Is there a "Visual Basic for Mac"?  | Needs Regular Fix | | Join Date: Dec 2006
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hi all
i am not much of an application programmer but i somehow got a contract to build a fairly substantial database application for a nonprofit that runs entirely on Macs. i could have a VB application pumped out in about two weeks for this but everything is macs, so i installed MAMP (an apache, mysql, PHP install) on their server and have been using php but this is not really what php is made for. i was wondering if there was a simple easy (VB like) way of programing for Macs, i know very little Java, or Python and i don't even know if they would be what i need. but if anyone knows a good way of making a python program with lots of forms or another language that would work i would love the help
thanks
eric
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Originally Posted by tolkienarda hi all
i am not much of an application programmer but i somehow got a contract to build a fairly substantial database application for a nonprofit that runs entirely on Macs. i could have a VB application pumped out in about two weeks for this but everything is macs, so i installed MAMP (an apache, mysql, PHP install) on their server and have been using php but this is not really what php is made for. i was wondering if there was a simple easy (VB like) way of programing for Macs, i know very little Java, or Python and i don't even know if they would be what i need. but if anyone knows a good way of making a python program with lots of forms or another language that would work i would love the help
thanks
eric I don't know of a "VB like way" as I really don't know VB, but I know that Perl has its DBI module specifically for interacting with databases. I know other languages also have interfaces for databases, but having a lot of experience with Perl (and moderating over there), I tend to favor it highly.
If you started working on something and had any questions, simply post to the Perl forum and we can help whenever you get stuck.
I recommend it also because it also works on Macs.
Regards,
Jeff
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Heya, Eric.
Erm.... PHP's been fantastic for database app development in my experience :)
Unless you're talking about building a platform app (what with the compiling and the linker errors and so forth).
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If you are talking of VB 6.0 then that is for windows only.
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A Mac using friend of mine has pointed the finger at RealBasic (and RealSQL Server) but you would need to splash some cash on them.
If you have access to the OS-X install disks then they come with development tools for a variety of languages (none of them basic though) and there is always Eclipse giving C++, Java etc.
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Well, I agree with pbmods. What's wrong with using PHP for this since that's what you know, and that's what you have and there is no Visual Basic on Macs.
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no sure if mono runs on mac???? !!!!
could be an option..
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Thanks for all of your responses
i think i realize why this has been such a strugle for me. My skill with php is ok but my knowledge of sql logic is terrible, in the past i have used independent tables, i never needed relational tables, and now i have stepped back and broken up most of completely redesigned my database. and while this means that i have to pretty much rebuild my program i think it will go much faster than what i have been doing before.
thanks
eric
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You could use Flex2, PHP and XML if you want a simple interface and good functionality, but I think also, that only PHP is ok.
The good thing about Flex2 is that you don't have to worry about the interface and just concentrate in the programming and logic.
Then you can use Zinc or some other swf2exe app, to make an executable.
I reccomend you zinc, because it can make executables for mac.
Best regards,
The_Nephilim Quote:
Originally Posted by tolkienarda Thanks for all of your responses
i think i realize why this has been such a strugle for me. My skill with php is ok but my knowledge of sql logic is terrible, in the past i have used independent tables, i never needed relational tables, and now i have stepped back and broken up most of completely redesigned my database. and while this means that i have to pretty much rebuild my program i think it will go much faster than what i have been doing before.
thanks
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Originally Posted by tolkienarda Thanks for all of your responses
i think i realize why this has been such a strugle for me. My skill with php is ok but my knowledge of sql logic is terrible, in the past i have used independent tables, i never needed relational tables, and now i have stepped back and broken up most of completely redesigned my database. and while this means that i have to pretty much rebuild my program i think it will go much faster than what i have been doing before.
thanks
eric Hi Eric
If you need any further assistance with this check out this article ... Database Normalisation and Table Structures
Mary
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Not VB compatible but not to different either: Gambas.
I don't know if it works on OS/X, though.
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Originally Posted by salva Not VB compatible but not to different either: Gambas.
I don't know if it works on OS/X, though. From the Gambas FAQ:
Gambas should compile. Anyway, it will crash because of bugs in endianness management. I need an ssh access to a PowerPC computer to fix that!
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Originally Posted by pbmods From the Gambas FAQ:
Gambas should compile. Anyway, it will crash because of bugs in endianness management. I need an ssh access to a PowerPC computer to fix that! does it work on the new x86 based Macs, then?
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though theres no VB for mac but you can try Real Basic. They have similar commands however, Real Basic can run on Windows, Linux and Macs
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I thought that *the* development language for this thing is Objective C and the 'Next Step' framework (there's also Gnu Step for other machines).
kind regards,
Jos
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