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Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from
his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup
more than many.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #1
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I feel the same as Tony!

Steve

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"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
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Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #2
I had wanted to ask what's going on around here since I've been gone.
I'm glad that Tony started this thread so I could pitch in my support
for David. Over the last 7 years, a few names stand out here at
comp.databases.ms-access, and David Fenton is one of them.

--
Danny J. Lesandrini
dl*********@hotmail.com
http://amazecreations.com/datafast
"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:gr********************************@4ax.com...
Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from
his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup
more than many.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #3
Folks, from this post we can conclude that Tony is either
morally corrupt or blind. Fenton's many technical contributions
to the group cannot and never will serve to excuse the FACT that
he publicly fantasises about little boys' private parts.

Ignoring the FACTS cannot hide your shame.
In article <gr********************************@4ax.com>
Tony Toews <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote:

Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from
his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup
more than many.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #4
Hopefully, David's contributions are patently obvious to all, and hopefully,
all trolling regarding David and others is equally transaprent to all.

Notice that the trolling started up again shortly after a few people were
chided for posting messages asking for work or advertising openings for work
as prohibited by the CDMA charter. It seems that this trolling is intended to
punish the group for having and enforcing this charter which the troller(s)
disagree with. Obviously, this person or people are paranoid, vindictive
types with too much time, and not enough purpose in life.

On Sun, 07 Dec 2003 20:55:59 GMT, Tony Toews <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote:
Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from
his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup
more than many.

Tony


Nov 12 '05 #5

"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:gr********************************@4ax.com...
Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.
Like many others here, I have no idea what is going on. It is very
obviously some sort of personal vendetta against Fenton. Someone who has
nothing meaningful to post and conceals his identity, as this "anonymous"
character does, has absolutely no credibility whatever.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #6
Very easy for you to praise Fenton's technical contributions, I
see.

Also very easy for you to support a homosexual pervert that
publicly fantasises about naked little boys.

Are you as morally bankrupt as so many others in this group seem
to be?

In article <br*************@ID-82595.news.uni-berlin.de>
"Danny J. Lesandrini" <dl*********@hotmail.com> wrote:

I had wanted to ask what's going on around here since I've been gone.
I'm glad that Tony started this thread so I could pitch in my support
for David. Over the last 7 years, a few names stand out here at
comp.databases.ms-access, and David Fenton is one of them.

--
Danny J. Lesandrini
dl*********@hotmail.com
http://amazecreations.com/datafast
"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message news:gr********************************@4ax.com...
Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from
his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup
more than many.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #7
DFS
"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
Fenton's many technical contributions
to the group cannot and never will serve to excuse the FACT that
he publicly fantasises about little boys' private parts.

Ignoring the FACTS cannot hide your shame.
Just saying it doesn't make it true, moron. Post proof or admit you're a
liar and leave.


In article <gr********************************@4ax.com>
Tony Toews <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote:

Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #8
rkc

"Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
news:gr********************************@4ax.com...
Folks

David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.


Can you list the criteria a person must meet to belong in this newsgroup?

Nov 12 '05 #9
"rkc" <rk*@yabba.dabba.do.rochester.rr.bomb> wrote:
David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have

learned from
his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this

newsgroup
more than many.


Can you list the criteria a person must meet to belong in this newsgroup?


Good point. I should restate that.

He has contributed more than many to this newsgroup.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #10
Anonymous Sender <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote:
Folks, from this post we can conclude that Tony is ...


supportive of those who have made valuable contributions to this newsgroup.

Tony
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Nov 12 '05 #11

"rkc" <rk*@yabba.dabba.do.rochester.rr.bomb> wrote in message
news:ds*********************@twister.nyroc.rr.com. ..

Can you list the criteria a person must meet to belong in this newsgroup?


Incompetent
Dishonest
MVP
Nov 12 '05 #12
tt****@telusplanet.net (Tony Toews) wrote in
<gr********************************@4ax.com>:
David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup.
I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions
here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.


If it weren't for all the people protesting Don's childish
troublemaking, I wouldn't even know about it, since I have all his
hotmail addresses and all the anonymous remailers in my killfile.

Fixing this kind of thing is pretty easy: simply don't feed the
troll!

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #13
"Victor Vivadeau" is just another psedonym for the coward who hides his
real identity so he won't lose yet another posting source. He lost all
credibility under his own name, so stopped using it and thinks he is clever.
But, inventing aliases and posting from sources that make it difficult to
determine the originator is not sufficient to hide the distinctive posting
style of Don P Mellon, nor his vicious intent.

You've been busted, again, Don -- again and again.

Nov 12 '05 #14

"Larry Linson" <bo*****@localhost.not> wrote in message
news:v0***************@nwrddc01.gnilink.net...
"Victor Vivadeau" is just another psedonym for the coward who hides his
real identity so he won't lose yet another posting source. He lost all
credibility under his own name, so stopped using it and thinks he is clever. But, inventing aliases and posting from sources that make it difficult to
determine the originator is not sufficient to hide the distinctive posting
style of Don P Mellon, nor his vicious intent.

You've been busted, again, Don -- again and again.


What the heck are you babbling about?
Nov 12 '05 #15
Anonymous Sender <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message news:<a4******************************@remailer.me tacolo.com>...
Very easy for you to praise Fenton's technical contributions, I
see.

Also very easy for you to support a homosexual pervert that
publicly fantasises about naked little boys.

Are you as morally bankrupt as so many others in this group seem
to be?


and what exactly does sexual orientation have to do with technical
contributions? You could just killfile him and not have to read
another thing he has to say... after all, it *is* a free country
still... I think. Shouldn't his technical contributions stand on
their technical merits? If not, what other criteria would you
propose?
Nov 12 '05 #16
In article <vt************@corp.supernews.com>
"DFS" <no******@nospam.com> wrote:

"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
Fenton's many technical contributions
to the group cannot and never will serve to excuse the FACT that
he publicly fantasises about little boys' private parts.

Ignoring the FACTS cannot hide your shame.


Just saying it doesn't make it true, moron. Post proof or admit you're a
liar and leave.

Okay. You asked for it. Here it is. Everything below the cutmark is pure, grade A,
unadulterated David Fenton. Or see for yourself at:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm...&output=gplain

================================

| Anyway, my own "camp" story:
|
| There was a Bible Camp right outside Chesterfield (the town near where I
| grew up, then population 300, now 250). Anyway, at one point my sister and
| I were offered a free week at the camp. There were chapel services every
| evening, of course, each ending with the alter call.
|
| There was one girl there who went forward every single time, and got saved
| again, each time.
|
| I was about eight or so, but found this pretty amusing.
|
| Oh, and there was also the time one afternoon when I was sitting in my
| room (eight bunk beds) and a boy came in from the room next door, pulled
| down is pants and rubbed his weinie for my viewing pleasure.
|
| Also, the showers worked by pulling a chain instead of turning spigots,
| but the chains were so high up, that we small boys had to shower in groups
| (two and three at a time), with one climbing up to pull the chain while
| the others took their showers.
|
| The images of boys' bare butts stayed with me as fantasy material for
| years.
|
| David W. Fenton dfenton at bway dot net
| New York University http://www.bway.net/~dfenton

Nov 12 '05 #17
In article <3a**********************@newssvr28.news.prodigy.c om>
"Randy Harris" <ra***@SpamFree.com> wrote:
|
|
| "Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
| news:gr********************************@4ax.com...
| > Folks
| >
| > David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have
| learned from
| > his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this
| newsgroup
| > more than many.
|
| Like many others here, I have no idea what is going on. It is very
| obviously some sort of personal vendetta against Fenton. Someone who has
| nothing meaningful to post and conceals his identity, as this "anonymous"
| character does, has absolutely no credibility whatever.
Credibility? You question the credibility, reality and FACT of
David Fenton's very own public homosexual pervert pedophile
fantasies? IT'S ALL A MATTER OF WRITTEN RECORD, urchin.

Nov 12 '05 #18
Agreed.

As well-intentioned as Tony's post was, I can't help but think that
this entire thread is simply more troll food. (IMHO, of course.)
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 01:48:07 GMT, dX********@bway.net.invalid (David
W. Fenton) wrote:
Fixing this kind of thing is pretty easy: simply don't feed the
troll!


Nov 12 '05 #19
In article <ds*********************@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
"rkc" <rk*@yabba.dabba.do.rochester.rr.bomb> wrote:
|
|
| "Tony Toews" <tt****@telusplanet.net> wrote in message
| news:gr********************************@4ax.com...
| > Folks
| >
| > David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. I have
| learned from
| > his postings and have enjoyed our discussions here. He belongs in this
| newsgroup
| > more than many.
|
| Can you list the criteria a person must meet to belong in this newsgroup?

But, is it not very interesting that half a dozen folks or more
publicly support David Fenton, regardless of the fact that he
publishes homosexual pedophile fantasies?

If David Fenton was your colleague in an IT bureau, and was well
regarded in the company, but was caught downloading massive
quantities of kiddie porn to company computers, or perhaps his
personal computer, would the company keep him?

I doubt a single fair-sized, ordinary IT outfit would ever think
twice about firing a guy like Fenton. Oh sure, he's a smart
chap, but no amount of intelligence can make up for the
inexcusable moral choice made by Fenton, to advertise his
homosexual pedophile fantasies.

So, why is it tolerated here in this group? Why?

Maybe I am wrong. Maybe it really doesn't matter that Fenton
likes to look at little boy's penises. If a capital murderer
stamps my license plate, should I refuse to accept that plate
for my car? Hmmm . . . nope . . . bad comparison, ain't it.

Nov 12 '05 #20
In article <94***************************@24.168.128.86>
dX********@bway.net.invalid (David W. Fenton) wrote:

tt****@telusplanet.net (Tony Toews) wrote in
<gr********************************@4ax.com>:
David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup.
I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions
here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.


If it weren't for all the people protesting Don's childish
troublemaking, I wouldn't even know about it, since I have all his
hotmail addresses and all the anonymous remailers in my killfile.

Fixing this kind of thing is pretty easy: simply don't feed the
troll!

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

David, you're a lost soul.





Nov 12 '05 #21
Don,

I have to say that you are correct in your posting based on the link you
have provided. Your evidence of David's unusually does seem valid. I am
with you in a sense that I would not want my, or anyone's child around any
person having those types of thoughts.

However, as right as you may be, your should really stop now. I have read
your posts and others and you have him - sit back and let it go. I
understand you are passionate about making believers out of everyone, and
from my reading through others posts, they aren't all denying your evidence,
they are denying you for the style of posting you are doing in that it's not
really related to the groups subject.

You are the last person I would want to fight with. You never give up and I
have spent time in the past laughing hysterically at some of the things you
have written. I have also found some of the things you have posted...
devilishly clever and miss that.

You should really take a pause, breather and come back refreshed.

--
Jerry Boone
"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
news:b2******************************@remailer.met acolo.com...
In article <94***************************@24.168.128.86>
dX********@bway.net.invalid (David W. Fenton) wrote:

tt****@telusplanet.net (Tony Toews) wrote in
<gr********************************@4ax.com>:
David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup.
I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions
here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.


If it weren't for all the people protesting Don's childish
troublemaking, I wouldn't even know about it, since I have all his
hotmail addresses and all the anonymous remailers in my killfile.

Fixing this kind of thing is pretty easy: simply don't feed the
troll!

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

David, you're a lost soul.




Nov 12 '05 #22

"Jerry Boone" <je***@antech.biz.killspam> wrote in message
news:D8***************@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com. ..
Don,

I have to say that you are correct in your posting based on the link you
have provided. Your evidence of David's unusually does seem valid. I am
with you in a sense that I would not want my, or anyone's child around any
person having those types of thoughts.

However, as right as you may be, your should really stop now. I have read
your posts and others and you have him - sit back and let it go. I
understand you are passionate about making believers out of everyone, and
from my reading through others posts, they aren't all denying your evidence, they are denying you for the style of posting you are doing in that it's not really related to the groups subject.

You are the last person I would want to fight with. You never give up and I have spent time in the past laughing hysterically at some of the things you have written. I have also found some of the things you have posted...
devilishly clever and miss that.

You should really take a pause, breather and come back refreshed.

--
Jerry Boone


Larry:

Devilishly clever, indeed!

Brook Cole

Nov 12 '05 #23
In article <D8***************@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>
"Jerry Boone" <je***@antech.biz.killspam> wrote:

Don,

I have to say that you are correct in your posting based on the link you
have provided. Your evidence of David's unusually does seem valid. I am
with you in a sense that I would not want my, or anyone's child around any
person having those types of thoughts.

So why do the Larry types go to the point of prevarication
in support of this obvious pervert? Isn't it very strange?
Larry stands out. Is Larry some gay net buddy of David's?
It's really quite strange.

Still, David Fenton does not belong here. It's entirely dishonest
to allow his pervert to participate in this group with
impunity.
However, as right as you may be, your should really stop now. I have read
your posts and others and you have him - sit back and let it go. I
understand you are passionate about making believers out of everyone, and
from my reading through others posts, they aren't all denying your evidence,
they are denying you for the style of posting you are doing in that it's not
really related to the groups subject.
The problem is that some folk just don't get it! This is our group.
None of the regulars should be supporting this pervert Fenton. Period.
And it is flat out fundamentally dishonest to think and suggest
that Fenton's publicly advertised perversions with boys can simply be ignored
for the phony reason that this is just a tech group.

This pervert wouldn't be allowed to keep his job at ANY normal company.
He should not be allowed to keep his "job" here.

Perhaps most importantly, the folks around here frankly need to come out
and condemn this freaky pervert. Our community MUST let Fenton know
that his behavior is despicable. Our community MUST let it be known
to the public that contrary to all the Fenton ass-kissers in this group,
Fenton is an aberration, a freak, a pervert and we would all do better,
if he would go away.

You are the last person I would want to fight with. You never give up and I
have spent time in the past laughing hysterically at some of the things you
have written. I have also found some of the things you have posted...
devilishly clever and miss that.

You should really take a pause, breather and come back refreshed.

--
Jerry Boone
"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
news:b2******************************@remailer.met acolo.com...
In article <94***************************@24.168.128.86>
dX********@bway.net.invalid (David W. Fenton) wrote:

tt****@telusplanet.net (Tony Toews) wrote in
<gr********************************@4ax.com>:

>David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup.
>I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions
>here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.

If it weren't for all the people protesting Don's childish
troublemaking, I wouldn't even know about it, since I have all his
hotmail addresses and all the anonymous remailers in my killfile.

Fixing this kind of thing is pretty easy: simply don't feed the
troll!

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

David, you're a lost soul.















Nov 12 '05 #24
In article <D8***************@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>
"Jerry Boone" <je***@antech.biz.killspam> wrote:

Don,

I have to say that you are correct in your posting based on the link you
have provided. Your evidence of David's unusually does seem valid. I am
with you in a sense that I would not want my, or anyone's child around any
person having those types of thoughts.

So why do the Larry types go to the point of prevarication
in support of this obvious pervert? Isn't it very strange?
Larry stands out. Is Larry some gay net buddy of David's?
It's really quite strange.

Still, David Fenton does not belong here. It's entirely dishonest
to allow his pervert to participate in this group with
impunity.
However, as right as you may be, your should really stop now. I have read
your posts and others and you have him - sit back and let it go. I
understand you are passionate about making believers out of everyone, and
from my reading through others posts, they aren't all denying your evidence,
they are denying you for the style of posting you are doing in that it's not
really related to the groups subject.
The problem is that some folk just don't get it! This is our group.
None of the regulars should be supporting this pervert Fenton. Period.
And it is flat out fundamentally dishonest to think and suggest
that Fenton's publicly advertised perversions with boys can simply be ignored
for the phony reason that this is just a tech group.

This pervert wouldn't be allowed to keep his job at ANY normal company.
He should not be allowed to keep his "job" here.

Perhaps most importantly, the folks around here frankly need to come out
and condemn this freaky pervert. Our community MUST let Fenton know
that his behavior is despicable. Our community MUST let it be known
to the public that contrary to all the Fenton ass-kissers in this group,
Fenton is an aberration, a freak, a pervert and we would all do better,
if he would go away.

You are the last person I would want to fight with. You never give up and I
have spent time in the past laughing hysterically at some of the things you
have written. I have also found some of the things you have posted...
devilishly clever and miss that.

You should really take a pause, breather and come back refreshed.

--
Jerry Boone
"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
news:b2******************************@remailer.met acolo.com...
In article <94***************************@24.168.128.86>
dX********@bway.net.invalid (David W. Fenton) wrote:

tt****@telusplanet.net (Tony Toews) wrote in
<gr********************************@4ax.com>:

>David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup.
>I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions
>here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.

If it weren't for all the people protesting Don's childish
troublemaking, I wouldn't even know about it, since I have all his
hotmail addresses and all the anonymous remailers in my killfile.

Fixing this kind of thing is pretty easy: simply don't feed the
troll!

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc

David, you're a lost soul.















Nov 12 '05 #25
Don,

I don't think Larry is a gay net buddy of Fenton's. It's just that you have
pushed Larry for years and he is at the point in which he is not going to
cooperate with you... and the others too... and vice versa. :) I'm
probably the only one you haven't pissed off yet, which is why I am
evaluating your comments instead of rejecting them.

The angle you are pursuing is that of rejection of employment. In fact, if
you want a closer observation... you would state that "the donation bucket
doesn't accept contributions from certain entities". However, I don't think
the FAQ has advanced to mention that "freaky gay people and perverts cannot
contribute to on-topic discussions". It is the only flimsy law book that
exists in this group, and it's quite clear that there is no authority
thereof.

However, as freaky as he may be, as different as he could be, and as much as
I would never want to actually meet him if your accusations are true, I must
say that there is no way that this freaky nature of his has affected the
group.... and if you had never mentioned it, I would still be reading his
posts thinking "hmm... that's a good/bad idea". That's not a negative
comment to you, but rather a common sense statement of reality.

If you want to do something really, really, really constructive, send a
search warranted detective to his house using your evidence. Hell, they
find some evidence it could even put him in jail, which would accomplish
your goal entirely. It is a fact that District Attorneys prosecute drug
dealers and molesters first, the rest of the bad apples come after that...
so go for it.

Think about it Don, I know you can. If this is all true then you have no
problem...... that is if you get out from behind the computer screen and do
something about it.

--
Jerry Boone
"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
news:c4******************************@remailer.met acolo.com...
In article <D8***************@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>
"Jerry Boone" <je***@antech.biz.killspam> wrote:

Don,

I have to say that you are correct in your posting based on the link you
have provided. Your evidence of David's unusually does seem valid. I am with you in a sense that I would not want my, or anyone's child around any person having those types of thoughts.

So why do the Larry types go to the point of prevarication
in support of this obvious pervert? Isn't it very strange?
Larry stands out. Is Larry some gay net buddy of David's?
It's really quite strange.

Still, David Fenton does not belong here. It's entirely dishonest
to allow his pervert to participate in this group with
impunity.
However, as right as you may be, your should really stop now. I have read your posts and others and you have him - sit back and let it go. I
understand you are passionate about making believers out of everyone, and from my reading through others posts, they aren't all denying your evidence, they are denying you for the style of posting you are doing in that it's not really related to the groups subject.

The problem is that some folk just don't get it! This is our group.
None of the regulars should be supporting this pervert Fenton. Period.
And it is flat out fundamentally dishonest to think and suggest
that Fenton's publicly advertised perversions with boys can simply be

ignored for the phony reason that this is just a tech group.

This pervert wouldn't be allowed to keep his job at ANY normal company.
He should not be allowed to keep his "job" here.

Perhaps most importantly, the folks around here frankly need to come out
and condemn this freaky pervert. Our community MUST let Fenton know
that his behavior is despicable. Our community MUST let it be known
to the public that contrary to all the Fenton ass-kissers in this group,
Fenton is an aberration, a freak, a pervert and we would all do better,
if he would go away.

You are the last person I would want to fight with. You never give up and I have spent time in the past laughing hysterically at some of the things you have written. I have also found some of the things you have posted...
devilishly clever and miss that.

You should really take a pause, breather and come back refreshed.

--
Jerry Boone
"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
news:b2******************************@remailer.met acolo.com...
In article <94***************************@24.168.128.86>
dX********@bway.net.invalid (David W. Fenton) wrote:
>
> tt****@telusplanet.net (Tony Toews) wrote in
> <gr********************************@4ax.com>:
>
> >David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup.
> >I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions
> >here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.
>
> If it weren't for all the people protesting Don's childish
> troublemaking, I wouldn't even know about it, since I have all his
> hotmail addresses and all the anonymous remailers in my killfile.
>
> Fixing this kind of thing is pretty easy: simply don't feed the
> troll!
>
> --
> David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
> dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
David, you're a lost soul.














Nov 12 '05 #26
Anonymous <no****@nox.lemuria.org> wrote:
The problem is that some folk just don't get it! This is our group.
No, it's not your group. You are a minority of one. 1. All by yourself.
None of the regulars should be supporting this pervert Fenton. Period.


Rubbish.

More rubbish deleted.

Tony
--
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Please respond only in the newsgroups so that others can
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Nov 12 '05 #27
Just to let you know who I am... once I was driving down the street and two
blocks away I saw two boys fighting, and destroying a truck in the process.
A total of at least 10 cars must have passed by and didn't so much as step
on the brake to stop. Me? You bet your ass... I stopped the truck (despite
my stepson being scared out of his wits for me doing so), got out, and put
an end to it. Then I went in, told the owner of the business about his
truck with the door caved in, and stuck around for the police to show up so
I could put my name down as a direct witness.

This country is going nowhere unless people start doing that. If I am 1 out
of 10 in every case, we are screwed. What about my stepson? He learned by
example and will likely do that for someone else because he now understands
that every productive member of society has a vital role in helping society
succeed against the elements that be. Putting your foot down to stop
something is an admirable trait - one I congratulate you on, even if you are
only in it... for a small percentage of your "beef" with David.

In the IT position, I am responsible for turning in someone who has child
porn on their computer. Will I? You bet your ass, in a heartbeat.
You wrote...
If a pedophile coached your son's little league and you had no idea that
the coach was a pedophile, I guess it just would not matter, would it?!
Oh man alive, I am starting to see the light now! However, your point,
does suggest a different approach.
and... If the coach of your son had posted to usenet the kind of statements
that David Fenton has, would you want to know about it?
Be careful there... if a pedophile were leading my son's team two things
would happen and I don't need to explain them in public - end of story.
However, that's not the case here since the group is about Access and not
about little league. If he were a mischievous Access hacker who had a
history of publishing code that lit up destructive components causing damage
to my system, then you have significant reason to know he could be dangerous
to the group. Apples to oranges...

It seems that you are on a personal vengeance - that's ok. We all find
ourselves in those from time to time. You popped your shells and you should
sit back and relax, after you submit your evidence to the proper place - not
just to CDMA. If your story makes the headlines, we would have known anyway
and would have saved me a lot of typing! :)

You know, I haven't read enough of David's posts to know if they are truly
valuable or not. So your minor points do escape my judgment.

On your major point about young people seeking help in this group, I assure
you there are much worse groups they could attend in order to meet up with
danger, despite my philosophical points of an answer to a question is right
or wrong. Example... I have never seen answers phrased like "...insert your
components in my mouth" in this group. Well... maybe I'm wrong about that,
you will surely point those out for our "viewing pleasure"...


"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
news:ed******************************@remailer.met acolo.com... In article <nu****************@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>
"Jerry Boone" <je***@antech.biz.killspam> wrote:

Don,
If you must ascribe the nom de plume "Don" . . .


I don't think Larry is a gay net buddy of Fenton's. It's just that you have pushed Larry for years and he is at the point in which he is not going to cooperate with you... and the others too... and vice versa. :) I'm
probably the only one you haven't pissed off yet, which is why I am
evaluating your comments instead of rejecting them.


Agreed then, Larry is an irrational jackoff.


The angle you are pursuing is that of rejection of employment. In fact, if you want a closer observation... you would state that "the donation bucket doesn't accept contributions from certain entities". However, I don't think the FAQ has advanced to mention that "freaky gay people and perverts cannot contribute to on-topic discussions". It is the only flimsy law book that exists in this group, and it's quite clear that there is no authority
thereof.

If a pedophile coached your son's little league and you had no idea that
the coach was a pedophile, I guess it just would not matter, would it?!
Oh man alive, I am starting to see the light now! However, your point,
does suggest a different approach.


However, as freaky as he may be, as different as he could be, and as much as I would never want to actually meet him if your accusations are true, I must say that there is no way that this freaky nature of his has affected the
group.... and if you had never mentioned it, I would still be reading his posts thinking "hmm... that's a good/bad idea". That's not a negative
comment to you, but rather a common sense statement of reality.

See above. Quite philosophical you are. The point you make is

deceptively simple. If David Fenton says "2 plus 2 equals 4", his peccadillos
are irrlevant to the evaluation of that statement. And you are correct.
Tautologies are tautologies.

I agree with you, if that is all that can or should be said about it.
However, there is more to it. First, the minor point. In the abstract,
not all on-topic discussions in this group concern tautological statements. A substantial portion of the technical discussion moves into the area
of opinion. Not all the time, granted, but often enough, David Fenton makes statements on technical issues wherein knowledge of his personal pecadillos would indeed be relevant and enlightening.

The second minor point is where David Fenton chooses to attack someone.
When David decides to attack, call names, lodge personal criticisms, etc.,
well, your argument falls completely apart, because David has
opened the door by attacking others. He continues to open the door and
this is reason enough to inform others about David's sex with "boys", as
he described it himself.

The major point to be made, however, is one that has probably been lost.
And that is that children, specifically underage boys, do from
time to time come to this group to seek help. I go back to the
little league example.

If the coach of your son had posted to usenet the kind of statements
that David Fenton has, would you want to know about it?



If you want to do something really, really, really constructive, send a
search warranted detective to his house using your evidence. Hell, they
find some evidence it could even put him in jail, which would accomplish
your goal entirely. It is a fact that District Attorneys prosecute drug
dealers and molesters first, the rest of the bad apples come after that... so go for it.

Think about it Don, I know you can. If this is all true then you have no problem...... that is if you get out from behind the computer screen and do something about it.

--
Jerry Boone
"Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message
news:c4******************************@remailer.met acolo.com...
In article <D8***************@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>
"Jerry Boone" <je***@antech.biz.killspam> wrote:
>
> Don,
>
> I have to say that you are correct in your posting based on the link you > have provided. Your evidence of David's unusually does seem valid. I
am
> with you in a sense that I would not want my, or anyone's child
around any
> person having those types of thoughts.
>

So why do the Larry types go to the point of prevarication
in support of this obvious pervert? Isn't it very strange?
Larry stands out. Is Larry some gay net buddy of David's?
It's really quite strange.

Still, David Fenton does not belong here. It's entirely dishonest
to allow his pervert to participate in this group with
impunity.

> However, as right as you may be, your should really stop now. I
have read
> your posts and others and you have him - sit back and let it go. I
> understand you are passionate about making believers out of
everyone, and
> from my reading through others posts, they aren't all denying your

evidence,
> they are denying you for the style of posting you are doing in that
it's not
> really related to the groups subject.
>
The problem is that some folk just don't get it! This is our group.
None of the regulars should be supporting this pervert Fenton.
Period. And it is flat out fundamentally dishonest to think and suggest
that Fenton's publicly advertised perversions with boys can simply be

ignored
for the phony reason that this is just a tech group.

This pervert wouldn't be allowed to keep his job at ANY normal company. He should not be allowed to keep his "job" here.

Perhaps most importantly, the folks around here frankly need to come out and condemn this freaky pervert. Our community MUST let Fenton know
that his behavior is despicable. Our community MUST let it be known
to the public that contrary to all the Fenton ass-kissers in this group, Fenton is an aberration, a freak, a pervert and we would all do better, if he would go away.
> You are the last person I would want to fight with. You never give up and I
> have spent time in the past laughing hysterically at some of the
things you
> have written. I have also found some of the things you have

posted... > devilishly clever and miss that.
>
> You should really take a pause, breather and come back refreshed.
>
> --
> Jerry Boone
>
>
> "Anonymous Sender" <an*******@remailer.metacolo.com> wrote in message > news:b2******************************@remailer.met acolo.com...
> > In article <94***************************@24.168.128.86>
> > dX********@bway.net.invalid (David W. Fenton) wrote:
> > >
> > > tt****@telusplanet.net (Tony Toews) wrote in
> > > <gr********************************@4ax.com>:
> > >
> > > >David Fenton does a fine job in helping folks in this newsgroup. > > > >I have learned from his postings and have enjoyed our discussions > > > >here. He belongs in this newsgroup more than many.
> > >
> > > If it weren't for all the people protesting Don's childish
> > > troublemaking, I wouldn't even know about it, since I have all his > > > hotmail addresses and all the anonymous remailers in my killfile. > > >
> > > Fixing this kind of thing is pretty easy: simply don't feed the
> > > troll!
> > >
> > > --
> > > David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton > > > dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc > >
> >
> > David, you're a lost soul.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >



















































Nov 12 '05 #28
Hey, you know - I am glad you pointed out the link. I am for people who
step out and say, hey - this isn't right. However, once would have done it,
the persistence you have pressed out has made you look insane. Whether or
not you believe it, your post is impactfull and you could find some heavy
backfire if your allegations are by chance false.

Yes, the DA is probably snowed under in NY. But if there is something
already pending, your evidence (if valid) will spur interest and expedite
action or add to the case in a positive way. Now that you have done all of
this publicly... one has a chance of preparing against such evidence, which
negates the whole dam thing.

The next post you make, should be one that links to a conviction - that
would then be your moment to gloat. But really man, save it for that - ok?
Quit posting the anonymous stuff all over the group - it isn't doing anyone
any good (you especially) and the children you feel you are protecting are
getting an eyeful, indirectly.

--
Jerry Boone
"Anonymous" <no****@nox.lemuria.org> wrote in message
news:c9******************************@nox.lemuria. org...
second followup . . .

In article <nu****************@newssvr23.news.prodigy.com>
"Jerry Boone" <je***@antech.biz.killspam> wrote:

Don,
-cut-
If you want to do something really, really, really constructive, send a
search warranted detective to his house using your evidence. Hell, they
find some evidence it could even put him in jail, which would accomplish
your goal entirely. It is a fact that District Attorneys prosecute drug
dealers and molesters first, the rest of the bad apples come after that... so go for it.

Fair enough. Fenton's screeds will be sent to the NY DA, without comment

or judgment. But, as a parent, do you want
to wait around for the DA to finish eating his donut, or would you rather
be informed about someone so that you can make your own judgment call.

Think about it Don, I know you can. If this is all true then you have no problem...... that is if you get out from behind the computer screen and do something about it.

Will do . . .


--
Jerry Boone

Nov 12 '05 #29
Jerry,

If you followed the links, you know these posts are misrepresenting them by
quoting out of context. The old-timers here, from the target and the posting
style simply assume this to be the work of Don P Mellon. Don lost all
credibility posting under his own ID and has had to resort to aliases,
impersonation, and anonymity.

He's not trying to "protect kids" because he can easily see from the posts
he's quoting that there's no pedophilia involved; he's just trying to smear
David. I'd guess it doesn't bother him a bit that he's the one who's giving
kids "an eyeful". He's tried to smear others and make others (especially
MVPs) look bad in the past. If there's anyone involved here with an
unhealthy interest in things sexual, it's the anonymous poster.

Larry Linson

Nov 12 '05 #30
bo*****@localhost.not (Larry Linson) wrote in
<wB****************@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>:
He's not trying to "protect kids" because he can easily see from
the posts he's quoting that there's no pedophilia involved; he's
just trying to smear David. I'd guess it doesn't bother him a bit
that he's the one who's giving kids "an eyeful". He's tried to
smear others and make others (especially MVPs) look bad in the
past. If there's anyone involved here with an unhealthy interest
in things sexual, it's the anonymous poster.


The thing that makes me giggle is how much time it must take to
cull these nuggets from the 10s of thousands of posts I've made
over the years. He has to read a lot of stuff to come up with
these.

Don's obsession is really rather amusing.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #31
In article <94***************************@24.168.128.86>
dX********@bway.net.invalid (David W. Fenton) wrote:

bo*****@localhost.not (Larry Linson) wrote in
<wB****************@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>:
He's not trying to "protect kids" because he can easily see from
the posts he's quoting that there's no pedophilia involved; he's
just trying to smear David. I'd guess it doesn't bother him a bit
that he's the one who's giving kids "an eyeful". He's tried to
smear others and make others (especially MVPs) look bad in the
past. If there's anyone involved here with an unhealthy interest
in things sexual, it's the anonymous poster.


The thing that makes me giggle is how much time it must take to
cull these nuggets from the 10s of thousands of posts I've made
over the years. He has to read a lot of stuff to come up with
these.

Don's obsession is really rather amusing.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc


David, http://www.goatse.cx/hello.jpg






Nov 12 '05 #32
Explain it to the judge, perv.

In article <94***************************@24.168.128.86>
dX********@bway.net.invalid (David W. Fenton) wrote:

bo*****@localhost.not (Larry Linson) wrote in
<wB****************@nwrddc02.gnilink.net>:
He's not trying to "protect kids" because he can easily see from
the posts he's quoting that there's no pedophilia involved; he's
just trying to smear David. I'd guess it doesn't bother him a bit
that he's the one who's giving kids "an eyeful". He's tried to
smear others and make others (especially MVPs) look bad in the
past. If there's anyone involved here with an unhealthy interest
in things sexual, it's the anonymous poster.


The thing that makes me giggle is how much time it must take to
cull these nuggets from the 10s of thousands of posts I've made
over the years. He has to read a lot of stuff to come up with
these.

Don's obsession is really rather amusing.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc







Nov 12 '05 #33
no****@nox.lemuria.org (Anonymous) wrote in
<1e******************************@nox.lemuria.org> :
David, http://www.goatse.cx/hello.jpg


You accuse *me* of somehow polluting the newsgroup and you post
*this*?

Seek psychiatric help, Don. You obviously have gone off the deep
end.

--
David W. Fenton http://www.bway.net/~dfenton
dfenton at bway dot net http://www.bway.net/~dfassoc
Nov 12 '05 #34

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