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DB2 Crushes Oracle RAC on TPC-C benchmark

Mark A
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#1: Jul 19 '05
DB2 UDB V8.2, eServer p595, and TotalStorage FASt900 published an amazing
TPC-C result of 3,210,540 tpmC at a price/performance of $5.19/tpmC,
demonstrating 2.7x better performance than Oracle RAC. Never before has any
database vendor taken such a decisive leadership position in this benchmark.
In fact, this new DB2 result leads the previous record by a margin wider
than the top results of Oracle and Microsoft combined!

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data...ks/111704.html



DA Morgan
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re: DB2 Crushes Oracle RAC on TPC-C benchmark


Mark A wrote:
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> DB2 UDB V8.2, eServer p595, and TotalStorage FASt900 published an amazing
> TPC-C result of 3,210,540 tpmC at a price/performance of $5.19/tpmC,
> demonstrating 2.7x better performance than Oracle RAC. Never before has any
> database vendor taken such a decisive leadership position in this benchmark.
> In fact, this new DB2 result leads the previous record by a margin wider
> than the top results of Oracle and Microsoft combined!
>
> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data...ks/111704.html[/color]

What a laugh. Look at the small print at the bottom of the page:

DB2 UDB on IBM eServer p595 (64-way Power5 1.9GHz)

Oracle RAC 10g on HP Integrity rx5670 Cluster 64P (16 x 4-way Intel
Itanium2 6M 1.5GHz)

Is this a comparison of the database products DB2 UDB against Oracle or
the p595 chips at 1.9GHz against the inferior Itanium2 1.5GHz chips.

If IBM has to bend over this far to be faster it deserves to be kicked
in the posterior with a boot.

Shame on IBM for such pathetic nonsense. Shame on you for posting it.
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Daniel A. Morgan
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Mark A
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re: DB2 Crushes Oracle RAC on TPC-C benchmark


"DA Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message
news:41f1c249$1_1@127.0.0.1...[color=blue]
>
> What a laugh. Look at the small print at the bottom of the page:
>
> DB2 UDB on IBM eServer p595 (64-way Power5 1.9GHz)
>
> Oracle RAC 10g on HP Integrity rx5670 Cluster 64P (16 x 4-way Intel
> Itanium2 6M 1.5GHz)
>
> Is this a comparison of the database products DB2 UDB against Oracle or
> the p595 chips at 1.9GHz against the inferior Itanium2 1.5GHz chips.
>
> If IBM has to bend over this far to be faster it deserves to be kicked
> in the posterior with a boot.
>
> Shame on IBM for such pathetic nonsense. Shame on you for posting it.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan[/color]

If TPC benchmarks are pathetic nonsense, you will have to explain why Oracle
is so heavily involved with the TPC organization. Many Oracle employees are
on TPC committees, and some are in charge of those committees.

www.tpc.org
http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp

http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data...ks/111704.html

Shame on you for being in denial of an independent benchmark organization
that is strongly supported by Oracle Corporation.


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re: DB2 Crushes Oracle RAC on TPC-C benchmark


Mark A wrote:
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> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:41f1c249$1_1@127.0.0.1...
>[color=green]
>>What a laugh. Look at the small print at the bottom of the page:
>>
>>DB2 UDB on IBM eServer p595 (64-way Power5 1.9GHz)
>>
>>Oracle RAC 10g on HP Integrity rx5670 Cluster 64P (16 x 4-way Intel
>>Itanium2 6M 1.5GHz)
>>
>>Is this a comparison of the database products DB2 UDB against Oracle or
>>the p595 chips at 1.9GHz against the inferior Itanium2 1.5GHz chips.
>>
>>If IBM has to bend over this far to be faster it deserves to be kicked
>>in the posterior with a boot.
>>
>>Shame on IBM for such pathetic nonsense. Shame on you for posting it.
>>--
>>Daniel A. Morgan[/color]
>
>
> If TPC benchmarks are pathetic nonsense, you will have to explain why Oracle
> is so heavily involved with the TPC organization. Many Oracle employees are
> on TPC committees, and some are in charge of those committees.
>
> www.tpc.org
> http://www.tpc.org/tpcc/results/tpcc_perf_results.asp
>
> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data...ks/111704.html
>
> Shame on you for being in denial of an independent benchmark organization
> that is strongly supported by Oracle Corporation.[/color]

Benchmarks are benchmarks. TPC didn't choose the ones to compare: IBM did.

Do you really think a Power5 chip is equivalent to a slower Itanium2?
Answering "yes" might help DB2 but I'll put money on the fact that those
nice hardware people would scream things at you not generally said in
polite company if you are claiming that is IBM's official position about
one of its best chipset.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu
(replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)


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Mark A
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#5: Jul 19 '05

re: DB2 Crushes Oracle RAC on TPC-C benchmark


"DA Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message
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> Do you really think a Power5 chip is equivalent to a slower Itanium2?
> Answering "yes" might help DB2 but I'll put money on the fact that those
> nice hardware people would scream things at you not generally said in
> polite company if you are claiming that is IBM's official position about
> one of its best chipset.
> --
> Daniel A. Morgan[/color]

If TPC benchmarks are pathetic nonsense, you will have to explain why Oracle
is so heavily involved with the TPC organization. Many Oracle employees are
on TPC committees, and some are in charge of those committees.


DA Morgan
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re: DB2 Crushes Oracle RAC on TPC-C benchmark


Mark A wrote:
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> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message
> news:41f1c5d5$1_1@127.0.0.1...
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>>Do you really think a Power5 chip is equivalent to a slower Itanium2?
>>Answering "yes" might help DB2 but I'll put money on the fact that those
>>nice hardware people would scream things at you not generally said in
>>polite company if you are claiming that is IBM's official position about
>>one of its best chipset.
>>--
>>Daniel A. Morgan[/color]
>
>
> If TPC benchmarks are pathetic nonsense, you will have to explain why Oracle
> is so heavily involved with the TPC organization. Many Oracle employees are
> on TPC committees, and some are in charge of those committees.[/color]

Lets try this again and I will use very small words.

This isn't about TPC.
This isn't about the products
It is about Power5 <> Itanium2
It is about AIX <> Unknown

Try addressing the issue I have repeatedly raised rather than posturing
on the value or lack thereof of TPC.
--
Daniel A. Morgan
University of Washington
damorgan@x.washington.edu
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