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#1: Jun 1 '07
I am attempting to reinstall from a windows gone bad problem.
XP had "died" and unable boot into os, so there was no backup or copy database made.

Have installed new hdd. copied most all of the old hdd to a "backup" folder on new hdd. I know of the program files ms sql data subdir.
System state.
XP professional , not sharing on network, so is like standalone pc.
sql is 8.0 ( the downloaded version that was part of the installation of a precreated data base.)
XP is now sp2 I do not think it was prior.
I copied the contents of the old data folder to the new folder, overwriting the install created db files.
error given when running data base is
This program cannot connect to your database file, cuttingedge_xpo.
Please make sure that your database is started and start Program again.

I contacted the “support” people of the db and they said a sql db cannot be moved / recovered except by back up and restore, which is impossible in this case.
I cannot believe a db product is “unrecoverable” from this.
Did I miss any other sql files like configs or is this just not possible.
I do not want to retype a lot.

Can any one help me fix this.
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#2: Jun 1 '07

re: problem connecting to sql database


I am attempting to reinstall from a windows gone bad problem.
XP had "died" and unable boot into os, so there was no backup or copy database made.

Have installed new hdd. copied most all of the old hdd to a "backup" folder on new hdd. I know of the program files ms sql data subdir.
System state.
XP professional , not sharing on network, so is like standalone pc.
sql is 8.0 ( the downloaded version that was part of the installation of a precreated data base.)
XP is now sp2 I do not think it was prior.
I copied the contents of the old data folder to the new folder, overwriting the install created db files.
error given when running data base is
This program cannot connect to your database file, cuttingedge_xpo.
Please make sure that your database is started and start Program again.

I contacted the “support” people of the db and they said a sql db cannot be moved / recovered except by back up and restore, which is impossible in this case.
I cannot believe a db product is “unrecoverable” from this.
Did I miss any other sql files like configs or is this just not possible.
I do not want to retype a lot.

There is a program in one of the sub dirs that I think may fix it, but I am not familiar with sql.


irectory of C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\MSSQL\BINN

04/17/2001 11:22 PM 21,056 cmdwrap.exe
12/17/2002 05:23 PM 311,872 sqlagent.EXE
12/17/2002 05:23 PM 156,224 sqlmaint.exe
12/17/2002 05:26 PM 7,520,337 sqlservr.exe
4 File(s) 8,009,489 bytes
0 Dir(s) 399,421,976,576 bytes free

C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\MSSQL\BINN>sqlmaint /p

Microsoft (R) SQLMaint Utility (Unicode), Version 8.00.760
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1995 - 1998

USAGE: [-?] | [-S <Server Name>]
[-U <Login ID> [-P <Password>]]
l reports older than given
time period
C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\MSSQL\BINN>sqlmaint -rebldidx

Microsoft (R) SQLMaint Utility (Unicode), Version 8.00.760
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation, 1995 - 1998

USAGE: [-?] | [-S <Server Name>]
[-U <Login ID> [-P <Password>]]
-D <Database Name>
[-Rpt <Output File>]
[-To <Operator Name>]
[-CkDB | -CkDBNoIdx]
[-CkAl | -CkAlNoIdx]
[-CkTxtAl]
[-CkCat]
[-UpdSts]
[-RebldIdx <% Free Space>]
[-BkUpDB <Backup Path> | -BkUpLog <Backup Path>]
[-BkUpOnlyIfClean]
[-BkUpMedia DISK [-DelBkUps <time period>] | TAPE]
[-UpdOptiStats <% of Database to Sample>]
[-HtmlRpt <Html File>]
[-VrfyBackup]
[-RmUnusedSpace <Minimum DB in MB> <% of free space to leave>]
[-PlanID <GUID identifying the maintenance plan in 36 character
hex format>]
[-PlanName <Maintenance plan name>]
[-CrBkSubDir] Create a sub-directory (for storing backup files)
for the database(s).
[-UseDefDir] Use the default backup directory.
[-WriteHistory] Write history to msdb.dbo.sysdbmaintplan_history
.
[-DelTxtRpt <time period>] Delete text reports older than given
time period
[-DelHtmlRpt <time period>] Delete html reports older than given
time period

Can any one help me fix this.
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#3: Jun 1 '07

re: problem connecting to sql database


Is the SQL Server service running? Can you connect from the machine the database is on? Is the windows firewall enabled?
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#4: Jun 2 '07

re: problem connecting to sql database


There is no source machine, just the contents of the hdd put in a folder on the new hard drive.
The origional hdd is non bootable, will never again be bootable.
The sql service is running.
I am not sure about the other two questions I do not think they apply in this instance since this is the working machine.
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#5: Jun 2 '07

re: problem connecting to sql database


Quote:

Originally Posted by Joe Adams

There is no source machine, just the contents of the hdd put in a folder on the new hard drive.
The origional hdd is non bootable, will never again be bootable.
The sql service is running.
I am not sure about the other two questions I do not think they apply in this instance since this is the working machine.

They do apply, as these are two things that may be indicators as to why you are unable to access the SQL Server.
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#6: Jun 2 '07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Motoma

They do apply, as these are two things that may be indicators as to why you are unable to access the SQL Server.

I need clarifition on the question
Can you connect from the machine the database is on?
I do not under stand the question pertaining to a standalone machine with the data on the same machine. The origional hdd that had the os and data is not functioning, so I cannot boot the of on that hdd. that is why the contents og the hdd was copied to a subdir on the new hdd.

The data is NOT accessed across a network. Just on the one pc.


Is the windows firewall enabled?
It is gneerally on, but I did try to access the data with it off, but got the exact same result.
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#7: Jun 4 '07

re: problem connecting to sql database


I am sorry, I originally misread your problem.

This seems like a very tough situation you are in; you have already done most of the things I would have suggested trying.

My only idea is to set up the directory structures to exactly match how they were on your original machine: SQL Server stores information about the database storage directories, and I would not be surprised if this caused a problem. I would then recreate the databases in the new server. Take the server off line (fully shut it down) and then drop the backed up files into the data directory again. You will likely have to do the master DB as well, in fact, it is probably best to do the entire Data directory.

Other than this, I have no clue what else you could try. If you get things figured out, please post back what the solution was, I am sure this would be an extremely handy thing to know.

Good luck,
Motoma
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