Script preview

Tomorrow I will be asking for a script critique even though I know its
going to get slagged silly .

Being a php newbie means I can only write newbie code .

Will this be taken into account or are some users on this newsgroup in
fantasy cloud cuckoo land and think a newbie should be able to write
expert code ? .

re: Script preview

People here are usually nice. You insinuating they're in fantasy cloud
cuckoo land and that they will probably slag silly your code is
definitely *not* nice.

Just post it, be ready to react to the positive criticism and ignore
the negative if there is such.

We all were newbies sometime.

re: Script preview

I noticed that Message-ID:
<MPG.1d51c78fc0647245989dda@no-cancel.newsreader.com> from SOR contained
the following:
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>Will this be taken into account or are some users on this newsgroup in
>fantasy cloud cuckoo land and think a newbie should be able to write
>expert code ? .[/color]

Heck why not? It's not like your code is going to be controlling a 747

--
Geoff Berrow (put thecat out to email)
It's only Usenet, no one dies.
My opinions, not the committee's, mine.
Simple RFDs http://www.ckdog.co.uk/rfdmaker/

re: Script preview

<comp.lang.php , Samuel , lets.monroe@gmail.com>
<1122483879.665585.128140@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups .com>
<27 Jul 2005 10:04:39 -0700>
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> People here are usually nice.[/color]

But only if you kiss their smelly butts :-)
[color=blue]
> You insinuating they're in fantasy cloud
> cuckoo land and that they will probably slag silly your code is
> definitely *not* nice.[/color]

Its only usenet .
[color=blue]
> Just post it, be ready to react to the positive criticism and ignore
> the negative if there is such.[/color]

The ego wank type of users on here have already shown themselves .

Although I must admit some of them needed a bit of prodding :-)

But isnt it a true saying that to see underneath you have to scratch the
surface a little .

re: Script preview

<comp.lang.php , Geoff Berrow , blthecat@ckdog.co.uk>
<mdgfe1pd99rp3rcg9jf0enjfumuu0lr403@4ax.com>
<Wed, 27 Jul 2005 18:18:19 +0100>
[color=blue][color=green]
> >Will this be taken into account or are some users on this newsgroup in
> >fantasy cloud cuckoo land and think a newbie should be able to write
> >expert code ? .[/color]
>
> Heck why not? It's not like your code is going to be controlling a 747
>[/color]

Actually geoff by biggest worry is your going to steal my code try to
pass it off as your own :-))

re: Script preview

SOR wrote:
[color=blue]
> Tomorrow I will be asking for a script critique even though I know its
> going to get slagged silly .
>
> Being a php newbie means I can only write newbie code .
>
> Will this be taken into account or are some users on this newsgroup in
> fantasy cloud cuckoo land and think a newbie should be able to write
> expert code ? .[/color]

As long as:

1) you tell it like it is
2) you don't post 1000's of lines of code

I think it's reasonable to expect some sort of informed response.

If you haven't already done so, I'd suggest that you read up on standard
coding styles. The only widely used one I'm aware of for PHP is the PEAR
style guide (http://pear.php.net/manual/en/standards.php) and make sure
your code conforms.

HTH

C.

re: Script preview

<comp.lang.php , Colin McKinnon , colin.deletethis@andthis.mms3.com>
<dca5a9$1s7$2$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk>
<Thu, 28 Jul 2005 09:34:20 +0100>
[color=blue][color=green]
> > Being a php newbie means I can only write newbie code .
> >
> > Will this be taken into account or are some users on this newsgroup in
> > fantasy cloud cuckoo land and think a newbie should be able to write
> > expert code ? .[/color]
>
> As long as:
>
> 1) you tell it like it is
> 2) you don't post 1000's of lines of code
>
> I think it's reasonable to expect some sort of informed response.
>[/color]

I've already been given the www.php.net url on a number of occasions
even though like them I have it bookmarked :-)

The users who have answered my newbie questions without any of the crap
some of the others seem to enjoy so much will get listened too - but the
other fuckers will get scant regard .

re: Script preview

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> I've already been given the www.php.net url on a number of occasions
> even though like them I have it bookmarked :-)[/color]

I don't mind when people link to a specific function in the manual. It
answers the question quickly, and lets me find the answer myself - with a
definate place to find the answer. A general php url doesn't really help.

I've also been totally stuck, exhausting every possible search I can think
of, and tried turning to newsgroups for help - only to get RTFM. It's
frustrating I agree, particularly when you do find the answer it is dead
easy.

I jumped onto an IRC channel once asking a question, and got told to RTFM
quite rudely - so I jumped out and logged in with a different name. I
proceeded to answer everyones questions, including a question from the
person who told me to RTFM. It made me feel like a better person because I
didn't resort to the same no brainer RTFM. I answered his question, and
realised that his knowledge was actually very limited.

Someone's been saying "it's only usenet" - very true.

re: Script preview

<comp.lang.php , Michael Phipps ,
gravityspike_spamfree_@optusnet.com.au>
<42e962fd$0$1848$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au>
<Fri, 29 Jul 2005 08:58:07 +1000>
[color=blue][color=green]
> > I've already been given the www.php.net url on a number of occasions
> > even though like them I have it bookmarked :-)[/color]
>
> I don't mind when people link to a specific function in the manual. It
> answers the question quickly, and lets me find the answer myself - with a
> definate place to find the answer. A general php url doesn't really help.
>
> I've also been totally stuck, exhausting every possible search I can think
> of, and tried turning to newsgroups for help - only to get RTFM. It's
> frustrating I agree, particularly when you do find the answer it is dead
> easy.
>[/color]

Different skill levels will always clash .

The same questions being asked every so often really gets them off :-)

Although they must be pretty stupid if they dont expect questions about
php to be asked on a php newsgroup .