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Hi everybody,

I'm a 22 yrs old girl. I've been developing a Database for 6 months no
using Access. A week ago I had this feeling that I'm wasting my time
in Access. I don't think it's wise to keep on working with Access.
Instead I think I should consider learning and being a certified Oracle
proffessional or something. What do you guys think?

Thanks for your help.
Miriam

May 11 '06 #1
23 2005
"Louly" <mi*****@gmail. com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ q12g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .
Hi everybody,

I'm a 22 yrs old girl. I've been developing a Database for 6 months no
using Access. A week ago I had this feeling that I'm wasting my time
in Access. I don't think it's wise to keep on working with Access.
Instead I think I should consider learning and being a certified Oracle
proffessional or something. What do you guys think?

Thanks for your help.
Miriam


It depends what field of business you're in. Oracle is the heavyweight
contender but in my limited experience of it I am not aware of there being
any front end developer-interface as such - the systems I've worked on have
had very complexly coded HTML PL/SQL front ends. I am aware of a report
generator but it's a real pig compared to Access.You also don't have the
luxury of office links. Of course I stand to be corrected on all of this
since our version of Oracle is ancient but, as I say, depends what you want
to do.

Regards,
Keith.
www.keithwilby.com
May 11 '06 #2
Keith,

Thanks a lot for you quick response. I really don't know what to do!
I used Oracle in my graduation project and I fell in love with it. But
I agree with you about the office links part.

Thanks,
Miriam

May 11 '06 #3
"Louly" <mi*****@gmail. com> wrote in message
news:11******** **************@ j73g2000cwa.goo glegroups.com.. .
Keith,

Thanks a lot for you quick response. I really don't know what to do!
I used Oracle in my graduation project and I fell in love with it. But
I agree with you about the office links part.

Thanks,
Miriam


What line of work are you in? The answer to that question will have a huge
bearing on which route you take.

Keith.
May 11 '06 #4
IMO the goal of MS for Access is to enable development for and by those
with no brain, no education and no work ethic. If achievement without
effort appeals to you, go for Access, but remember that your
competition for work will be everyone.

If not, find something else. As you are 22, your potential is
unlimited. Starve for a few years. Learn everything about databases.
Read about databases in the bathtub. Sing about databases as you walk.
Write about databases to your parents. Argue about databases with your
friends.

Unless, of course, databases don't interest you; in that case sell Real
Estate.

May 11 '06 #5
I work for an Intelectual Property Law firm. I'm not planning to work
here for long. I just want to finish this system and leave.

Well Lyle, I'm very much inrterested in Databases, but I still can't
answer the question of "do I want to spend the rest of my life in this
field or not?"

I really appreciate your help!

May 11 '06 #6
> IMO the goal of MS for Access is to enable development for and by those
with no brain, no education and no work ethic.

correction - access is often USED BY this kind of person (resulting in
legacy headaches from hell usually). However, it should be acknowledged
that access (in the right hands) is an extremely powerful tool both as
a complete midrange database solution and a front end to more powerful
RDBMSs.

and lyle - speaking of work ethic - you do quite a bit of posting here
(usually good quality too) ...where do you get the time if you are so
busy working to your high ethical standards?

Louly, if you can get into Oracle dev work then do. the money is
faaaaar better and you will be taken a lot more seriously as an IT
professional. But be prepaired to work for banks on 24 call as part of
a large team, half of which is based in india - and with no end-to-end
creative input.

The thing i like about access dev work is that you tend to design the
whole deal, the front end and the back end. it's generally your baby
and you can do what you like with it.

May 11 '06 #7
rkc
Lyle Fairfield wrote:
IMO the goal of MS for Access is to enable development for and by those
with no brain, no education and no work ethic. If achievement without
effort appeals to you, go for Access, but remember that your
competition for work will be everyone.


From what I have read that certainly seems to be the major
goal of Access 2007. Wizards up the wazoo. Amazing results
with out the need for a "developer" .
May 11 '06 #8
BillCo wrote:
IMO the goal of MS for Access is to enable development for and by those with no brain, no education and no work ethic.

correction - access is often USED BY this kind of person (resulting in
legacy headaches from hell usually). However, it should be acknowledged
that access (in the right hands) is an extremely powerful tool both as
a complete midrange database solution and a front end to more powerful
RDBMSs.


Over tha past few weeks here in CDMA we have had questions the reading
of which might generate the belief that the poster knows PISS ALL about
databases, computers or the subject of the database. This would not be
surprising and we could just go about the task of gently helping were
it not that often the identification or email designation of this
person indicates that he or she is, or works for a corporation called
Super_Smart_Dat a, or Supreme_Databas e_Solutions and the message text
indicates that this corporation has clients.
and lyle - speaking of work ethic - you do quite a bit of posting here
(usually good quality too) ...where do you get the time if you are so
busy working to your high ethical standards?


6:48 am
4:35 pm
9:41 am
10:16 am
6:52 am
5:36 am
7:23 am
6:13 am
2:00 am
8:07 pm

May 11 '06 #9
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6:48 am
4:35 pm
<snip>
8:07 pm

not married then ;)
works for a corporation called Super_Smart_Dat a, or Supreme_Databas e_Solutions and the message text indicates that this corporation has clients


Point well made and probably deserved... but the fact remains that
there is nothing inherently wrong with Access as a low to mid range
database solution. (notice i called it a database solution, not a
database or RDBMS - which technically it isnt).
It's robust, efficient, contains its own UI and programming tools
aswell as the *ahem* jet DB engine. It's great for RAD and prototyping.
In fact for small to mid sized organisations it's significantly the
better option for a lot of needs, especially when coupled with an SQL
back end for a larger user base. Would you build a .net interface to an
Oracle DB for managing stock in a small warehouse, or tracking public
enquiries to a small help desk?

May 11 '06 #10

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