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#1: Oct 5 '09
I hope I can explain this correctly.

BACKGROUND:
My office has a local network. We use a windows server 2003(small business server i think) computer to handle our domain.
So all of our employees computers are members of the domain.
We can ping them all. NSLOOKUP of the PC name works. NSLOOKUP of the ipaddress works (i had the reverse pointer records created)
On the server computer, we can open up the DHCP tool and see all the computers.
On the server computer, we can open up the DNS tool and see all the computers.
That all works fine.

However, we bring a few devices onto the network that are NOT part of the domain. (Some windowsCE and linux PCs) These computers are just part of workgroups. Now generally, things work fine. However you can ping these PCs, but not use NSLOOPUP on any of them (name OR ip).
When we open up the DHCP and DNS snapins on the server computer, ONLY the domain computers (active directory computers) show up in the dns and dhcp. The non-domain computers ONLY show up in the dhcp.
This seems to cause a lot of problems in terms of propagation and correcting of info on the employee PCs. It falls down to using the WINS control and netbios over tcp i think. Leaving entries cached in funny places (nbtstat, ARP, etc) and not getting the correct entries.

QUESTION:
Is there anyway to get the DHCP and DNS server instances on the server computer to "sync" so to speak? So that the computers that are not part of the domain/active directory will be available via the dns server.
Specifically, I am looking for something that can be done on the server computer to correct this. Although, if someone knows the settings to change on windowsCE or CoLinux, I would happily take any advice on that as well.

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#2: Oct 13 '09

re: DNS server for non-active domain computers


I'm at a bit of a loss, so I'm bumping this back up to the top.
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#3: 3 Weeks Ago

re: DNS server for non-active domain computers


Do you have samba running on your linux box? I don't know if WindowsCE can be a part of a domain other then talking to the DHCP server and stuff like that. The system isn't that smart.
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re: DNS server for non-active domain computers


We are specifically trying to keep them OFF the domain.
But it would be nice to do an nslookup of the non-domain computers, instead of relying on netbios to do the name resolution
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Ohhh, I didn't catch that.

I've never tried to do that... so not sure how to help. :(
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Originally Posted by RedSon View Post

Ohhh, I didn't catch that.

I've never tried to do that... so not sure how to help. :(

Yeah us either. We're pretty certain it a "we set this stuff up wrong" on windows server. But since none of us are experts with it, or had even really done it before, we're pretty clueless
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Can you make your non domain machines just have static IP addresses and then ask the domain controller to ignore them? Or perhaps you can put them outside your network behind a little SOHO router?
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We need access to them at all times from the domain computers when they are here(so SOHO wouldn't work) and they travel to other networks, so can't give them static IPs
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re: DNS server for non-active domain computers


Well you are just crazy talkin'

I say "good day" to you sir! Good Day!!
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