Renaming a file in linux automatically refreshes the folder (and its new order)

I'm not sure about other people, but I find it a bit irritating that it happens this way, as in many cases I like to move to other icons (and I know their original position) and it's easier if it does not just refresh automatically. So is there any way to disable this? Or are other Linux distributions like that? (I use an old one: FC4)

re: Renaming a file in linux automatically refreshes the folder (and its new order)

As far as I know, this is a setting in your file manager. If you use KDE, that would normally be Konqueror, in GNOME you'd probably be using Nautilus. I don't know how to change the settings exactly, but I'm sure if you tell us which one you're using, we can find out.

And yes, automatic updating is quite common with Linux distributions (and other OSes), as far as I know.

Greetings,
Nepomuk

re: Renaming a file in linux automatically refreshes the folder (and its new order)

Thanks for the quick reply.
I'm using GNOME, and it's Nautilus. I actually did not mean automatic updating in general, but just after renaming. I think in my Windows boot, when updating the folder (in a kind of smart way), although you set it to arrange by type (or something else), this will happen when you manually refresh, or when you have just entered the folder. So new files/folders created (even using the file browser itself) will go at the back, while renamed files/folders will stay where they are, thus everything originally there will not change position, and the new stuff can be easily seen at the back.

re: Renaming a file in linux automatically refreshes the folder (and its new order)

Although it's in an Ubuntu Forum, I think this thread might help you.

Greetings,
Nepomuk

re: Renaming a file in linux automatically refreshes the folder (and its new order)

Thanks, I do know about the manual ordering, but what I like would be that there is an default arrangement setting (like arrange by type) which would take effect when you manually refresh (or when you just enter -- not at the moment very important), not immediately after you rename.

Yeah I know this must be quite difficult to answer (couldn't get anything from google), but I just wanted to know if there was really something that could change this behavior or if this is standard (and unmodifiable) behavior for all linux distributions. I know linux is better than Windows in stability, etc., but it's because of these nice features in Windows that I still prefer it. It would be good if linux would implement this in the future. In terms of user interface, linux is now quite comparable to Windows. They actually implemented many good features of the Windows GUI -- like the top right pixel for close, the task bar, maximizing windows, etc. -- which Mac OS X just doesn't (or doesn't want to) have.

P.S.: another thing... for me, I find installations quite slow on linux, and not very fail-safe... I couldn't get Allegro (library) to compile... or ACE (text editor) to run... On an after thought, maybe it's just because FC4 is old...

re: Renaming a file in linux automatically refreshes the folder (and its new order)

Hm, difficult. I must admit, I can't think of anything else to try right now, don't use Gnome (my choice is Xfce) or Fedora (instead Xubuntu and Debian) myself. I'll see if I can get hold of a Gnome installation to check this out.

About installing - as Fedora is part of the RedHat project, a lot of installations should be done with rpm's, right? So, no need for compiling. Of course, if the packages aren't available for your system... And it may be because FC4 is pretty old (or should I say: because you probably have old libraries installed). You may want to update to Fedora 10, if possible.

Greetings,
Nepomuk