\n doesn't work

I am writing a program, and I am using \n in double-quoted print statements,
which should give me a line break. It doesn't work. I'm running Apache 2.0
and PHP 5, with Mozilla Firefox as a browser. What is wrong?

re: \n doesn't work

Michael Bradley-Robbins wrote:[color=blue]
> I am writing a program, and I am using \n in double-quoted print statements,
> which should give me a line break. It doesn't work. I'm running Apache 2.0
> and PHP 5, with Mozilla Firefox as a browser. What is wrong?[/color]

And... you're not confusing \n <--> <br /> ?

Hans

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re: \n doesn't work

Michael Bradley-Robbins wrote:[color=blue]
> I am writing a program, and I am using \n in double-quoted print
> statements, which should give me a line break. It doesn't work. I'm
> running Apache 2.0 and PHP 5, with Mozilla Firefox as a browser. What
> is wrong?[/color]

Look at the source (view-source in your browser) or wrap the output in
<pre></pre> tags.


JW

re: \n doesn't work

Michael Bradley-Robbins wrote:
[color=blue]
> I am writing a program, and I am using \n in double-quoted print
> statements, which should give me a line break. It doesn't work. I'm
> running Apache 2.0 and PHP 5, with Mozilla Firefox as a browser. What
> is wrong?[/color]

This one needs to go in the FAQ list.

\n gives you a newline break in the data sent to the browser, so if you
select the view source option in your browser you'll see the source
does indeed have a linebreak where you are expecting it. However,
linebreaks are ignored in HTML. To create a line break in HTML which is
rendered in the browser, you need the <br> tag.

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re: \n doesn't work

Chris Hope wrote:
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> Michael Bradley-Robbins wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I am writing a program, and I am using \n in double-quoted print
>> statements, which should give me a line break. It doesn't work. I'm
>> running Apache 2.0 and PHP 5, with Mozilla Firefox as a browser. What
>> is wrong?[/color]
>
> This one needs to go in the FAQ list.[/color]

of an HTML group? I am sure it is. :-D.
[color=blue]
> \n gives you a newline break in the data sent to the browser, so if you
> select the view source option in your browser you'll see the source
> does indeed have a linebreak where you are expecting it. However,
> linebreaks are ignored in HTML. To create a line break in HTML which is
> rendered in the browser, you need the <br> tag.[/color]

Depends on what you want, it could be that you don't *want* the br element.

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re: \n doesn't work

John Bokma wrote:
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> Chris Hope wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Michael Bradley-Robbins wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I am writing a program, and I am using \n in double-quoted print
>>> statements, which should give me a line break. It doesn't work. I'm
>>> running Apache 2.0 and PHP 5, with Mozilla Firefox as a browser.
>>> What is wrong?[/color]
>>
>> This one needs to go in the FAQ list.[/color]
>
> of an HTML group? I am sure it is. :-D.[/color]

Heh - yes it's basic fundamental HTML skills we're talking about here.
Although I've seen this same question asked here a few times now...
[color=blue][color=green]
>> \n gives you a newline break in the data sent to the browser, so if
>> you select the view source option in your browser you'll see the
>> source does indeed have a linebreak where you are expecting it.
>> However, linebreaks are ignored in HTML. To create a line break in
>> HTML which is rendered in the browser, you need the <br> tag.[/color]
>
> Depends on what you want, it could be that you don't *want* the br
> element.[/color]

Very true. I was making an assumption based on the same experience other
people have had when posting here about this problem. Plus it seems
very unlikely that print "\n" does not output a newline break ;)

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re: \n doesn't work

Here's something that may help - especially if you have a bunch of
\n(s) in a database somewhere that you are generating dynamic pages
with (that you would like to see the line breaks in).

http://us2.php.net/nl2br

This little baby will insert a <BR> before any \n in whatever variable
or string you pass to it. I use this for pages where users get to type
info into a field and hit \n\n to create a new paragraph. When they
submit it to a database, it is raw, but when I pull it out, I pass it
through nl2br and it adds the <BR>(s) for me.

Not sure if that's what you are looking for, but it's worth saying just
in case.

Shane

re: \n doesn't work

Chris Hope wrote:
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> people have had when posting here about this problem. Plus it seems
> very unlikely that print "\n" does not output a newline break ;)[/color]

Yup, true.

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re: \n doesn't work

Chris Hope <blackhole@electrictoolbox.com> wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> This one needs to go in the FAQ list.[/color]
>>
>> of an HTML group? I am sure it is. :-D.[/color]
>
> Heh - yes it's basic fundamental HTML skills we're talking about here.
> Although I've seen this same question asked here a few times now...[/color]

It already is (kind of):

msgid: 42289b17$0$28975$c5fe704e@news6.xs4all.nl
Subject: [FAQ] HTML is trunctating PHP text

Take a look at the source (the first place you should look to see what
PHP is actually doing) and you will see it's all there as

re: \n doesn't work

Chris Hope <blackhole@electrictoolbox.com> wrote:[color=blue]
>
>Very true. I was making an assumption based on the same experience other
>people have had when posting here about this problem. Plus it seems
>very unlikely that print "\n" does not output a newline break ;)[/color]

It DOES output a newline break. Do a View->Source to prove it.

The issue is that newlines in HTML are just plain old white space, and are
removed when the page is rendered.

To get a line break rendered, you need to output a <br> tag.
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re: \n doesn't work

Tim Roberts wrote:
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> Chris Hope <blackhole@electrictoolbox.com> wrote:[color=green]
>>
>>Very true. I was making an assumption based on the same experience
>>other people have had when posting here about this problem. Plus it
>>seems very unlikely that print "\n" does not output a newline break ;)[/color]
>
> It DOES output a newline break. Do a View->Source to prove it.
>
> The issue is that newlines in HTML are just plain old white space, and
> are removed when the page is rendered.
>
> To get a line break rendered, you need to output a <br> tag.[/color]

I know that, and that's exactly what I posted in my reply to the OP ;)

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re: \n doesn't work

Tim Roberts wrote:
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> To get a line break rendered, you need to output a <br> tag.[/color]

Depends :-D. In a <pre> it *does* count, and there are some other places
where it counts (sometimes in old browsers at unexpected places).

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