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Computer Language Popularity Trend

xah@xahlee.org
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#1: Sep 27 '06
This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.

http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

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#2: Sep 27 '06

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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
Hi Xah (Sigma) Lee,

What's the purpose for cross posting this to several newsgroups? It is
interesting research, I suppose, if you're into that sort of thing
(numbers for the sake of numbers); but what does it have to do with us?

Regards,
Jordan

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In article <1159326300.765320.131260@d34g2000cwd.googlegroups .com>,
xah@xahlee.org says...
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
While this "survey" is clearly off-topic and nonsensical, the site is at
least entertaining in one respect. Anybody who can accuse others of
intolerance, then describe a city as "sordid...by the standards of
RIGHTEOUS MEN" [emphasis added], and THEN include pages full of pictures
of porn stars certainly has a personality anyway!

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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
>
http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html
>
Xah
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These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
information about it on the internet. When someone can google an answer
to his question, he's not going to start a thread. Thus activity in the
newsgroup is bound to fall over time following a peak, even as interest
in the language remains strong.

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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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This page gives a visual
Ah, it's been a while since I had a chance to plonk you.





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#6: Sep 27 '06

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MonkeeSage wrote:

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What's the purpose for cross posting this to several newsgroups?
He's a troll.





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These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
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postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
information about it on the internet. When someone can google an answer
to his question, he's not going to start a thread. Thus activity in the
newsgroup is bound to fall over time following a peak, even as interest
in the language remains strong.
>
The numbers are also affected by accessibility to the newsgroups, you
know, the eternal September effect...

Ben
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benben wrote:
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>These charts are a rather misleading I think. The number of newsgroup
>postings for a language is inversely proportional to the amount of the
>information about it on the internet. When someone can google an answer
>to his question, he's not going to start a thread. Thus activity in the
>newsgroup is bound to fall over time following a peak, even as interest
>in the language remains strong.
>>
>
The numbers are also affected by accessibility to the newsgroups, you
know, the eternal September effect...
>
Ben
I'm not sure everyone takes the time to search the internet for an
answer - at least I see a lot of questions which could be easily
answered by a quick google search. But the point is well taken - some
people do.

I would also argue that the numbers are affected by the complexity of
the language (the more complex a language, the more likely people will
have questions about it), other good resources on the net (i.e. forum
sites with lots of traffic), the number of good books on the subject,
availibiltiy of adult education classes, which leg my dog decided to
lift this morning, the color of the next car which pulls in to the
parking lot and a bunch of other things I haven't even though of.

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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript
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jmcgill wrote:
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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
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This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript
Hasn't it annoyed enough groups already?

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#11: Sep 28 '06

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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
What a pile of crud.

keep whacking the mole buddy!

regards
Andy Little

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jjds101@yahoo.com wrote:
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Hasn't it annoyed enough groups already?
It had not occurred to me that it was a nuisance. I thought poor soul
was genuinely trying to do an empirical study based on usenet volume.

Of course, that's not a sound research method.

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jmcgill said the following on 9/27/2006 1:31 PM:
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xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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>This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
>indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
>comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
>popularity trends.
>
This would make a lot more sense if it included
comp.lang.java.programmer instead of comp.lang.javascript
Yeah, everybody knows that Java is a programming language and Javascript
isn't, right?

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In comp.lang.c jmcgill <jmcgill@email.arizona.eduwrote:
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It had not occurred to me that it was a nuisance. I thought poor soul
was genuinely trying to do an empirical study based on usenet volume.
Only because (I presume) you haven't seen Xah Lee's drivel posted
previously. The charm wears thin rather quickly.

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Christopher Benson-Manica wrote:
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In comp.lang.c jmcgill <jmcgill@email.arizona.eduwrote:
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>It had not occurred to me that it was a nuisance. I thought poor soul
>was genuinely trying to do an empirical study based on usenet volume.
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Only because (I presume) you haven't seen Xah Lee's drivel posted
previously. The charm wears thin rather quickly.
>
Boy, I never knew he posted his STUFF in the PHP newsgroups. He has a
bad reputation in the Java newsgroups because of his, what would you
call it, megalomaniacal view.. Guess he likes to be ignored in more than
one language group.

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Or one might deduce that the higher the curve, the more likely the
languge really sucks, and more people need lots of help and discussion
of really basic things.

For example, a good 25% of the "C" related discussions seem to be about
forgetting to allocate memoiry for a char * variable. Another 20%
regarding forgetting to read the ending "\n" with scanf().

Another 25% regarding seg faults due to the many ways of getting these
in C if you don't know exactly what you're doing.

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#17: Sep 29 '06

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The graphs remind me of the Staples TV commercial that shows in the
U.S. To save money the office drone has a cat sitting there
paw-painting his presentation pie charts. Oy...

xah@xahlee.org wrote:
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
>
http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

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On 26 Sep 2006 20:05:00 -0700, I waved a wand and this message
magically appears in front of xah@xahlee.org:
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This page gives a visual report of computer languages's popularity, as
indicated by their traffic level in newsgroups. This is not a
comprehensive or fair survey, but does give some indications of
popularity trends.
Folks, just kf him and have done with it.
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