nesting JS in echo's

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hi folks,

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html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
aaaaaa!

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i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i converted from
html to php.
the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to stop the
repeating of an embedded video file on a per session basis;
i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session cookie value
was nil.

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worked fine.

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thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random rotatorscript
into the echo command, but the problem was the syntax of the single quotes
and double quotes needed in the doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.

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i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes), but to no
avail.

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here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. *"picnumber" isthe
variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the picture.

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any help much appreciated..

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{ echo "

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* *<script language='JavaScript1.2'>
* * * * <!-- begin
* * document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");
* *// end *-->
</script>
* *"; }

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hi folks,

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html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
aaaaaa!

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i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
converted from
html to php.
the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to stop
the
repeating of an embedded video file on a per session basis;
i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session cookie
value
was nil.

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worked fine.

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thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random rotator
script
into the echo command, but the problem was the syntax of the single
quotes
and double quotes needed in the doc.write and variable sequences in
the JS.

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i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes), but
to no
avail.

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here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is the
variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the
picture.

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any help much appreciated..

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++++++++++++++++

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{ echo "

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<script language='JavaScript1.2'>
<!-- begin
document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");
// end -->
</script>
"; }

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++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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thanks

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hi folks,

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html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
aaaaaa!

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i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i converted
from html to php.
the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to stop the
repeating of an embedded video file on a per session basis;
i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session cookie value
was nil.

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worked fine.

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thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random rotator
script into the echo command, but the problem was the syntax of the
single quotes and double quotes needed in the doc.write and variable
sequences in the JS.

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i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes), but to
no avail.

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here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. *"picnumber" is the
variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the picture..

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any help much appreciated..

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++++++++++++++++

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{ echo "

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* *<script language='JavaScript1.2'>
* * * * <!-- begin
* * document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");
* *// end *-->
</script>
* *"; }

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>>hi folks,
>>>
>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>aaaaaa!
>>>
>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i converted
>>from html to php.
>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to stop the
>>repeating of an embedded video file on a per session basis;
>>i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session cookie value
>>was nil.
>>>
>>worked fine.
>>>
>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random rotator
>>script into the echo command, but the problem was the syntax of the
>>single quotes and double quotes needed in the doc.write and variable
>>sequences in the JS.
>>>
>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes), but to
>>no avail.
>>>
>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is the
>>variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the picture.
>>>
>>any help much appreciated..
>>>
>>>
>>++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>{ echo "
>>>
>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>> <!-- begin
>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");
>> // end -->
>></script>
>> "; }
>>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>thanks

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>>hi folks,
>>>
>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>aaaaaa!
>>>
>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i converted
>>from html to php.
>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to stop the
>>repeating of an embedded video file on a per session basis;
>>i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session cookie value
>>was nil.
>>>
>>worked fine.
>>>
>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random rotator
>>script into the echo command, but the problem was the syntax of the
>>single quotes and double quotes needed in the doc.write and variable
>>sequences in the JS.
>>>
>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes), but to
>>no avail.
>>>
>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is the
>>variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the picture.
>>>
>>any help much appreciated..
>>>
>>>
>>++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>{ echo "
>>>
>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>> <!-- begin
>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");
>> // end -->
>></script>
>> "; }
>>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>thanks

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>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>hi folks,
>>>>
>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>
>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>converted from html to php.
>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session
>>>cookie value was nil.
>>>>
>>>worked fine.
>>>>
>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>
>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes),
>>>but to no avail.
>>>>
>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is
>>>the variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the
>>>picture.
>>>>
>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>{ echo "
>>>>
>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>> <!-- begin
>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>> // end -->
>>></script>
>>> "; }
>>>>
>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>
>>>thanks
>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...

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hi folks,
>
html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
aaaaaa!
>
i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i converted
from html to php.
the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to stop the
repeating of an embedded video file on a per session basis;
i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session cookie value
was nil.
>
worked fine.
>
thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random rotator
script into the echo command, but the problem was the syntax of the
single quotes and double quotes needed in the doc.write and variable
sequences in the JS.
>
i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes), but to
no avail.
>
here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is the
variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the picture.
>
any help much appreciated..
>
>
++++++++++++++++
>
{ echo "
>
<script language='JavaScript1.2'>
<!-- begin
document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");
// end -->
</script>
"; }
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
thanks

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document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");

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>>hi folks,
>>>
>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>aaaaaa!
>>>
>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i converted
>>from html to php.
>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to stop the
>>repeating of an embedded video file on a per session basis;
>>i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session cookie value
>>was nil.
>>>
>>worked fine.
>>>
>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random rotator
>>script into the echo command, but the problem was the syntax of the
>>single quotes and double quotes needed in the doc.write and variable
>>sequences in the JS.
>>>
>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes), but to
>>no avail.
>>>
>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is the
>>variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the picture.
>>>
>>any help much appreciated..
>>>
>>>
>>++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>{ echo "
>>>
>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>> <!-- begin
>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");
>> // end -->
>></script>
>> "; }
>>>
>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>
>>thanks

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Request-1 wrote:
>hi folks,

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>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>aaaaaa!

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>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i converted
>from html to php.
>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to stop the
>repeating of an embedded video file on a per session basis;
>i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session cookie value
>was nil.

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>worked fine.

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>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random rotator
>script into the echo command, but the problem was the syntax of the
>single quotes and double quotes needed in the doc.write and variable
>sequences in the JS.

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>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes), but to
>no avail.

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>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. *"picnumber" isthe
>variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the picture.

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>any help much appreciated..

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>++++++++++++++++

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>{ echo "

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>* *<script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>* * * * <!-- begin
>* * document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber + '.jpg'>\");
>* *// end *-->
></script>
>* *"; }

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>++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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>thanks
You have an extra single quote before <img ...

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>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>
>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session
>>>>cookie value was nil.
>>>>>
>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>
>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>
>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes),
>>>>but to no avail.
>>>>>
>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is
>>>>the variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the
>>>>picture.
>>>>>
>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>
>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>> <!-- begin
>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>> // end -->
>>>></script>
>>>> "; }
>>>>>
>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>
>>>>thanks
>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>
>>>
>>Hi Jerry,
>>>
>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called "concatenating"
>>or something?). so the <img src...statement was broken down into 3
>>seperate stings to be re-joined - all within the double-quote nested
>>doc.write stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete the image
>>path, like so,
>>>
>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>> +'.jpg\"
>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>Image\">');\n";
>> echo "// end -->\n";
>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>
>>>
>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>
>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday night on
>>Javascript? Bad!
>>>
>>>

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Request-1 wrote:
>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>hi folks,

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>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>aaaaaa!

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>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>converted from html to php.
>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session
>>>cookie value was nil.

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>>>worked fine.

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>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.

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>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes),
>>>but to no avail.

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>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. *"picnumber" is
>>>the variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the
>>>picture.

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>>>any help much appreciated..

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>>>++++++++++++++++

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>>>{ echo "

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>>>* *<script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>* * * * <!-- begin
>>>* * document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>* * '.jpg'>\");
>>>* *// end *-->
>>></script>
>>>* *"; }

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>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++

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>>>thanks
>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...

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>Hi Jerry,

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>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>document.write to add strings in series (is it called "concatenating"
>or something?). *so the <img src...statement was broken down into3
>seperate stings to be re-joined - all within the double-quote nested
>doc.write stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete the image
>path, like so,

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>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>* * * echo "<!-- begin \n";
>* *echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>* *+'.jpg\"
>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>Image\">');\n";
>* *echo "// end *-->\n";
>* *echo "</script>"; }

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>but no avail. *still no pic shows up.

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>anyway. * i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>single-double quotes. *i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>suggested. *I'll need a couple of beers first. * Friday night on
>Javascript? *Bad!

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BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
height and border. *Only non-numeric data.

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>>Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org. ..
>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session
>>>>>>cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes),
>>>>>>but to no avail.
>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is
>>>>>>the variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the
>>>>>>picture.
>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>></script>
>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called "concatenating"
>>>>or something?). so the <img src...statement was broken down into 3
>>>>seperate stings to be re-joined - all within the double-quote nested
>>>>doc.write stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>>>>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete the image
>>>>path, like so,
>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>>>Image\">');\n";
>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>>>suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday night on
>>>>Javascript? Bad!
>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
>>>height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must be on all
>>element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute value type.

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>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org.. .
>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>
>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>
>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session
>>>>>cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>
>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>
>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>
>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes),
>>>>>but to no avail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is
>>>>>the variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the
>>>>>picture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>
>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>> // end -->
>>>>></script>
>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>
>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>
>>>>>thanks
>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>
>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called "concatenating"
>>>or something?). so the <img src...statement was broken down into 3
>>>seperate stings to be re-joined - all within the double-quote nested
>>>doc.write stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>>>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete the image
>>>path, like so,
>>>>
>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>>Image\">');\n";
>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>
>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>>suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday night on
>>>Javascript? Bad!
>>>>
>>>>
>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
>>height and border. Only non-numeric data.

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>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>
>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org. ..
>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the
>>>>>>session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes),
>>>>>>but to no avail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber"
>>>>>>is the variable holding the randomly assigned number that
>>>>>>chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>></script>
>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>
>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...statement was
>>>>broken down into 3 seperate stings to be re-joined - all within
>>>>the double-quote nested doc.write stmt. my mistake was to leave
>>>>the image path in single quotes; instead I tried "escaped double
>>>>quotes" to complete the image path, like so,
>>>>>
>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>>>Image\">');\n";
>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>
>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>>>suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday night on
>>>>Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
>>>height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>
>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must be on
>>all element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute value
>>type.
>>>
>>>

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>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>
>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org. ..
>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the session
>>>>>>cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double quotes),
>>>>>>but to no avail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP. "picnumber" is
>>>>>>the variable holding the randomly assigned number that chooses the
>>>>>>picture.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>></script>
>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>
>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>
>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called "concatenating"
>>>>or something?). so the <img src...statement was broken down into 3
>>>>seperate stings to be re-joined - all within the double-quote nested
>>>>doc.write stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>>>>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete the image
>>>>path, like so,
>>>>>
>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>>>Image\">');\n";
>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>
>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>>>suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday night on
>>>>Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
>>>height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must be on all
>>element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute value type.
>>>
>>>

Quote:

Quote:

>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>
>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org.. .
>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the
>>>>>>>session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>
>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...statement
>>>>>was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be re-joined - all
>>>>>within the double-quote nested doc.write stmt. my mistake was to
>>>>>leave the image path in single quotes; instead I tried "escaped
>>>>>double quotes" to complete the image path, like so,
>>>>>>
>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>>>>Image\">');\n";
>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>>>>suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday night on
>>>>>Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
>>>>height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must be on
>>>all element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute value
>>>type.
>>>>
>>>>
>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well supported
>>by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.

Quote:

>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.

Quote:

Quote:

>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>
>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>
>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org. ..
>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the
>>>>>>>>session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...statement
>>>>>>was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be re-joined - all
>>>>>>within the double-quote nested doc.write stmt. my mistake was to
>>>>>>leave the image path in single quotes; instead I tried "escaped
>>>>>>double quotes" to complete the image path, like so,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>>>>>Image\">');\n";
>>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>>>>>suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday night on
>>>>>>Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
>>>>>height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must be on
>>>>all element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute value
>>>>type.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well supported
>>>by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages.
>>>
>>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. The web document was
>>written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations" modestly
>>instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. Go figure.
>>>

>>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet Explorer,
>>such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around problems with
>>showing XHTML in standards-violating, never-get-it-right HTTP clients
>>like Internet Explorer. This is not rocket science.
>>>
>>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>>numeric values. It does allow for their omission, but recommends
>>they always be used. There is no indication about whether this
>>recommendation applies to the various levels of HTML: strict,
>>transitional, frameset.
>>>
>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes
>>>

Quote:

>>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all attribute
>>values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in XHTML:
>>>
>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html
>>>
>>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Seni Seven wrote:
>Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:

Quote:

>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:

Quote:

>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org. ..
>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>hi folks,

Quote:

>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>aaaaaa!

Quote:

>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the
>>>>>>>session cookie value was nil.

Quote:

>>>>>>>worked fine.

Quote:

>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.

Quote:

>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.

Quote:

>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.

Quote:

>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..

Quote:

>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++

Quote:

>>>>>>>{ echo "

Quote:

>>>>>>>* *<script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>* * * * <!-- begin
>>>>>>>* * document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>>>* * '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>* *// end *-->
>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>* *"; }

Quote:

>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Quote:

>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>Hi Jerry,

Quote:

>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). *so the <img src...statement
>>>>>was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be re-joined - all
>>>>>within the double-quote nested doc.write stmt. my mistake was to
>>>>>leave the image path in single quotes; instead I tried "escaped
>>>>>double quotes" to complete the image path, like so,

Quote:

>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>* * * echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>* *echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>>>* *+'.jpg\"
>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>>>>Image\">');\n";
>>>>>* *echo "// end *-->\n";
>>>>>* *echo "</script>"; }

Quote:

>>>>>but no avail. *still no pic shows up.

Quote:

>>>>>anyway. * i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>>single-double quotes. *i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>>>>suggested. *I'll need a couple of beers first. * Friday nighton
>>>>>Javascript? *Bad!

Quote:

>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
>>>>height and border. *Only non-numeric data.
>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? *Quotes must be on
>>>all element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute value
>>>type.

Quote:

>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well supported
>>by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages. *

Quote:

>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. *The web document was
>written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations" modestly
>instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. *Go figure. *

Quote:

Sure, you CAN make pages which will cater to the different browsers
idiosyncrasies, but why? *Where is the need for xhtml?

Quote:

>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet Explorer,
>such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around problems with
>showing XHTML in standards-violating, never-get-it-right HTTP clients
>like Internet Explorer. *This is not rocket science.

Quote:

>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>numeric values. *It does allow for their omission, but recommends
>they always be used. *There is no indication about whether this
>recommendation applies to the various levels of HTML: *strict,
>transitional, frameset.

Quote:

>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes

Quote:

Which backs up my claim that HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric
attributes.

Quote:

Quote:

>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all attribute
>values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in XHTML:

Quote:

>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html

Quote:

>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.
So? *That's one person's opinion. *Worth no more or less than anyone
else's opinion.

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Search enough and you can find an opinion you agree with anywhere on
the internet.

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

>>Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.or g...
>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie to
>>>>>>>>>>stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per session
>>>>>>>>>>basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic if the
>>>>>>>>>>session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...statement
>>>>>>>>was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be re-joined - all
>>>>>>>>within the double-quote nested doc.write stmt. my mistake was to
>>>>>>>>leave the image path in single quotes; instead I tried "escaped
>>>>>>>>double quotes" to complete the image path, like so,
>>>>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>>>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness Training
>>>>>>>>Image\">');\n";
>>>>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that Thomas
>>>>>>>>suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday night on
>>>>>>>>Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your width,
>>>>>>>height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must be on
>>>>>>all element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute value
>>>>>>type.
>>>>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>>>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well supported
>>>>>by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>>>>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages.
>>>>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. The web document was
>>>>written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>>>>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations" modestly
>>>>instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. Go figure.
>>>Sure, you CAN make pages which will cater to the different browsers
>>>idiosyncrasies, but why? Where is the need for xhtml?
>>>>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>>>>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet Explorer,
>>>>such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around problems with
>>>>showing XHTML in standards-violating, never-get-it-right HTTP clients
>>>>like Internet Explorer. This is not rocket science.
>>>>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>>>>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>>>>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>>>>numeric values. It does allow for their omission, but recommends
>>>>they always be used. There is no indication about whether this
>>>>recommendation applies to the various levels of HTML: strict,
>>>>transitional, frameset.
>>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes
>>>Which backs up my claim that HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric
>>>attributes.
>>If you really want to split hairs, as you apparently want to do, the
>>loosest usage of HTML doesn't require quotes on any attribute values
>>except in the very few circumstances that your determined attempts to
>>confuse the browser do not achieve the rendering you desire.
>>>>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all attribute
>>>>values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in XHTML:
>>>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html
>>>>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>>>>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.
>>>So? That's one person's opinion. Worth no more or less than anyone
>>>else's opinion.
>>Actually, the HTML standards keepers RECOMMEND (though they don't REQUIRE)
>>you to quote attribute values----ALL OF THEM.
>>But then you have already established that you are a hair-splitter.
>>Perhaps you'd like to disparage the "opinions" of the HTML standards
>>keepers too?
>>>Search enough and you can find an opinion you agree with anywhere on
>>>the internet.
>>Precisely right!
>>But then I am not so desperate to support my claims on the sole "opinion"
>>of one kook with a web page against the 99,999 opinions of people who
>>impress me with reason and logic and a certain level of erudition, some of
>>whom actually sit on standards-setting committees like the one that
>>promulgates the HTML specification.
>>Oh my!
>>A new word of the day:
>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus

Quote:

>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>
>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.org ...
>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie
>>>>>>>>>to stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per
>>>>>>>>>session basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic
>>>>>>>>>if the session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...statement
>>>>>>>was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be re-joined - all
>>>>>>>within the double-quote nested doc.write stmt. my mistake was
>>>>>>>to leave the image path in single quotes; instead I tried
>>>>>>>"escaped double quotes" to complete the image path, like so,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness
>>>>>>>Training Image\">');\n";
>>>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that
>>>>>>>Thomas suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday
>>>>>>>night on Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your
>>>>>>width, height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must be
>>>>>on all element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute
>>>>>value type.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well supported
>>>>by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>>>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages.
>>>>
>>>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. The web document was
>>>written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>>>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations" modestly
>>>instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. Go figure.
>>>>
>>Sure, you CAN make pages which will cater to the different browsers
>>idiosyncrasies, but why? Where is the need for xhtml?
>>>
>>>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>>>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet
>>>Explorer, such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around
>>>problems with showing XHTML in standards-violating,
>>>never-get-it-right HTTP clients like Internet Explorer. This is
>>>not rocket science.
>>>>
>>>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>>>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>>>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>>>numeric values. It does allow for their omission, but recommends
>>>they always be used. There is no indication about whether this
>>>recommendation applies to the various levels of HTML: strict,
>>>transitional, frameset.
>>>>
>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes
>>>>
>>Which backs up my claim that HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric
>>attributes.

>>>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all attribute
>>>values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in XHTML:
>>>>
>>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html
>>>>
>>>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>>>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.
>>So? That's one person's opinion. Worth no more or less than anyone
>>else's opinion.

>>Search enough and you can find an opinion you agree with anywhere on
>>the internet.

Quote:

>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>
>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>
>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.or g...
>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page i
>>>>>>>>>>converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session cookie
>>>>>>>>>>to stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a per
>>>>>>>>>>session basis; i amended the php code to display a still pic
>>>>>>>>>>if the session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image random
>>>>>>>>>>rotator script into the echo command, but the problem was the
>>>>>>>>>>syntax of the single quotes and double quotes needed in the
>>>>>>>>>>doc.write and variable sequences in the JS.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're using
>>>>>>>>document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...statement
>>>>>>>>was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be re-joined - all
>>>>>>>>within the double-quote nested doc.write stmt. my mistake was
>>>>>>>>to leave the image path in single quotes; instead I tried
>>>>>>>>"escaped double quotes" to complete the image path, like so,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>>>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness
>>>>>>>>Training Image\">');\n";
>>>>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that
>>>>>>>>Thomas suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first. Friday
>>>>>>>>night on Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your
>>>>>>>width, height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must be
>>>>>>on all element attributes in that case, regardless of attribute
>>>>>>value type.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>>>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well supported
>>>>>by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>>>>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages.
>>>>>
>>>>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. The web document was
>>>>written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>>>>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations" modestly
>>>>instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. Go figure.
>>>>>
>>>Sure, you CAN make pages which will cater to the different browsers
>>>idiosyncrasies, but why? Where is the need for xhtml?
>>>>
>>>>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>>>>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet
>>>>Explorer, such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around
>>>>problems with showing XHTML in standards-violating,
>>>>never-get-it-right HTTP clients like Internet Explorer. This is
>>>>not rocket science.
>>>>>
>>>>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>>>>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>>>>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>>>>numeric values. It does allow for their omission, but recommends
>>>>they always be used. There is no indication about whether this
>>>>recommendation applies to the various levels of HTML: strict,
>>>>transitional, frameset.
>>>>>
>>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes
>>>>>
>>>Which backs up my claim that HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric
>>>attributes.
>>If you really want to split hairs, as you apparently want to do, the
>>loosest usage of HTML doesn't require quotes on any attribute values
>>except in the very few circumstances that your determined attempts to
>>confuse the browser do not achieve the rendering you desire.
>>>
>>>>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all attribute
>>>>values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in XHTML:
>>>>>
>>>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html
>>>>>
>>>>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>>>>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.
>>>So? That's one person's opinion. Worth no more or less than anyone
>>>else's opinion.
>>Actually, the HTML standards keepers RECOMMEND (though they don't
>>REQUIRE) you to quote attribute values----ALL OF THEM.
>>>
>>But then you have already established that you are a hair-splitter.
>>>
>>Perhaps you'd like to disparage the "opinions" of the HTML standards
>>keepers too?
>>>
>>>Search enough and you can find an opinion you agree with anywhere on
>>>the internet.
>>Precisely right!
>>>
>>But then I am not so desperate to support my claims on the sole
>>"opinion" of one kook with a web page against the 99,999 opinions of
>>people who impress me with reason and logic and a certain level of
>>erudition, some of whom actually sit on standards-setting committees
>>like the one that promulgates the HTML specification.
>>>
>>Oh my!
>>>
>>A new word of the day:
>>>
>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus

Quote:

>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>
>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella.o rg...
>>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page
>>>>>>>>>>>i converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session
>>>>>>>>>>>cookie to stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a
>>>>>>>>>>>per session basis; i amended the php code to display a
>>>>>>>>>>>still pic if the session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image
>>>>>>>>>>>random rotator script into the echo command, but the
>>>>>>>>>>>problem was the syntax of the single quotes and double
>>>>>>>>>>>quotes needed in the doc.write and variable sequences in
>>>>>>>>>>>the JS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're
>>>>>>>>>using document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...>
>>>>>>>>>statement was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be
>>>>>>>>>re-joined - all within the double-quote nested doc.write
>>>>>>>>>stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>>>>>>>>>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete
>>>>>>>>>the image path, like so,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>>>>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness
>>>>>>>>>Training Image\">');\n";
>>>>>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>>>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that
>>>>>>>>>Thomas suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first.
>>>>>>>>>Friday night on Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your
>>>>>>>>width, height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>>>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must
>>>>>>>be on all element attributes in that case, regardless of
>>>>>>>attribute value type.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>>>>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well
>>>>>>supported by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>>>>>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages.
>>>>>>
>>>>>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. The web document
>>>>>was written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>>>>>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations" modestly
>>>>>instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. Go figure.
>>>>>>
>>>>Sure, you CAN make pages which will cater to the different
>>>>browsers idiosyncrasies, but why? Where is the need for xhtml?
>>>>>
>>>>>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>>>>>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet
>>>>>Explorer, such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around
>>>>>problems with showing XHTML in standards-violating,
>>>>>never-get-it-right HTTP clients like Internet Explorer. This is
>>>>>not rocket science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>>>>>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>>>>>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>>>>>numeric values. It does allow for their omission, but recommends
>>>>>they always be used. There is no indication about whether this
>>>>>recommendation applies to the various levels of HTML: strict,
>>>>>transitional, frameset.
>>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes
>>>>>>
>>>>Which backs up my claim that HTML does NOT require quotes on
>>>>numeric attributes.
>>>If you really want to split hairs, as you apparently want to do,
>>>the loosest usage of HTML doesn't require quotes on any attribute
>>>values except in the very few circumstances that your determined
>>>attempts to confuse the browser do not achieve the rendering you
>>>desire.
>>>>
>>>>>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all
>>>>>attribute values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in
>>>>>XHTML:
>>>>>>
>>>>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>>>>>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.
>>>>So? That's one person's opinion. Worth no more or less than
>>>>anyone else's opinion.
>>>Actually, the HTML standards keepers RECOMMEND (though they don't
>>>REQUIRE) you to quote attribute values----ALL OF THEM.
>>>>
>>>But then you have already established that you are a hair-splitter.
>>>>
>>>Perhaps you'd like to disparage the "opinions" of the HTML
>>>standards keepers too?
>>>>
>>>>Search enough and you can find an opinion you agree with anywhere
>>>>on the internet.
>>>Precisely right!
>>>>
>>>But then I am not so desperate to support my claims on the sole
>>>"opinion" of one kook with a web page against the 99,999 opinions
>>>of people who impress me with reason and logic and a certain level
>>>of erudition, some of whom actually sit on standards-setting
>>>committees like the one that promulgates the HTML specification.
>>>>
>>>Oh my!
>>>>
>>>A new word of the day:
>>>>
>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus
>>For starters:
>>>
>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer
>>>
>>"Trident layout engine, fully supports HTML 4.01, CSS Level 1, XML
>>1.0 and DOM Level 1, with minor implementation gaps. It partially
>>supports CSS Level 2 and DOM Level 2, with major implementation gaps
>>and conformance issues. Full conformance to the CSS 2.1
>>specification is on the agenda for the final Internet Explorer 8
>>release.[32] It has no support for XHTML, though it can render XHTML
>>documents authored with HTML compatibility principles and served
>>with a text/html MIME-type."
>>>
>>And tens of thousands of similar pages.

Quote:

>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>
>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>
>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella. org...
>>>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a page
>>>>>>>>>>>>i converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session
>>>>>>>>>>>>cookie to stop the repeating of an embedded video file on a
>>>>>>>>>>>>per session basis; i amended the php code to display a
>>>>>>>>>>>>still pic if the session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image
>>>>>>>>>>>>random rotator script into the echo command, but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>problem was the syntax of the single quotes and double
>>>>>>>>>>>>quotes needed in the doc.write and variable sequences in
>>>>>>>>>>>>the JS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber +
>>>>>>>>>>>> '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're
>>>>>>>>>>using document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...>
>>>>>>>>>>statement was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be
>>>>>>>>>>re-joined - all within the double-quote nested doc.write
>>>>>>>>>>stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>>>>>>>>>>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete
>>>>>>>>>>the image path, like so,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' + picnumber
>>>>>>>>>> +'.jpg\"
>>>>>>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness
>>>>>>>>>>Training Image\">');\n";
>>>>>>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>>>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff and
>>>>>>>>>>single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing that
>>>>>>>>>>Thomas suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first.
>>>>>>>>>>Friday night on Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your
>>>>>>>>>width, height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>>>>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must
>>>>>>>>be on all element attributes in that case, regardless of
>>>>>>>>attribute value type.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>>>>>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well
>>>>>>>supported by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>>>>>>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. The web document
>>>>>>was written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>>>>>>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations" modestly
>>>>>>instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. Go figure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>Sure, you CAN make pages which will cater to the different
>>>>>browsers idiosyncrasies, but why? Where is the need for xhtml?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>>>>>>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet
>>>>>>Explorer, such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around
>>>>>>problems with showing XHTML in standards-violating,
>>>>>>never-get-it-right HTTP clients like Internet Explorer. This is
>>>>>>not rocket science.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>>>>>>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>>>>>>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>>>>>>numeric values. It does allow for their omission, but recommends
>>>>>>they always be used. There is no indication about whether this
>>>>>>recommendation applies to the various levels of HTML: strict,
>>>>>>transitional, frameset.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes
>>>>>>>
>>>>>Which backs up my claim that HTML does NOT require quotes on
>>>>>numeric attributes.
>>>>If you really want to split hairs, as you apparently want to do,
>>>>the loosest usage of HTML doesn't require quotes on any attribute
>>>>values except in the very few circumstances that your determined
>>>>attempts to confuse the browser do not achieve the rendering you
>>>>desire.
>>>>>
>>>>>>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all
>>>>>>attribute values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in
>>>>>>XHTML:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>>>>>>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.
>>>>>So? That's one person's opinion. Worth no more or less than
>>>>>anyone else's opinion.
>>>>Actually, the HTML standards keepers RECOMMEND (though they don't
>>>>REQUIRE) you to quote attribute values----ALL OF THEM.
>>>>>
>>>>But then you have already established that you are a hair-splitter.
>>>>>
>>>>Perhaps you'd like to disparage the "opinions" of the HTML
>>>>standards keepers too?
>>>>>
>>>>>Search enough and you can find an opinion you agree with anywhere
>>>>>on the internet.
>>>>Precisely right!
>>>>>
>>>>But then I am not so desperate to support my claims on the sole
>>>>"opinion" of one kook with a web page against the 99,999 opinions
>>>>of people who impress me with reason and logic and a certain level
>>>>of erudition, some of whom actually sit on standards-setting
>>>>committees like the one that promulgates the HTML specification.
>>>>>
>>>>Oh my!
>>>>>
>>>>A new word of the day:
>>>>>
>>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus
>>>For starters:
>>>>
>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer
>>>>
>>>"Trident layout engine, fully supports HTML 4.01, CSS Level 1, XML
>>>1.0 and DOM Level 1, with minor implementation gaps. It partially
>>>supports CSS Level 2 and DOM Level 2, with major implementation gaps
>>>and conformance issues. Full conformance to the CSS 2.1
>>>specification is on the agenda for the final Internet Explorer 8
>>>release.[32] It has no support for XHTML, though it can render XHTML
>>>documents authored with HTML compatibility principles and served
>>>with a text/html MIME-type."
>>>>
>>>And tens of thousands of similar pages.
>>What part of that XHTML page that I gave in the response (inserted
>>here for the readers: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq) did
>>not conform to the XHTML specification???
>>>
>>Tricking broken browsers---in HTTP response headers, in meta
>>elements, etc.----that don't comply with either the HTML or XHTML
>>specification--- notwithstanding your hilarious citation of a
>>Wikipedia article whose content is known to be notoriously
>>inaccurate---is not the fault of page developers. Perhaps instead of
>>recommending that page developers shy away from using XHTML in STARK
>>CONTRAST to the HTML specification writers URGING you to do so, you
>>should be telling them to include alternately served documents with
>>the simple statement urging their readers to stop using broken
>>browsers. Many developers do JUST that, just as many developers that
>>serve script-dependent content tell their readers that the
>>scientific/chemistry calculator they want to use won't work unless
>>they enable their browser to use scripts.
>>>
>>And in finishing:
>>>
>>Best practices are that attribute values in HTML---all of them---are
>>quoted, as RECOMMENDED by those who promulgated the HTML
>>specificiation. To insist on deviating from best practices is
>>altogether foolish.

Quote:

>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>
>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in
>>>>>>>>>comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarella .org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>page i converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session
>>>>>>>>>>>>>cookie to stop the repeating of an embedded video file on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>a per session basis; i amended the php code to display a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>still pic if the session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>random rotator script into the echo command, but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>problem was the syntax of the single quotes and double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>quotes needed in the doc.write and variable sequences in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>the JS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber
>>>>>>>>>>>>> + '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're
>>>>>>>>>>>using document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>>>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...>
>>>>>>>>>>>statement was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be
>>>>>>>>>>>re-joined - all within the double-quote nested doc.write
>>>>>>>>>>>stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>>>>>>>>>>>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete
>>>>>>>>>>>the image path, like so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>>>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>>>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' +
>>>>>>>>>>> picnumber +'.jpg\"
>>>>>>>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness
>>>>>>>>>>>Training Image\">');\n";
>>>>>>>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>>>>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>and single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing
>>>>>>>>>>>that Thomas suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first.
>>>>>>>>>>>Friday night on Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your
>>>>>>>>>>width, height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>>>>>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must
>>>>>>>>>be on all element attributes in that case, regardless of
>>>>>>>>>attribute value type.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>>>>>>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well
>>>>>>>>supported by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>>>>>>>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. The web document
>>>>>>>was written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>>>>>>>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations"
>>>>>>>modestly instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. Go figure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Sure, you CAN make pages which will cater to the different
>>>>>>browsers idiosyncrasies, but why? Where is the need for xhtml?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>>>>>>>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet
>>>>>>>Explorer, such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around
>>>>>>>problems with showing XHTML in standards-violating,
>>>>>>>never-get-it-right HTTP clients like Internet Explorer. This
>>>>>>>is not rocket science.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>>>>>>>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>>>>>>>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>>>>>>>numeric values. It does allow for their omission, but
>>>>>>>recommends they always be used. There is no indication about
>>>>>>>whether this recommendation applies to the various levels of
>>>>>>>HTML: strict, transitional, frameset.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Which backs up my claim that HTML does NOT require quotes on
>>>>>>numeric attributes.
>>>>>If you really want to split hairs, as you apparently want to do,
>>>>>the loosest usage of HTML doesn't require quotes on any attribute
>>>>>values except in the very few circumstances that your determined
>>>>>attempts to confuse the browser do not achieve the rendering you
>>>>>desire.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all
>>>>>>>attribute values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in
>>>>>>>XHTML:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>>>>>>>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.
>>>>>>So? That's one person's opinion. Worth no more or less than
>>>>>>anyone else's opinion.
>>>>>Actually, the HTML standards keepers RECOMMEND (though they don't
>>>>>REQUIRE) you to quote attribute values----ALL OF THEM.
>>>>>>
>>>>>But then you have already established that you are a
>>>>>hair-splitter.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Perhaps you'd like to disparage the "opinions" of the HTML
>>>>>standards keepers too?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Search enough and you can find an opinion you agree with
>>>>>>anywhere on the internet.
>>>>>Precisely right!
>>>>>>
>>>>>But then I am not so desperate to support my claims on the sole
>>>>>"opinion" of one kook with a web page against the 99,999 opinions
>>>>>of people who impress me with reason and logic and a certain
>>>>>level of erudition, some of whom actually sit on
>>>>>standards-setting committees like the one that promulgates the
>>>>>HTML specification.
>>>>>>
>>>>>Oh my!
>>>>>>
>>>>>A new word of the day:
>>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus
>>>>For starters:
>>>>>
>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer
>>>>>
>>>>"Trident layout engine, fully supports HTML 4.01, CSS Level 1, XML
>>>>1.0 and DOM Level 1, with minor implementation gaps. It partially
>>>>supports CSS Level 2 and DOM Level 2, with major implementation
>>>>gaps and conformance issues. Full conformance to the CSS 2.1
>>>>specification is on the agenda for the final Internet Explorer 8
>>>>release.[32] It has no support for XHTML, though it can render
>>>>XHTML documents authored with HTML compatibility principles and
>>>>served with a text/html MIME-type."
>>>>>
>>>>And tens of thousands of similar pages.
>>>What part of that XHTML page that I gave in the response (inserted
>>>here for the readers: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq) did
>>>not conform to the XHTML specification???
>>>>
>>>Tricking broken browsers---in HTTP response headers, in meta
>>>elements, etc.----that don't comply with either the HTML or XHTML
>>>specification--- notwithstanding your hilarious citation of a
>>>Wikipedia article whose content is known to be notoriously
>>>inaccurate---is not the fault of page developers. Perhaps instead
>>>of recommending that page developers shy away from using XHTML in
>>>STARK CONTRAST to the HTML specification writers URGING you to do
>>>so, you should be telling them to include alternately served
>>>documents with the simple statement urging their readers to stop
>>>using broken browsers. Many developers do JUST that, just as many
>>>developers that serve script-dependent content tell their readers
>>>that the scientific/chemistry calculator they want to use won't
>>>work unless they enable their browser to use scripts.
>>>>
>>>And in finishing:
>>>>
>>>Best practices are that attribute values in HTML---all of
>>>them---are quoted, as RECOMMENDED by those who promulgated the HTML
>>>specificiation. To insist on deviating from best practices is
>>>altogether foolish.
>>If you find Wikipedia to be inaccurate, you are free to edit it and
>>correct the inaccuracies. That's what it's all about. If you fail
>>to do that, that's your problem.
>>>
>>But you also haven't identified exactly WHAT is inaccurate about
>>this article - only made a generic statement. Specifically WHAT is
>>inaccurate, and how are you going to correct it?
>>>
>>And I didn't say whether something was recommended or not. I said
>>that quotes were not REQUIRED around numeric values. And they are
>>not.
>>>
>>Pages validate quite well with W3C's only HTML validator when
>>numbers are not in quotes. It doesn't even give a warning.

Quote:

Quote:

>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>
>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>
>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Seni Seven wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in
>>>>>>>>>>comp.lang.php:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>"Jerry Stuckle" <jstucklex@attglobal.netwrote in message
>>>>>>>>>>>>news:gf2t4m$inr$1@registered.motzarell a.org...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Request-1 wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>hi folks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>html coder here, new and terrified * of php!!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>aaaaaa!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>i'm trying to bury a JS script to rotate a photo, in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>page i converted from html to php.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the conversion went well, it was to use a php session
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>cookie to stop the repeating of an embedded video file on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>a per session basis; i amended the php code to display a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>still pic if the session cookie value was nil.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>worked fine.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thought I'd try integrating a tested and true JS image
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>random rotator script into the echo command, but the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>problem was the syntax of the single quotes and double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quotes needed in the doc.write and variable sequences in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>the JS.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>i tried escaping the double quotes (my echo used double
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>quotes), but to no avail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>here's the JS CODE i use in the tail end of my PHP.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>"picnumber" is the variable holding the randomly assigned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>number that chooses the picture.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any help much appreciated..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <script language='JavaScript1.2'>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <!-- begin
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> document.write(\"'<img src='images/swap/'+ picnumber
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> + '.jpg'>\");
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> // end -->
>>>>>>>>>>>>>></script>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "; }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>You have an extra single quote before <img ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Jerry,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>the single quote is actually necessary in JS when you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>using document.write to add strings in series (is it called
>>>>>>>>>>>>"concatenating" or something?). so the <img src...>
>>>>>>>>>>>>statement was broken down into 3 seperate stings to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>re-joined - all within the double-quote nested doc.write
>>>>>>>>>>>>stmt. my mistake was to leave the image path in single
>>>>>>>>>>>>quotes; instead I tried "escaped double quotes" to complete
>>>>>>>>>>>>the image path, like so,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>{ echo "<script language='JavaScript1.2'>\n";
>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "<!-- begin \n";
>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "document.write('<img src=\"images/swap/' +
>>>>>>>>>>>> picnumber +'.jpg\"
>>>>>>>>>>>>width=\"320\" height=\"240\" border=\"0\" alt=\"Fitness
>>>>>>>>>>>>Training Image\">');\n";
>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "// end -->\n";
>>>>>>>>>>>> echo "</script>"; }
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>but no avail. still no pic shows up.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>anyway. i get really confused with all the nested stuff
>>>>>>>>>>>>and single-double quotes. i may try that "heredoc" thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>that Thomas suggested. I'll need a couple of beers first.
>>>>>>>>>>>>Friday night on Javascript? Bad!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>BTW - you don't need quotes around numeric values like your
>>>>>>>>>>>width, height and border. Only non-numeric data.
>>>>>>>>>>Are you talking about generating strict (X)HTML? Quotes must
>>>>>>>>>>be on all element attributes in that case, regardless of
>>>>>>>>>>attribute value type.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1. There is no indication this is XHTML.
>>>>>>>>>2. You shouldn't use XHTML for web pages - it's not well
>>>>>>>>>supported by some browser, not the least being IE 6 and 7.
>>>>>>>>Actually, many can and do use XHTML for web pages.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I looked at this page successfully using IE7. The web document
>>>>>>>>was written by NONE OTHER THAN BY THE W3 Consortium itself, the
>>>>>>>>standards- setting (they use the term "recommendations"
>>>>>>>>modestly instead of "standards") in strict XHTML. Go figure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Sure, you CAN make pages which will cater to the different
>>>>>>>browsers idiosyncrasies, but why? Where is the need for xhtml?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>There are various documents that can be googled that specify
>>>>>>>>solutions wo using XHTML for broken browsers like Internet
>>>>>>>>Explorer, such as using an XML stylesheet also to get around
>>>>>>>>problems with showing XHTML in standards-violating,
>>>>>>>>never-get-it-right HTTP clients like Internet Explorer. This
>>>>>>>>is not rocket science.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>HTML does NOT require quotes on numeric attributes.
>>>>>>>>Actually the HTML 4 recommendation does not assert in any way
>>>>>>>>whatsoever that quotes can be omitted for attributes that have
>>>>>>>>numeric values. It does allow for their omission, but
>>>>>>>>recommends they always be used. There is no indication about
>>>>>>>>whether this recommendation applies to the various levels of
>>>>>>>>HTML: strict, transitional, frameset.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/intro/sgm...tml#attributes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Which backs up my claim that HTML does NOT require quotes on
>>>>>>>numeric attributes.
>>>>>>If you really want to split hairs, as you apparently want to do,
>>>>>>the loosest usage of HTML doesn't require quotes on any attribute
>>>>>>values except in the very few circumstances that your determined
>>>>>>attempts to confuse the browser do not achieve the rendering you
>>>>>>desire.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Here is one individual's take on SCRUPULOUSLY quoting all
>>>>>>>>attribute values in HTML, which MUST be quoted in every case in
>>>>>>>>XHTML:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/qattr.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>He is or was a regular (long-time) and, I believe, respected
>>>>>>>>contributer to the HTML usage newsgroups.
>>>>>>>So? That's one person's opinion. Worth no more or less than
>>>>>>>anyone else's opinion.
>>>>>>Actually, the HTML standards keepers RECOMMEND (though they don't
>>>>>>REQUIRE) you to quote attribute values----ALL OF THEM.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>But then you have already established that you are a
>>>>>>hair-splitter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Perhaps you'd like to disparage the "opinions" of the HTML
>>>>>>standards keepers too?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Search enough and you can find an opinion you agree with
>>>>>>>anywhere on the internet.
>>>>>>Precisely right!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>But then I am not so desperate to support my claims on the sole
>>>>>>"opinion" of one kook with a web page against the 99,999 opinions
>>>>>>of people who impress me with reason and logic and a certain
>>>>>>level of erudition, some of whom actually sit on
>>>>>>standards-setting committees like the one that promulgates the
>>>>>>HTML specification.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>Oh my!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>A new word of the day:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/consensus
>>>>>For starters:
>>>>>>
>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer
>>>>>>
>>>>>"Trident layout engine, fully supports HTML 4.01, CSS Level 1, XML
>>>>>1.0 and DOM Level 1, with minor implementation gaps. It partially
>>>>>supports CSS Level 2 and DOM Level 2, with major implementation
>>>>>gaps and conformance issues. Full conformance to the CSS 2.1
>>>>>specification is on the agenda for the final Internet Explorer 8
>>>>>release.[32] It has no support for XHTML, though it can render
>>>>>XHTML documents authored with HTML compatibility principles and
>>>>>served with a text/html MIME-type."
>>>>>>
>>>>>And tens of thousands of similar pages.
>>>>What part of that XHTML page that I gave in the response (inserted
>>>>here for the readers: http://www.w3.org/MarkUp/2004/xhtml-faq) did
>>>>not conform to the XHTML specification???
>>>>>
>>>>Tricking broken browsers---in HTTP response headers, in meta
>>>>elements, etc.----that don't comply with either the HTML or XHTML
>>>>specification--- notwithstanding your hilarious citation of a
>>>>Wikipedia article whose content is known to be notoriously
>>>>inaccurate---is not the fault of page developers. Perhaps instead
>>>>of recommending that page developers shy away from using XHTML in
>>>>STARK CONTRAST to the HTML specification writers URGING you to do
>>>>so, you should be telling them to include alternately served
>>>>documents with the simple statement urging their readers to stop
>>>>using broken browsers. Many developers do JUST that, just as many
>>>>developers that serve script-dependent content tell their readers
>>>>that the scientific/chemistry calculator they want to use won't
>>>>work unless they enable their browser to use scripts.
>>>>>
>>>>And in finishing:
>>>>>
>>>>Best practices are that attribute values in HTML---all of
>>>>them---are quoted, as RECOMMENDED by those who promulgated the HTML
>>>>specificiation. To insist on deviating from best practices is
>>>>altogether foolish.
>>>If you find Wikipedia to be inaccurate, you are free to edit it and
>>>correct the inaccuracies. That's what it's all about. If you fail
>>>to do that, that's your problem.
>>>>
>>>But you also haven't identified exactly WHAT is inaccurate about
>>>this article - only made a generic statement. Specifically WHAT is
>>>inaccurate, and how are you going to correct it?
>>>>
>>>And I didn't say whether something was recommended or not. I said
>>>that quotes were not REQUIRED around numeric values. And they are
>>>not.
>>>>
>>>Pages validate quite well with W3C's only HTML validator when
>>>numbers are not in quotes. It doesn't even give a warning.
>>Yeah, Transitional HTML is forgiving that way.
>>>
>>Set the validator for Strict HTML, and pretty much all of the
>>attributes you would want to use with numeric values are
>>disallowed---that is, generate an error on the validator. You are
>>supposed to be using a styling convention (CSS).
>>>

>>Set the validator to use the HTML Tidy option to----in its
>>words---CLEAN UP your HTML, and lo and behold, all your unquoted
>>attribute values--- every one of them---get quoted, and your doctype
>>is set to Transitional to allow the otherwise disallowed attributes
>>in Strict HTML.
>>>
>>What do you think that W3 is saying to the HTML page writer when it
>>"cleans up" the page this way?
>>>