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Getting the word to conventional programmers

Cameron Laird
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#1: Jul 17 '05
*DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in
<URL: http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >.

Christopher Nelson
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#2: Jul 17 '05

re: Getting the word to conventional programmers


Hey, Jeff Hobbs got the last word. ;-)

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#3: Jul 17 '05

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That was a great article. I really enjoyed it. We need more like it.

Robert

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Cameron Laird wrote:[color=blue]
> *DevSource* profiles "The State of the Scripting Universe" in
> <URL: http://www.devsource.com/article2/0,1759,1778141,00.asp >.[/color]

It would have been nice to put in a blurb for some of the cool stuff
planned for 8.5. That way people could see that things are *happening*
in the Tcl world and Tcl is moving forward language wise.

That doesn't take away from the article though. It was just a thought.

Robert

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In article <1111613336.660577.241450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
<sigzero@gmail.com> wrote:
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Cameron Laird wrote:[color=blue]
> In article <1111613336.660577.241450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups .com>,
> <sigzero@gmail.com> wrote:
> .
> .
> .[color=green]
> >It would have been nice to put in a blurb for some of the cool stuff
> >planned for 8.5. That way people could see that things are[/color][/color]
*happening*[color=blue][color=green]
> >in the Tcl world and Tcl is moving forward language wise.
> >
> >That doesn't take away from the article though. It was just a[/color][/color]
thought.[color=blue]
> .
> .
> .
> Robert, though "just a thought", I want to say a few words in[/color]
response:[color=blue]
> you're wrong. Or, you're ambiguous: I think you're saying, "To[/color]
appro-[color=blue]
> priately infect readers with the enthusiasm for Tcl that you (and I)
> think they deserve to have, it is necessary to anticipate the[/color]
objection[color=blue]
> that Tcl is 'dormant' and convince them otherwise."
>
> Here's the problem: a magazine needs to be written for its readers,
> rather than its authors or any other actors (from a business stand-
> point, content ultimately is designed to serve advertisers, but that
> rather dreary reality is a distraction we'll ignore for now). Lynn's
> job was to profile the languages. To keep her scope manageable, she
> did not address the cultures of the different languages. As I under-
> stand her thoughts, she doesn't try to help the languages, but rather
> help the readers.
>
> It feels as though I'm hitting this tack of a point with a too-heavy
> sledgehammer. I sure don't want to offend you, Robert; I *do* want
> to take the opportunity to distinguish the different motivations[/color]
afoot[color=blue]
> here. While I think you already understand this, I'll make it[/color]
explicit:[color=blue]
> Lynn deserves our encouragement for her openness to ideas like use of
> scripting languages, not our censure for failing to go far enough.[/color]

The size of you hammer was okay with me. It takes a lot to offend me
and having delt with people from this group I know that most of the
stuff is constructive in nature anyway. : )

I did take the opportunity to submit the overall article to OSNews with
an extra link to the Tcl article.

Robert

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