someone fill me in - VS Express Editions

http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/
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I've just seen the ad and the download page.
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1) what are you missing if you use these as opposed to full version of Visual Studio?
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2) can you install all the express editions on the same computer?
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I mostly do wsh scripting and I'm assuming the vb edition will support this with intellisense... which, well, makes me
want to jump up and down :). However I do also occasionally do some vb.net/asp.net/csharp.net projects and used visual
studio 2005 at a previous employer. If I had to guess I'd say there is likely no visual source safe support, which is
fine with me, but what else don't you get?
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I'm going to start the dvd iso download now. I'm actually in the middle of a scripting project right now and I'm using
notepad++. Anyone care to share the bottom line on these express editions?
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!1) what are you missing if you use these as opposed to full version ofVisual Studio?
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Here's the differences :
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http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/vs2005/aa700921.aspx
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http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/
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I've just seen the ad and the download page.
>
1) what are you missing if you use these as opposed to full version of
Visual Studio?
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2) can you install all the express editions on the same computer?
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I mostly do wsh scripting and I'm assuming the vb edition will support this
with intellisense... which, well, makes me want to jump up and down :).
However I do also occasionally do some vb.net/asp.net/csharp.net projects
and used visual studio 2005 at a previous employer. If I had to guess I'd
say there is likely no visual source safe support, which is fine with me,
but what else don't you get?
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I'm going to start the dvd iso download now. I'm actually in the middle of a
scripting project right now and I'm using notepad++. Anyone care to share
the bottom line on these express editions?

Studio is the only example of this). Professional and Enterprise
editions are going to be appropriate (and the only legal option) for
most Microsoft development scenarios.

On Aug 26, 3:41 pm, JDeats <Jeremy.De...@gmail.comwrote:
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What do you mean by "the only legal option")? There are no legal
restrictions on any programs you create with the Express editions.
You can sell them, rent them, or give them away at your discretion.
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Chris

On Aug 26, 3:46 pm, Chris Dunaway <dunaw...@gmail.comwrote:>
There have been cases were third-party component developers got into
legal trouble with Microsoft by trying to support Visual C# Express,
apparently Microsoft has a pretty strict policy on allowing third-
party controls not being allowed (see reference on testdriven.net
below). Witht he ability to only connect to SQL Server Express edition
and crippled debugging features, Express editions are a poor choice
for enterprise development because of their lack of integration
features and probably a poor choice for most professional development
scenarios in general. When I said "the only legal option" I was
refering to steps a developer might take to circumvent these
limitations to make the product more featured which would put them in
violation of the license agreement (see testdriven.net case).
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I'm not aware of any legal constraint that would stop someone from
selling their Visual C# Express creations or even using Visual C#
Express for Professional I just don't see it being practical in the
later
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Reference:
http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archi...riven-net.aspx
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You might also find some limitations with 3rd party tools. I use VWD Express
and cannot use reports from a certain 3rd party company. This information is
not going to be documented specifically in the Microsoft web sites.
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http://www.microsoft.com/express/download/
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I've just seen the ad and the download page.
>
1) what are you missing if you use these as opposed to full version of
Visual Studio?
>
2) can you install all the express editions on the same computer?
>
I mostly do wsh scripting and I'm assuming the vb edition will support
this with intellisense... which, well, makes me want to jump up and down
:). However I do also occasionally do some vb.net/asp.net/csharp.net
projects and used visual studio 2005 at a previous employer. If I had to
guess I'd say there is likely no visual source safe support, which is fine
with me, but what else don't you get?
>
I'm going to start the dvd iso download now. I'm actually in the middle of
a scripting project right now and I'm using notepad++. Anyone care to
share the bottom line on these express editions?
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well, it is cool that you can develop .net apps without having to buy VS but my exitement is gone after downloading,
installing, and seeing no support for intellisense when creating/editing WSH files. Thats what I was looking for.
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bummer.
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thanks for all the input anyway!
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re:
!it is cool that you can develop .net apps without having to buy VS but
my exitement is gone
!after downloading, installing, and seeing no support for intellisense
when creating/editing WSH files.
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Why would you think that a web development tool would have support for WSH
files ?
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!Thats what I was looking for
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That's what you were *mistakenly* looking for.
Web development has nothing to do with WSH.
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well, it is cool that you can develop .net apps without having to buy VS but
my exitement is gone after downloading, installing, and seeing no support
for intellisense when creating/editing WSH files. Thats what I was looking
for.
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bummer.

re:
!it is cool that you can develop .net apps without having to buy VS but my exitement is gone
!after downloading, installing, and seeing no support for intellisense when creating/editing WSH files.
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Why would you think that a web development tool would have support for WSH files ?
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!Thats what I was looking for
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That's what you were *mistakenly* looking for.
Web development has nothing to do with WSH.

Juan T. Llibre wrote:>
VWD is a web development tool, but the rest of the editions are not web centric.
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And I do not recall him saying that is was VWD. And the VB.NET
seems a lot more likely.
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Arne

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!I do not recall him saying that is was VWD.
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I misunderstood him to be referring to web apps.
He was actually talking about developing .net apps.
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Sorry about the misunderstanding.
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James wrote:>>
VBS is reasonable close to VB6.
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But it has very little to do with VB.NET, so it should
not come as s surprise that the VBS support in a VB.NET IDE
is very limited.
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Arne
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ya, you are right. Hey MS, how about adding an 'Automation and Scripting'
Express edition? Just colorcode syntax, provide collapsable regions, line
numbers, and intellisense. That would be awesome.

ya, you are right. Hey MS, how about adding an 'Automation and Scripting' Express edition? Just colorcode syntax,
provide collapsable regions, line numbers, and intellisense. That would be awesome.
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Express edition? Just colorcode syntax, provide collapsable regions, line
numbers, and intellisense. That would be awesome.