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javainfo
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#1: Mar 9 '06
How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?


Randy Webb
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re: IFRAME & AJAX


javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:[color=blue]
> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?[/color]

Sure.

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#3: Mar 9 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Randy Webb wrote:[color=blue]
> javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:[color=green]
>> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?[/color]
>
> Sure.
>[/color]

AJAX != refresh
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
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#4: Mar 9 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Gale wrote:
[color=blue]
> Randy Webb wrote:[color=green]
>> javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:[color=darkred]
>>> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?[/color]
>> Sure.[/color]
>
> AJAX != refresh[/color]

Nonsense.


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#5: Mar 9 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=blue]
> Gale wrote:
>
>[color=green]
>>Randy Webb wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:
>>>
>>>>How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?
>>>
>>>Sure.[/color]
>>
>>AJAX != refresh[/color]
>
>
> Nonsense.[/color]

Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?

Or was that Comet?
Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
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#6: Mar 10 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Tony wrote:
[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=green]
>> Gale wrote:[color=darkred]
>>>Randy Webb wrote:
>>>> javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:
>>>>> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?
>>>> Sure.
>>> AJAX != refresh[/color]
>> Nonsense.[/color]
>
> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>
> Or was that Comet?[/color]

I beg your pardon?


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Randy Webb
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re: IFRAME & AJAX


Tony said the following on 3/9/2006 1:39 PM:[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=green]
>> Gale wrote:
>>
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Randy Webb wrote:
>>>
>>>> javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:
>>>>
>>>>> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?
>>>>
>>>> Sure.
>>>
>>> AJAX != refresh[/color]
>>
>>
>> Nonsense.[/color]
>
> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>
> Or was that Comet?[/color]

I think it was Borax.

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re: IFRAME & AJAX


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 3/9/2006 8:03 PM:[color=blue]
> Tony wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Gale wrote:
>>>> Randy Webb wrote:
>>>>> javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:
>>>>>> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?
>>>>> Sure.
>>>> AJAX != refresh
>>> Nonsense.[/color]
>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>
>> Or was that Comet?[/color]
>
> I beg your pardon?[/color]

You need a sense of humor Thomas.

But, Ajax was a British warship in World War II

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Tony
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#9: Mar 10 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Randy Webb wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>
>>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>
>>> Or was that Comet?[/color]
>>
>>
>> I beg your pardon?[/color]
>
>
> You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]

:)
[color=blue]
>
> But, Ajax was a British warship in World War II[/color]

What amuses me is the obvious (at least to me) INTENT behind Jesse
coming up with "AJAX", after the previously enjoyed popularity of "SOAP"

So, what's next? CASCADE? (you figure it out...)

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
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#10: Mar 10 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Randy Webb wrote:
[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 3/9/2006 8:03 PM:[color=green]
>> Tony wrote:[color=darkred]
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>> Gale wrote:
>>>>> Randy Webb wrote:
>>>>>> javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:
>>>>>>> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?
>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>> AJAX != refresh
>>>> Nonsense.
>>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>
>>> Or was that Comet?[/color]
>> I beg your pardon?[/color]
>
> You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]

Believe it or not: I /have/ a great deal of humor (and that does not mean
transpiration). However, that does no help you if you do not understand
the joke. Hence my question.
[color=blue]
> But, Ajax was a British warship in World War II[/color]

Among other things :)


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Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
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#11: Mar 10 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Tony wrote:
[color=blue]
> Randy Webb wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>>
>>>> Or was that Comet?
>>> I beg your pardon?[/color]
>> You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]
>
> :)
>[color=green]
>>
>> But, Ajax was a British warship in World War II[/color]
>
> What amuses me is the obvious (at least to me) INTENT behind Jesse
> coming up with "AJAX", after the previously enjoyed popularity of
> "SOAP" [...][/color]

Ahhh -- got it now :)


\V/ PointedEars
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re: IFRAME & AJAX


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 3/10/2006 2:40 PM:[color=blue]
> Randy Webb wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 3/9/2006 8:03 PM:[color=darkred]
>>> Tony wrote:
>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>> Gale wrote:
>>>>>> Randy Webb wrote:
>>>>>>> javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:
>>>>>>>> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?
>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>> AJAX != refresh
>>>>> Nonsense.
>>>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>>
>>>> Or was that Comet?
>>> I beg your pardon?[/color]
>> You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]
>
> Believe it or not: I /have/ a great deal of humor (and that does not mean
> transpiration). However, that does no help you if you do not understand
> the joke. Hence my question.[/color]

Fair enough. A lot of that joke would lose it's implications when
translated :)


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Randy Webb
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re: IFRAME & AJAX


Tony said the following on 3/10/2006 1:26 PM:[color=blue]
> Randy Webb wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>
>>>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>>
>>>> Or was that Comet?
>>>
>>>
>>> I beg your pardon?[/color]
>>
>>
>> You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]
>
> :)
>[color=green]
>>
>> But, Ajax was a British warship in World War II[/color]
>
> What amuses me is the obvious (at least to me) INTENT behind Jesse
> coming up with "AJAX", after the previously enjoyed popularity of "SOAP"
>
> So, what's next? CASCADE? (you figure it out...)
>[/color]

What amuses me the most is how most of the people who come posting "I
want AJAX" don't have the first clue what it really is. It's a term some
board room pundit heard and they just had to have it. Then, at the
country club they can brag "Yeah, we use AJAX on our site".

Too bad I use more reliable methods :)

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#14: Mar 10 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>AJAX != refresh
>>>>>
>>>>>Nonsense.
>>>>
>>>>Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>>
>>>>Or was that Comet?
>>>
>>>I beg your pardon?[/color]
>>
>>You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]
>
>
> Believe it or not: I /have/ a great deal of humor (and that does not mean
> transpiration). However, that does no help you if you do not understand
> the joke. Hence my question.[/color]

Ajax = a brand of scouring cleanser sold in the US.
Comet = another brand scouring cleanser sold in the US.
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#15: Mar 10 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 20:40:38 +0100, Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
[color=blue]
> Randy Webb wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn said the following on 3/9/2006 8:03 PM:[color=darkred]
>>> Tony wrote:
>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>> Gale wrote:
>>>>>> Randy Webb wrote:
>>>>>>> javainfo said the following on 3/9/2006 5:49 AM:
>>>>>>>> How can i refresh IFRAME and load data through AJAX?
>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>> AJAX != refresh
>>>>> Nonsense.
>>>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>>
>>>> Or was that Comet?
>>> I beg your pardon?[/color]
>>
>> You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]
>
> Believe it or not: I /have/ a great deal of humor (and that does not
> mean transpiration). However, that does no help you if you do not
> understand the joke. Hence my question.
>[color=green]
>> But, Ajax was a British warship in World War II[/color]
>
> Among other things :)[/color]

I'd have to assume the warship got its name from the Greek warrior of the
same name... I have no idea where he got his name.

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#16: Mar 11 '06

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Ivan Marsh <annoyed@you.now> writes:
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> I'd have to assume the warship got its name from the Greek warrior of the
> same name... I have no idea where he got his name.[/color]

His mother?
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#17: Mar 11 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Tony wrote:[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=green][color=darkred]
>>>>>>> AJAX != refresh
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nonsense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or was that Comet?
>>>>
>>>> I beg your pardon?
>>>
>>> You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]
>>
>>
>> Believe it or not: I /have/ a great deal of humor (and that does not mean
>> transpiration). However, that does no help you if you do not understand
>> the joke. Hence my question.[/color]
>
> Ajax = a brand of scouring cleanser sold in the US.[/color]

Ajax is also sold in the UK. It would appear that Comet is not.
[color=blue]
> Comet = another brand scouring cleanser sold in the US.[/color]


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Danny Stolle
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#18: Mar 17 '06

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Hi,

Well 'to AJAX or not to AJAX' that is the question I was asking my self.
Do I realy need AJAX and when I saw a script developed with javascript
and that the script created an ActiveX object, my heart stopped! After
being defribillated :-) I thought of remote scripting using an IFRAME,
after all I read a lot about how to do this and I tried to give it a shot.

Well success granted and I got my first (not final yet) remote
scripting; the alternative AJAX without using AJAX. Entering a postcode,
onblur the textfield, the server script grabs the data from the database
and pushes it back to the client-script. Wow the client page didn't even
blinc.

Quite nice, need ... cewl... But euhm, now I am biting my lip.

Remote scripting using IFRAME works, is quite nice, but surely there are
lots of disadvantages using the technique. Can somebody point me out the
disadvantages working with the IFRAME methodology? What are the drawbacks?

Thanx in advance.

Danny

Randy Webb wrote:[color=blue]
> Tony said the following on 3/10/2006 1:26 PM:
>[color=green]
>> Randy Webb wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>>>>
>>>>> Wasn't Ajax advertising a new, refreshing scent?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or was that Comet?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I beg your pardon?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> You need a sense of humor Thomas.[/color]
>>
>>
>> :)
>>[color=darkred]
>>>
>>> But, Ajax was a British warship in World War II[/color]
>>
>>
>> What amuses me is the obvious (at least to me) INTENT behind Jesse
>> coming up with "AJAX", after the previously enjoyed popularity of "SOAP"
>>
>> So, what's next? CASCADE? (you figure it out...)
>>[/color]
>
> What amuses me the most is how most of the people who come posting "I
> want AJAX" don't have the first clue what it really is. It's a term some
> board room pundit heard and they just had to have it. Then, at the
> country club they can brag "Yeah, we use AJAX on our site".
>
> Too bad I use more reliable methods :)
>[/color]
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#19: Mar 17 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


hi !

can you post here your example with the activeX ?

thank you

cp


Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn
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#20: Mar 17 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


cp wrote:
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> can you post here your example with the activeX ?[/color]

<URL:http://jibbering.com/2002/4/httprequest.html>


HTH

PointedEars
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#21: Mar 18 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:08:32 +0100, Danny Stolle <noTh@nx.org> wrote:
[color=blue]
>Remote scripting using IFRAME works, is quite nice, but surely there are
>lots of disadvantages using the technique. Can somebody point me out the
>disadvantages working with the IFRAME methodology? What are the drawbacks?[/color]

In general the IFRAME method is superior, it's general flaws are in
the area of accessibility, hidden frames aren't completely hidden and
can confuse users, and the higher complexity. The advantages of
faster downloads and incremental activity normally outweigh them for
data intensive systems.

Jim.
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#22: Mar 18 '06

re: IFRAME & AJAX


Danny Stolle said the following on 3/17/2006 2:08 PM:[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> Well 'to AJAX or not to AJAX' that is the question I was asking my self.[/color]

If you have to ask yourself that, you typically don't need it.
[color=blue]
> Do I realy need AJAX and when I saw a script developed with javascript
> and that the script created an ActiveX object, my heart stopped! After
> being defribillated :-) I thought of remote scripting using an IFRAME,
> after all I read a lot about how to do this and I tried to give it a shot.[/color]

Remote scripting with IFrames has been around for almost a decade. It's
very reliable.
[color=blue]
> Well success granted and I got my first (not final yet) remote
> scripting; the alternative AJAX without using AJAX. Entering a postcode,
> onblur the textfield, the server script grabs the data from the database
> and pushes it back to the client-script. Wow the client page didn't even
> blinc.[/color]

onblur? Don't use onblur, use onchange.
[color=blue]
> Quite nice, need ... cewl... But euhm, now I am biting my lip.[/color]

Stop, biting your lip hurts after a while.
[color=blue]
> Remote scripting using IFRAME works, is quite nice, but surely there are
> lots of disadvantages using the technique. Can somebody point me out the
> disadvantages working with the IFRAME methodology? What are the drawbacks?[/color]

Lack of IFrame support.
Lack of Scripting support.
Maybe lack of cross-frame scripting support.

Of all the options available, IFrame scripting is the most widely
supported/reliable method there is though.
[color=blue]
> Thanx in advance.[/color]

Thanks for not top-posting in the future.

And thanks for using a decent spell checker in the future as well.

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