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pa_broon74
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#1: Mar 6 '07
Hey folks.

Not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, (I looked for a
PHP group for dopes but couldn't find one...) You're probably going to
think I'm a philistine for doing this but what can I do...

I downloaded a copy of DBqwiksite and have "designed" a wee PHP
website based on an access database with only one table with 7
datafields. Its laughably straight forward. The thing is, I have no
idea what the file structure on my web space should be like.

Do I put the database in the root folder or does it go in a seperate
database folder? I have to say, don't believe the blurb on
DBqwiksite's box, its so easy to get something up and running on your
PC but as soon as you try to publish; it falls flat on its face.

It has a 'deploy' wizard but so far, it has been distinctly unwizard-
like in that it deploys everything other than the database itself.

Any basic pointers would be appreciated and do assume that I know very
little about PHP. If I see INVALID QUERY once more on my screen its
going out the window... :-)

Thanks


Erwin Moller
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#2: Mar 6 '07

re: php/access


pa_broon74 wrote:
Quote:
Hey folks.
>
Not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, (I looked for a
PHP group for dopes but couldn't find one...)
That is OK, dopes are welcome here. ;-)


You're probably going to
Quote:
think I'm a philistine for doing this but what can I do...
>
I downloaded a copy of DBqwiksite and have "designed" a wee PHP
website based on an access database with only one table with 7
datafields. Its laughably straight forward. The thing is, I have no
idea what the file structure on my web space should be like.
>
Do I put the database in the root folder or does it go in a seperate
database folder? I have to say, don't believe the blurb on
DBqwiksite's box, its so easy to get something up and running on your
PC but as soon as you try to publish; it falls flat on its face.
>
Where to put the yourDB.mdb file?
Best thing to do is make that general, so you don't have to decide upfront,
since you don't know the target machine.

How to make it flexible?
Define the location of the database in a file.
Include this file in all pages that use the database.

You can also add the connectstring in the same file.

That way you can easily change location without having to check all your
scripts.

Have a look at www.php.net and find the function:
require() or probably better: require_once()

You can also use include() but require will throw an error at you when the
file cannot be found, which makes more sense on a page that demands
databaseaccess. :-)
Quote:
It has a 'deploy' wizard but so far, it has been distinctly unwizard-
like in that it deploys everything other than the database itself.
Well, no help there. I never used that program.
Quote:
>
Any basic pointers would be appreciated and do assume that I know very
little about PHP. If I see INVALID QUERY once more on my screen its
going out the window... :-)
Don't hit any Linux users please. ;-)
Quote:
>
Thanks
Regards,
Erwin Moller
Erwin Moller
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#3: Mar 6 '07

re: php/access


Erwin Moller wrote:
Quote:
pa_broon74 wrote:
>
Quote:
>Hey folks.
>>
>Not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, (I looked for a
>PHP group for dopes but couldn't find one...)
>
That is OK, dopes are welcome here. ;-)
>
>
You're probably going to
Quote:
>think I'm a philistine for doing this but what can I do...
>>
>I downloaded a copy of DBqwiksite and have "designed" a wee PHP
>website based on an access database with only one table with 7
>datafields. Its laughably straight forward. The thing is, I have no
>idea what the file structure on my web space should be like.
>>
>Do I put the database in the root folder or does it go in a seperate
>database folder? I have to say, don't believe the blurb on
>DBqwiksite's box, its so easy to get something up and running on your
>PC but as soon as you try to publish; it falls flat on its face.
>>
>
Where to put the yourDB.mdb file?
Best thing to do is make that general, so you don't have to decide
upfront, since you don't know the target machine.
>
How to make it flexible?
Define the location of the database in a file.
Include this file in all pages that use the database.
>
You can also add the connectstring in the same file.
>
That way you can easily change location without having to check all your
scripts.
>
Have a look at www.php.net and find the function:
require() or probably better: require_once()
>
You can also use include() but require will throw an error at you when the
file cannot be found, which makes more sense on a page that demands
databaseaccess. :-)
>
Quote:
>It has a 'deploy' wizard but so far, it has been distinctly unwizard-
>like in that it deploys everything other than the database itself.
>
Well, no help there. I never used that program.
>
Quote:
>>
>Any basic pointers would be appreciated and do assume that I know very
>little about PHP. If I see INVALID QUERY once more on my screen its
>going out the window... :-)
>
Don't hit any Linux users please. ;-)
>
Quote:
>>
>Thanks
>
Regards,
Erwin Moller
One addition: IF you choose Access as your database you are limmiting
yourself to Microsoft platforms (read IIS).
I think you can also use Access on Linux, but this is a lot of pain, and you
don't want that.
IF you are in the process of designing your application, it makes sense to
switch to a database, like Postgres or MySQL. Those databases can run under
both W$-OS and Linux.

Regards,
Erwin
pa_broon74
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#4: Mar 6 '07

re: php/access


On 6 Mar, 13:06, Erwin Moller
<since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_m...@spam yourself.comwrote:
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Erwin Moller wrote:
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pa_broon74 wrote:
>
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Quote:
Hey folks.
>
Quote:
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Not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, (I looked for a
PHP group for dopes but couldn't find one...)
>
Quote:
That is OK, dopes are welcome here. ;-)
>
Quote:
You're probably going to
Quote:
think I'm a philistine for doing this but what can I do...
>
Quote:
Quote:
I downloaded a copy of DBqwiksite and have "designed" a wee PHP
website based on an access database with only one table with 7
datafields. Its laughably straight forward. The thing is, I have no
idea what the file structure on my web space should be like.
>
Quote:
Quote:
Do I put the database in the root folder or does it go in a seperate
database folder? I have to say, don't believe the blurb on
DBqwiksite's box, its so easy to get something up and running on your
PC but as soon as you try to publish; it falls flat on its face.
>
Quote:
Where to put the yourDB.mdb file?
Best thing to do is make that general, so you don't have to decide
upfront, since you don't know the target machine.
>
Quote:
How to make it flexible?
Define the location of the database in a file.
Include this file in all pages that use the database.
>
Quote:
You can also add the connectstring in the same file.
>
Quote:
That way you can easily change location without having to check all your
scripts.
>
Quote:
Have a look atwww.php.netand find the function:
require() or probably better: require_once()
>
Quote:
You can also use include() but require will throw an error at you when the
file cannot be found, which makes more sense on a page that demands
databaseaccess. :-)
>
Quote:
Quote:
It has a 'deploy' wizard but so far, it has been distinctly unwizard-
like in that it deploys everything other than the database itself.
>
Quote:
Well, no help there. I never used that program.
>
Quote:
Quote:
Any basic pointers would be appreciated and do assume that I know very
little about PHP. If I see INVALID QUERY once more on my screen its
going out the window... :-)
>
Quote:
Don't hit any Linux users please. ;-)
>
Quote:
Quote:
Thanks
>
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Regards,
Erwin Moller
>
One addition: IF you choose Access as your database you are limmiting
yourself to Microsoft platforms (read IIS).
I think you can also use Access on Linux, but this is a lot of pain, and you
don't want that.
IF you are in the process of designing your application, it makes sense to
switch to a database, like Postgres or MySQL. Those databases can run under
both W$-OS and Linux.
>
Regards,
Erwin- Hide quoted text -
>
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Thanks for your help.

I think that I might transmogrify from access to mySQL. We don't
support access here so it makes sense to use sql (which we do, sort of
anyway...)

My IT equipment is still on my desk, I count this as a good day :-)

(Am I allowed to aim for apple users?? ;-)

Erwin Moller
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#5: Mar 6 '07

re: php/access


pa_broon74 wrote:
Quote:
On 6 Mar, 13:06, Erwin Moller
<since_humans_read_this_I_am_spammed_too_m...@spam yourself.comwrote:
Quote:
>Erwin Moller wrote:
Quote:
pa_broon74 wrote:
>>
Quote:
>Hey folks.
>>
Quote:
>Not sure if this is the right place to be asking this, (I looked for a
>PHP group for dopes but couldn't find one...)
>>
Quote:
That is OK, dopes are welcome here. ;-)
>>
Quote:
You're probably going to
>think I'm a philistine for doing this but what can I do...
>>
Quote:
>I downloaded a copy of DBqwiksite and have "designed" a wee PHP
>website based on an access database with only one table with 7
>datafields. Its laughably straight forward. The thing is, I have no
>idea what the file structure on my web space should be like.
>>
Quote:
>Do I put the database in the root folder or does it go in a seperate
>database folder? I have to say, don't believe the blurb on
>DBqwiksite's box, its so easy to get something up and running on your
>PC but as soon as you try to publish; it falls flat on its face.
>>
Quote:
Where to put the yourDB.mdb file?
Best thing to do is make that general, so you don't have to decide
upfront, since you don't know the target machine.
>>
Quote:
How to make it flexible?
Define the location of the database in a file.
Include this file in all pages that use the database.
>>
Quote:
You can also add the connectstring in the same file.
>>
Quote:
That way you can easily change location without having to check all
your scripts.
>>
Quote:
Have a look atwww.php.netand find the function:
require() or probably better: require_once()
>>
Quote:
You can also use include() but require will throw an error at you when
the file cannot be found, which makes more sense on a page that demands
databaseaccess. :-)
>>
Quote:
>It has a 'deploy' wizard but so far, it has been distinctly unwizard-
>like in that it deploys everything other than the database itself.
>>
Quote:
Well, no help there. I never used that program.
>>
Quote:
>Any basic pointers would be appreciated and do assume that I know very
>little about PHP. If I see INVALID QUERY once more on my screen its
>going out the window... :-)
>>
Quote:
Don't hit any Linux users please. ;-)
>>
Quote:
>Thanks
>>
Quote:
Regards,
Erwin Moller
>>
>One addition: IF you choose Access as your database you are limmiting
>yourself to Microsoft platforms (read IIS).
>I think you can also use Access on Linux, but this is a lot of pain, and
>you don't want that.
>IF you are in the process of designing your application, it makes sense
>to switch to a database, like Postgres or MySQL. Those databases can run
>under both W$-OS and Linux.
>>
>Regards,
>Erwin- Hide quoted text -
>>
>- Show quoted text -
>
Thanks for your help.
>
I think that I might transmogrify from access to mySQL. We don't
support access here so it makes sense to use sql (which we do, sort of
anyway...)
>
My IT equipment is still on my desk, I count this as a good day :-)
>
(Am I allowed to aim for apple users?? ;-)
:-)
Even Apples have Postgresql and MySQL (at least in their 10.X editions).

I really doubt if you can find a Postgresql port for Apple OS 6, or
something old like that, but who knows: Maybe an adept created it.
Much to my suprise I found out people are using Amigas (my old favorite
comp) as webservers these days, so I wouldn't be too surprised to see an
OS6 run mySQL. :-)

Erwin
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