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Versions of Access needed A2K MDE? Runtime?

1) Is there a free runtime version of Access available that is more recent
than the one for Access 2000?

2) If I create an application (MDE) in A2K, will it run on all later
versions of Access?

3) If I create a CD using A2K Developer that includes the runtime version of
Access 2K and an installation package, and if someone tries to install the
application from the CD, what happens if someone already has Access 2000 or
a later version on their PC? Does it try to install the runtime anyway or
is it smart enough to know that the runtime will not be needed?

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Regards,
Peter
Nov 12 '05 #1
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"wolftor" <wo*****@rogers .com> wrote in message
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1) Is there a free runtime version of Access available that is more recent than the one for Access 2000?
AFAIK, there has never been, and never will be, a "free" version of the
Access runtime.

2) If I create an application (MDE) in A2K, will it run on all later
versions of Access?
I don't have Access here to check, but from memory, I believe the online
help for Access 97 specifically stated that MDEs would not work on future
versions. It's unlikely that this rule will change, IMO.

3) If I create a CD using A2K Developer that includes the runtime version of Access 2K and an installation package, and if someone tries to install the
application from the CD, what happens if someone already has Access 2000 or a later version on their PC? Does it try to install the runtime anyway or
is it smart enough to know that the runtime will not be needed?
Don't know.

HTH,
TC


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Regards,
Peter


Nov 12 '05 #2
To your last question -
If you run an installation package which includes a runtime on a machine
where that version of Access is already installed, the runtime will not be
installed.
If however, for instance, you run a package with A2K runtime on a
machine where Access 97 is already installed, A2K runtime *will* be
installed.

HTH
- Turtle

"wolftor" <wo*****@rogers .com> wrote in message
news:Sm******** ***********@new s01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers. com...
1) Is there a free runtime version of Access available that is more recent than the one for Access 2000?

2) If I create an application (MDE) in A2K, will it run on all later
versions of Access?

3) If I create a CD using A2K Developer that includes the runtime version of Access 2K and an installation package, and if someone tries to install the
application from the CD, what happens if someone already has Access 2000 or a later version on their PC? Does it try to install the runtime anyway or
is it smart enough to know that the runtime will not be needed?

--
Regards,
Peter

Nov 12 '05 #3
"MacDermott " <ma********@nos pam.com> wrote in message
news:bu******** *********@newsr ead2.news.atl.e arthlink.net...
To your last question -
If you run an installation package which includes a runtime on a machine
where that version of Access is already installed, the runtime will not be
installed. [snip]


That's not exactly correct. The Runtime "environmen t" is installed regardless
of whether the licensed product already exists or not. It just uses the
existing folder locations when a licensed version is present. Additionally; if
the Access executable in your Runtime package is newer than the one already
present the existing one is replaced.
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Nov 12 '05 #4
Does anyone know the answers to questions 1 & 2?
Also, If I create my mde in Access97 (still my favorite version because of
how simple it is to double click on a subform to open that subform), and
package it with the runtime, will the app work if the user has other
versions of Access (or no Access at all) and other versions of Windows than
was used for packaging?
"wolftor" <wo*****@rogers .com> wrote in message
news:Sm******** ***********@new s01.bloor.is.ne t.cable.rogers. com...
1) Is there a free runtime version of Access available that is more recent
than the one for Access 2000?

2) If I create an application (MDE) in A2K, will it run on all later
versions of Access?

3) If I create a CD using A2K Developer that includes the runtime version of
Access 2K and an installation package, and if someone tries to install the
application from the CD, what happens if someone already has Access 2000 or
a later version on their PC? Does it try to install the runtime anyway or
is it smart enough to know that the runtime will not be needed?

--
Regards,
Peter

Nov 12 '05 #5
wolftor previously wrote:
1) Is there a free runtime version of Access available that is more
recent
than the one for Access 2000?
No version of the Access runtime has ever been free.
If you are using a 'free' version then you are using an unlicensed
version.
2) If I create an application (MDE) in A2K, will it run on all later
versions of Access?


Probably, if it doesn't include references for other products.
(All can only be 2002 and 2003 - who knows what will happen after that)

Regards

Peter Russell
Nov 12 '05 #6
SA
A2000 mdes are able to be run currently in Access 2002 (Xp) and in Access
2003; they all use the Jet 4.0 engine....
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"Peter Russell" <ru***@127.0.0. 1> wrote in message
news:me******** **************@ russellscott.bt internet.com...
wolftor previously wrote:
1) Is there a free runtime version of Access available that is more
recent
than the one for Access 2000?


No version of the Access runtime has ever been free.
If you are using a 'free' version then you are using an unlicensed
version.
2) If I create an application (MDE) in A2K, will it run on all later
versions of Access?


Probably, if it doesn't include references for other products.
(All can only be 2002 and 2003 - who knows what will happen after that)

Regards

Peter Russell

Nov 12 '05 #7
Perhaps I'm not clear on just what you mean by the runtime "environmen t".

I don't have direct access to the client sites at this point, but I'm pretty
sure I've had sites where the full Access 97 and the Runtime Access 2000
co-existed.

As I understand what you're describing, if for example a full version of A2K
was installed on a PC, and I executed an install package with A2K runtime,
the full version would be disabled and only the runtime would work. That
would not make me a happy customer.

Is there something I'm misunderstandin g here?
- Turtle

"Rick Brandt" <ri*********@ho tmail.com> wrote in message
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"MacDermott " <ma********@nos pam.com> wrote in message
news:bu******** *********@newsr ead2.news.atl.e arthlink.net...
To your last question -
If you run an installation package which includes a runtime on a machine where that version of Access is already installed, the runtime will not be installed. [snip]
That's not exactly correct. The Runtime "environmen t" is installed

regardless of whether the licensed product already exists or not. It just uses the
existing folder locations when a licensed version is present. Additionally; if the Access executable in your Runtime package is newer than the one already present the existing one is replaced.
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Nov 12 '05 #8
"MacDermott " <ma********@nos pam.com> wrote in message
news:_q******** ********@newsre ad1.news.atl.ea rthlink.net...
Perhaps I'm not clear on just what you mean by the runtime "environmen t".

I don't have direct access to the client sites at this point, but I'm pretty
sure I've had sites where the full Access 97 and the Runtime Access 2000
co-existed.

As I understand what you're describing, if for example a full version of A2K
was installed on a PC, and I executed an install package with A2K runtime,
the full version would be disabled and only the runtime would work. That
would not make me a happy customer.

Is there something I'm misunderstandin g here?
- Turtle


I didn't mean to imply that the installation of the Runtime would disable the
licensed version. Only that it still gets installed.

If the setup program sees no licensed installation of Access then it installs
itself in a subfolder of the application being installed. If it sees there is a
licensed version installed it uses that existing folder location instead. It
will still replace any files in the existing Office folder that are older
versions than that being installed by the Runtime (including the Access
executable) and it will install the files and registry entries to support the
Runtime. On such a machine for example the /Runtime switch can be used whereas
on a machine with only the licensed version it cannot (unless its the
Developer's Edition).

Mind you, I have seen the scenario you describe above under certain
circumstances.
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Nov 12 '05 #9
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"wolftor" <wo*****@rogers .com> wrote in message
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(SNIP)
Does anyone know the answers to questions 1 & 2?

Yes, I gave them to you. Did you not see them?

TC

Nov 12 '05 #10

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