PHP IDE

Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for a PHP IDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:

0) PHP IDE Project
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3) PHP Designer
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio

Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with an IDE support and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??

Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!

Sir Galahad

"Sir Galahad" <sgalahad@tiskali.itwrote in message
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Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for a PHP IDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:
>
0) PHP IDE Project
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3) PHP Designer
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio
>
Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with an IDE support and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??
>
Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!
>
Sir Galahad

I haven't used anything but zend so I can't make an informed decision. But
zend seems to be pretty good. Not like visual studio or anythign but pretty
good. I wish it was more customizable and the interface was more streamlined
and nicer looking.

As far as I can tell it definitely is a complete package though. The most
important thing IMO is the debugger beause thats really the only reason I
use it. You can debug server side or client side. There are a few quirks I
do not like but it does the job at this point.

Jon Slaughter ha scritto:

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I haven't used anything but zend so I can't make an informed decision. [CUT]
There are a few quirks I
do not like but it does the job at this point.

Thank you so much for your response :)

Sir

On Sat, 05 May 2007 12:45:56 +0200, Sir Galahad wrote:

Quote:

Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for a PHP IDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:
>
0) PHP IDE Project
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3) PHP Designer
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio
>
Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with an IDE support and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??
>
Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!
>
Sir Galahad

If you use it non-commercially, PHPedit offers a free personal license. Or
at least they dit , I have one, but since I moved to Linux I haven't used
it for a while. My experiences with PHPEdit are good. I tried Zend, didn't
like it personally. Had a bit of trouble getting Eclipse to work the way I
wanted, and switched to Quanta++. Hasn't got a debugger, so I set up a
local copy of my hosts AMP setup.

My 2cts.
Sh.

Sir Galahad napisaÅ‚(a):

Quote:

Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for a PHP IDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:
>
0) PHP IDE Project
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3) PHP Designer
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio
>
Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with an IDE support and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??
>
Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!
>
Sir Galahad

I recomend Eclipse PDT (Eclipse PHP project).
Eclipse is great platform and the base of PDT will be used in future
Zend Studio as well.
The community of this IDE is quite large so you wont have trouble
finding most answers.
PDT is now at 0.7 and based on Eclipse 3.2. Final version is expected
this september.
PDT suports Zend plugin for debuging, there is also Xdebug plugin.

Editor itself suports most features people usualy want,
and you can customize it.

Give it a try.

Sir Galahad wrote:

Quote:

Jon Slaughter ha scritto:

Quote:

>I haven't used anything but zend so I can't make an informed decision.
>[CUT]
>There are a few quirks I do not like but it does the job at this point.

>
Thank you so much for your response :)
>
Sir

I found PHPed to be most impressive and would highly recommend it, quite
expensive though as I bought the Professional edition. It's very fast
and has all the features you could need.

Zend Studio is a bit bulky I found, intellisense drags quite a bit and
standard edition is quite low on features, no FTP, no Database connector.

It all depends on who much you are going to be PHP'ing and how much you
will really on advanced features.

Before I started programming commercially I just used PSPad
(www.pspad.com) which is a very fast and feature packed editor,
including lots of extended goodies such as screen color grabber, hex
editing, spell checking etc. and has a manually invoked form of
intellisense (CTRL-J/CTRE-SPACE I think).

Tyno Gendo wrote:

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Zend Studio is a bit bulky I found, intellisense drags quite a bit and
standard edition is quite low on features, no FTP, no Database connector.

I use Zend - and it DOES have FTP and database connections.

Also that intellisense stuff absolutely *rocks*. I created
about a hundred custom functions that I use over and over. It
not only intellisenses PHP, but also my custom functions.

On 5 mayo, 07:45, Sir Galahad <sgala...@tiskali.itwrote:

Quote:

Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for a PHP IDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:
>
0) PHP IDE Project
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3) PHP Designer
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio
>
Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with an IDE support and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??
>
Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!
>
Sir Galahad

Ok, I suggest you a pair. Well, This is my opinion, I mean, I dont
have truth at all (with me... :) ) It's just a point of view.

First, you can try with PSPad - fast lightweight - nice one, for low-
end machines. Also I work with it in my P3 with 128 Mb. Ram and
Windows XP. (Laptop) Works Fine!
If you have a MOBO more strong... like P4, you can try Nusphere, Its
very good IDE, have code completion, thats make work more faster, and
have included in package PHP, XHTML, HTML, CSS, SQL help files. Very
good program.
I hope be clear and you can try some package. Good luck!

I used to use PSPad (after I broke my old version of Dreamweaver), and
I liked it, but it wasn't so great as Zend. I am very satisfied with
Zend, other than it's crappy FTP thing and it's slowness and
instability. However, after reading previous posts in this thread, and
reading the description of NuSphere PHPed, I'm starting to think I'd
like PHPed better. I'll be giving it a try.

I've used ActiveState Komodo for PHP. I usually use it for PERL. It's
ok, I like the fact that it has a debugger, but it's FTP isn't all
that great either.

With Zend, I don't even bother using the built in FTP. I just use
FileZilla separately. Kind of a pain, but I find it more efficient
than Zend's FTP.

-Mike PII

On May 5, 11:51 am, Piotr <p...@poczta.onet.plwrote:

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Sir Galahad napisaÅ‚(a):
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Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for a PHP IDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:

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0) PHP IDE Project
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3) PHP Designer
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio

>

Quote:

Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with an IDE support and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??

>

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Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!

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Sir Galahad

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I recomend Eclipse PDT (Eclipse PHP project).

Here, Here! I'm big on open source, so I love Eclipse. I went from
SciTE to Notepad++ to Eclipse and I love it.

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Eclipse is great platform and the base of PDT will be used in future
Zend Studio as well.
The community of this IDE is quite large so you wont have trouble
finding most answers.
PDT is now at 0.7 and based on Eclipse 3.2. Final version is expected
this september.
PDT suports Zend plugin for debuging, there is also Xdebug plugin.
>
Editor itself suports most features people usualy want,
and you can customize it.
>
Give it a try.

On May 5, 10:00Â*pm, Benjamin <musiccomposit...@gmail.comwrote:

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On May 5, 11:51 am, Piotr <p...@poczta.onet.plwrote:
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Sir Galahad napisaÅ‚(a):

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Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for aPHPIDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:

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0)PHPIDEProject
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3)PHPDesigner
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio

>

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Now.. Â*before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyonehere is
already coding with anIDEsupport and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??

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Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!

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Sir Galahad

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I recomend Eclipse PDT (EclipsePHPproject).

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Here, Here! I'm big on open source, so I love Eclipse. I went from
SciTE to Notepad++ to Eclipse and I love it.
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Eclipse is great platform and the base of PDT will be used in future
Zend Studio as well.
The community of thisIDEis quite large so you wont have trouble
finding most answers.
PDT is now at 0.7 and based on Eclipse 3.2. Final version is expected
this september.
PDT suports Zend plugin for debuging, there is also Xdebug plugin.

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Editor itself suports most features people usualy want,
and you can customize it.

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NuSphere's PhpED absolutely rules. They release version 5.0 - I got it
and can't stop playing. Definetely check it out. BTW - it blows Zend
out of the water, look at Zend's own forum :-). And as far as I know
botth PhpEDIT and Eclipse use NuSphere's debugger - the free version
of it.
Regards.

I use PhpED - www.nusphere.com. If you are developing on Windows and
deploying anywhere - this is it, don't bother withthe rest of them.
shereshm is right about the debugger by the way, I found 5 companie
using nuSphere dbg
On May 5, 6:45 am, Sir Galahad <sgala...@tiskali.itwrote:

Quote:

Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for aPHPIDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:
>
0)PHPIDEProject
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3)PHPDesigner
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio
>
Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with anIDEsupport and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??
>
Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!
>
Sir Galahad

shereshm napisaÅ‚(a):
And as far as I know

Quote:

botth PhpEDIT and Eclipse use NuSphere's debugger - the free version
of it.

Eclipse PDT has no build in debugger. It supports however php debuger
protocol, thus allowing the user to use any debugger. I used zend
debugger and xdebug with Eclipse. There is also plugin for dbg.

Sanders Kaufman wrote:

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Tyno Gendo wrote:
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>Zend Studio is a bit bulky I found, intellisense drags quite a bit and
>standard edition is quite low on features, no FTP, no Database connector.

>
I use Zend - and it DOES have FTP and database connections.
>
Also that intellisense stuff absolutely *rocks*. I created about a
hundred custom functions that I use over and over. It not only
intellisenses PHP, but also my custom functions.

It does have FTP and Database in the Professional version, not in the
standard, and the Pro version is very expensive if I recall.

Mind you, PHPed was expensive and not available under Linux.

Arguments I heared against Zend are that they update and charge for
point upgrades but PHPed has rolling yearly renewal which I think is better.

On May 8, 12:48 pm, Tyno Gendo <you@localhostwrote:

Quote:

Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Quote:

Tyno Gendo wrote:

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Zend Studio is a bit bulky I found, intellisense drags quite a bit and
standard edition is quite low on features, no FTP, no Database connector.

>

Quote:

I use Zend - and it DOES have FTP and database connections.

>

Quote:

Also that intellisense stuff absolutely *rocks*. I created about a
hundred custom functions that I use over and over. It not only
intellisensesPHP, but also my custom functions.

>
It does have FTP and Database in the Professional version, not in the
standard, and the Pro version is very expensive if I recall.
>
Mind you, PHPed was expensive and not available under Linux.
>
Arguments I heared against Zend are that they update and charge for
point upgrades but PHPed has rolling yearly renewal which I think is better.

PhpED is not more expenssive that Zend, actually I got during their
sale and it came out much cheaper than ZS.

On May 5, 4:45 am, Sir Galahad <sgala...@tiskali.itwrote:

Quote:

Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for a PHP IDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:
>
0) PHP IDE Project
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3) PHP Designer
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio
>
Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with an IDE support and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??
>
Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!
>
Sir Galahad

Personally, I use PHP Designer. I really like it, and it has a lot of
features without bloating too much, and it has built in FTP/code
completion, etc. Unfortunately, it isn't open source, but there is a
free version (it used to be completely free). The only other editor
I've used besides it was Notepad2, which is really lightweight, but in
terms of features, all it had was syntax highlighting :) Useful for
some situations.

voland111@yahoo.com wrote:

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On May 8, 12:48 pm, Tyno Gendo <you@localhostwrote:

Quote:

>Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Quote:

>>Tyno Gendo wrote:
>>>Zend Studio is a bit bulky I found, intellisense drags quite a bit and
>>>standard edition is quite low on features, no FTP, no Database connector.
>>I use Zend - and it DOES have FTP and database connections.
>>Also that intellisense stuff absolutely *rocks*. I created about a
>>hundred custom functions that I use over and over. It not only
>>intellisensesPHP, but also my custom functions.

>It does have FTP and Database in the Professional version, not in the
>standard, and the Pro version is very expensive if I recall.
>>
>Mind you, PHPed was expensive and not available under Linux.
>>
>Arguments I heared against Zend are that they update and charge for
>point upgrades but PHPed has rolling yearly renewal which I think is better.

>
PhpED is not more expenssive that Zend, actually I got during their
sale and it came out much cheaper than ZS.
>

Yes, i too bought it in the sale. It's a fantastic IDE. I would say
the most "Visual Studio" like of all the PHP environments I've tried.

I'd still class it as expensive from a home user perspective, but for
commercial use its brilliant.

I only started my first commercial PHP employment about 7 months ago and
in that time I switched between lots of different IDEs and eventually
purchased PHPed out of my own money because I wanted the most
comfortable environment for me.

Everyone's different, but I heartily recommend it (and no I'm not
employed by NuSphere... LOL )

On May 5, 3:45 am, Sir Galahad <sgala...@tiskali.itwrote:

Quote:

Hi guys!!
Surfing thw web looking for a PHP IDE, I've found those 7 IDEs:
>
0) PHP IDE Project
1) PHPEclipse
2) ActiveState's Komodo
3) PHP Designer
4) NuSphere's PhpED
5) PHPEdit
6) Zend Studio
>
Now.. before trying any of them, I would like to know if anyone here is
already coding with an IDE support and if so, what of them? Are there
other IDEs? What are "the best"? What are "pros" and "cons"??
>
Thanks a lot for precious suggestions!!
>
Sir Galahad

Be sure to check out CodeGear's Delphi for Php 2007

PhpED advantage version is on sale for 74 dollars, was 495!

Is it true? Was it really 495 ? 421 dollars' discount?

On May 8, 3:40 pm, voland...@yahoo.com wrote:

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On May 8, 12:48 pm, Tyno Gendo <you@localhostwrote:
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>
>

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Sanders Kaufman wrote:

Quote:

Tyno Gendo wrote:

>

Quote:

>Zend Studio is a bit bulky I found, intellisense drags quite a bit and
>standard edition is quite low on features, no FTP, no Database connector.

>

Quote:

I use Zend - and it DOES have FTP and database connections.

>

Quote:

Also that intellisense stuff absolutely *rocks*. I created about a
hundred custom functions that I use over and over. It not only
intellisensesPHP, but also my custom functions.

>

Quote:

It does have FTP and Database in the Professional version, not in the
standard, and the Pro version is very expensive if I recall.

>

Quote:

Mind you, PHPed was expensive and not available under Linux.

>

Quote:

Arguments I heared against Zend are that they update and charge for
point upgrades but PHPed has rolling yearly renewal which I think is better.

>
PhpED is not more expenssive that Zend, actually I got during their
sale and it came out much cheaper than ZS.

Ming wrote:

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On May 8, 3:40 pm, voland...@yahoo.com wrote:

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>On May 8, 12:48 pm, Tyno Gendo <you@localhostwrote:
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>>
>>

Quote:

>>Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>>Tyno Gendo wrote:
>>>>Zend Studio is a bit bulky I found, intellisense drags quite a bit and
>>>>standard edition is quite low on features, no FTP, no Database connector.
>>>I use Zend - and it DOES have FTP and database connections.
>>>Also that intellisense stuff absolutely *rocks*. I created about a
>>>hundred custom functions that I use over and over. It not only
>>>intellisensesPHP, but also my custom functions.
>>It does have FTP and Database in the Professional version, not in the
>>standard, and the Pro version is very expensive if I recall.
>>Mind you, PHPed was expensive and not available under Linux.
>>Arguments I heared against Zend are that they update and charge for
>>point upgrades but PHPed has rolling yearly renewal which I think is better.

>PhpED is not more expenssive that Zend, actually I got during their
>sale and it came out much cheaper than ZS.

>
>
PhpED advantage version is on sale for 74 dollars, was 495!
>
Is it true? Was it really 495 ? 421 dollars' discount?
>

(Top posting fixed)

Yep. I suspect it wasn't selling many at $495. It's a good program -
but not THAT good. Some companies would buy it, but it's out of the
price of most individual developers. And I suspect a lot of companies
wouldn't pay for it, either.

After all - it is basically just an editor with some nice "extras". But
try explaining to the accounting department why these "extras" are so
important.

I think it's a lot more realistically priced now.

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On May 11, 4:26 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck...@attglobal.netwrote:

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Ming wrote:

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On May 8, 3:40 pm, voland...@yahoo.com wrote:

Quote:

On May 8, 12:48 pm, Tyno Gendo <you@localhostwrote:

>

Quote:

>Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>>Tyno Gendo wrote:
>>>Zend Studio is a bit bulky I found, intellisense drags quite a bit and
>>>standard edition is quite low on features, no FTP, no Database connector.
>>I use Zend - and it DOES have FTP and database connections.
>>Also that intellisense stuff absolutely *rocks*. I created about a
>>hundred custom functions that I use over and over. It not only
>>intellisensesPHP, but also my custom functions.
>It does have FTP and Database in the Professional version, not in the
>standard, and the Pro version is very expensive if I recall.
>Mind you, PHPed was expensive and not available under Linux.
>Arguments I heared against Zend are that they update and charge for
>point upgrades but PHPed has rolling yearly renewal which I think is better.
PhpED is not more expenssive that Zend, actually I got during their
sale and it came out much cheaper than ZS.

>

Quote:

PhpED advantage version is on sale for 74 dollars, was 495!
>
Is it true? Was it really 495 ? 421 dollars' discount?
>

>
(Top posting fixed)
>
Yep. I suspect it wasn't selling many at $495. It's a good program -
but not THAT good. Some companies would buy it, but it's out of the
price of most individual developers. And I suspect a lot of companies
wouldn't pay for it, either.

I just downloaded PhpEd to try it. The code completion feature does
not work properly. For example, after I declare $client, when I type
$c, it does not give me $client for me to choose.But if I type $_ and
then delete _, then type c, the popup window does show $client. Not
very impressive.

Quote:

>
After all - it is basically just an editor with some nice "extras". But
try explaining to the accounting department why these "extras" are so
important.
>
I think it's a lot more realistically priced now.
>
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JDS Computer Training Corp.
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A quick follow-up:

I posed this question in their forum and it is because of a setting in
phped. http://support.nusphere.com/viewtopic.php?t=3435

Quote:

I just downloaded PhpEd to try it. The code completion feature does
not work properly. For example, after I declare $client, when I type
$c, it does not give me $client for me to choose.But if I type $_ and
then delete _, then type c, the popup window does show $client. Not
very impressive.

On May 13, 1:46 am, Ming <minghu...@gmail.comwrote:

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Aquickfollow-up:
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Iposedthisquestionintheirforumand it isbecauseof a setting in
phped.http://support.nusphere.com/viewtopic.php?t=3435
>
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>

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I just downloaded PhpEd to try it. The code completion feature does
not work properly. For example, after I declare $client, when I type
$c, it does not give me $client for me to choose.But if I type $_ and
then delete _, then type c, the popup window does show $client. Not
very impressive.- Hide quoted text -

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Hey - not only it works, it is amazing how flexible PhpED is. If you
check this setting you'll notice that not only can you set the number
of the character on which code completion kicks in, but the delay with
which it appears. I watched their demos and their newsletters - it is
clear that the company has a philosophy about it - make everything
configurable. Sometimes it even backfires on them- I guess too much
choice is given to the users, but they got my vote- and my money :-).
BTW, $74 for Advantage - is unreal, you must be mistaken. But I got
PhpED for 60 bucks cheaper than ZS - and that's with one year
upgrades.

On May 13, 3:11 pm, voland111 <voland...@yahoo.comwrote:

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On May 13, 1:46 am, Ming <minghu...@gmail.comwrote:
>

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Aquickfollow-up:

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Iposedthisquestionintheirforumand it isbecauseof a setting in
phped.http://support.nusphere.com/viewtopic.php?t=3435

>

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I just downloaded PhpEd to try it. The code completion feature does
not work properly. For example, after I declare $client, when I type
$c, it does not give me $client for me to choose.But if I type $_ and
then delete _, then type c, the popup window does show $client. Not
very impressive.- Hide quoted text -

>

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Hey - not only it works, it is amazing how flexible PhpED is. If you
check this setting you'll notice that not only can you set the number
of the character on which code completion kicks in, but the delay with
which it appears. I watched their demos and their newsletters - it is
clear that the company has a philosophy about it - make everything
configurable. Sometimes it even backfires on them- I guess too much
choice is given to the users, but they got my vote- and my money :-).
BTW, $74 for Advantage - is unreal, you must be mistaken. But I got
PhpED for 60 bucks cheaper than ZS - and that's with one year
upgrades.

Yes, I made a big mistake. It is 74 dollars off its regular price, not
74 dollars for it. I just noticed the red chars. :(

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