Tkinter / Mac OS X Question (Aqua vs. X11)

I am running Mac OS X. I have Tcl/Tk installed. I can run the Aqua
version (TkAqua) of wish by typing 'wish' at a terminal prompt. I can
run the X11 version (TkX11) of wish by typing 'wish8.4-X11' in an
x-term. If I run python and import Tkinter it always grabs the TkAqua
version. How can I get Tkinter to load the TkX11 version?

I want to be able to switch back and forth between the two at will.

Thanks
David

re: Tkinter / Mac OS X Question (Aqua vs. X11)

dmsbox2000-list1@yahoo.com schrieb:[color=blue]
> I am running Mac OS X. I have Tcl/Tk installed. I can run the Aqua
> version (TkAqua) of wish by typing 'wish' at a terminal prompt. I can
> run the X11 version (TkX11) of wish by typing 'wish8.4-X11' in an
> x-term. If I run python and import Tkinter it always grabs the TkAqua
> version. How can I get Tkinter to load the TkX11 version?
>
> I want to be able to switch back and forth between the two at will.[/color]

Install python using fink, and invoke that. Should work against X11 for
all GUI-Toolkits.

Diez

re: Tkinter / Mac OS X Question (Aqua vs. X11)

> Install python using fink, and invoke that. Should work against X11 for[color=blue]
> all GUI-Toolkits.[/color]

I prefer not to do this. Darwin is already a Unix, and Apple provides
a version of X11 that works well with it. Fink seems like an
unecessary layer that I would rather not mess with. Tcl/Tk has a very
simple way to select. It would be nice if Python did something similar
(command line option, an environment variable, whatever). I looked for
an option in the build process, and from what I can tell, the OS X
version looks like it only builds a single version (TkAqua).

TkAqua and TkX11 do differ, and it would be nice to see the same script
run under both Aqua and X11 without having to switch machines.

re: Tkinter / Mac OS X Question (Aqua vs. X11)

dmsbox2000-list1@yahoo.com schrieb:[color=blue][color=green]
>> Install python using fink, and invoke that. Should work against X11 for
>> all GUI-Toolkits.[/color]
>
> I prefer not to do this. Darwin is already a Unix, and Apple provides
> a version of X11 that works well with it.
> Fink seems like an
> unecessary layer that I would rather not mess with. Tcl/Tk has a very
> simple way to select. It would be nice if Python did something similar
> (command line option, an environment variable, whatever).[/color]

Fink works precisely _because_ OS X is a unix & has a X11 server. It is
no "layer", it is just precompiled package management for unix-software
running under OS X.
[color=blue]
> I looked for
> an option in the build process, and from what I can tell, the OS X
> version looks like it only builds a single version (TkAqua).
> TkAqua and TkX11 do differ, and it would be nice to see the same script
> run under both Aqua and X11 without having to switch machines.[/color]

You might be able to tamper with the build process - but I have no idea
how to do so.

Diez

re: Tkinter / Mac OS X Question (Aqua vs. X11)

dmsbox2000-list1@yahoo.com wrote:[color=blue]
> I am running Mac OS X. I have Tcl/Tk installed. I can run the Aqua
> version (TkAqua) of wish by typing 'wish' at a terminal prompt. I can
> run the X11 version (TkX11) of wish by typing 'wish8.4-X11' in an
> x-term. If I run python and import Tkinter it always grabs the TkAqua
> version. How can I get Tkinter to load the TkX11 version?
>
> I want to be able to switch back and forth between the two at will.
>
> Thanks
> David
>[/color]

I don't think the version of Python that ships with OS X by default is
compatible with the X11 environment. For one thing, it is built with the
"-framework" flag, which is how OS X packages libraries--this works
differently than on other *Nix environments. The Aqua version of Tcl/Tk
is also a framework build, and it's not compatible with the X11 version.
(The "wish8.4-x11" command is just a wrapper script that invokes a
completely different wish binary, linked against an entirely different
set of libraries.)

The advice to install Python and Tcl/Tk via Fink (or DarwinPorts) then
run your script against that is the right advice. It's a much cleaner
way to go.

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