********@bway.net.invalid> schreef in bericht
news:94***************************@24.168.128.86.. . bo*****@localhost.not (Larry Linson) wrote in
<H8*****************@nwrddc03.gnilink.net>:
They may start a chain of popup Browser windows that will take
over your machine.
Well, Mozilla allows you to suppress popups in general.
If you insist on using IE (I certainly wouldn't recommend it), you
can get the Google Toolbar, which will allow you to suppress popups
in IE.
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