Firefox, NN but not IE???

Hi,

I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in Explorer...why
not? What to change? Thank you!
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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN wrote :[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in Explorer...why
> not? What to change? Thank you![/color]

Maybe it would be a nice idea to first remove the CSS errors and the js
errors too.

Gérard
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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN wrote:
[color=blue]
> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in Explorer...why
> not? What to change? Thank you![/color]

The Magic 8-Ball^W^W^W JavaScript Console says: "You are not declaring your
variables. You should declare them using the `var' keyword."

<URL:http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_43>

"Does not work" is a useless error description [psf 4.11]. And I am not
particularly inclined to help someone who is abusing IANA's[1] example.com
domain anyway; sending mail to abuse@individual.net is something that
crosses my mind instead.

<URL:http://www.interhack.net/pubs/munging-harmful/>
<URL:http://news.individual.net/rules.php>


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[1] <URL:http://www.iana.org/>

re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

Lee wrote:
[color=blue]
> roN said:[color=green]
>>
>>Hi,
>>
>>I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>>It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in Explorer...why
>>not? What to change? Thank you![/color]
>
> "but not in Explorer" isn't enough information for me to want to bother to
> look
> at it. Can you do better?[/color]

yes, sorry, okay here we go:
The image changes its size when resizing the browser good in Firefox but not
in IE. In IE there's just no image displayed, why not? Thank you!

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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
[color=blue]
> roN wrote:
>[color=green]
>> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>> Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you![/color]
>
> The Magic 8-Ball^W^W^W JavaScript Console says: "You are not declaring
> your
> variables. You should declare them using the `var' keyword."[/color]

I couldn't find that javascript validator... :( can you please post its url?
Thank you!
[color=blue]
> <URL:http://jibbering.com/faq/#FAQ4_43>
>
> "Does not work" is a useless error description [psf 4.11]. And I am not
> particularly inclined to help someone who is abusing IANA's[1] example.com
> domain anyway; sending mail to abuse@individual.net is something that
> crosses my mind instead.[/color]

Yes, I appologize, it's like that:The image changes its size when resizing
the browser good in Firefox but not
in IE. In IE there's just no image displayed, why not? Thank you!

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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

Gérard Talbot wrote:
[color=blue]
> roN wrote :[color=green]
>> Hi,
>>
>> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>> Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you![/color]
>
> Maybe it would be a nice idea to first remove the CSS errors and the js
> errors too.[/color]
Okay, I removed the CSS and HTML ones but I'm looking for the Javascript
ones, that's why I asked my question...
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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN said the following on 1/28/2006 3:28 PM:[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>[color=green]
>> roN wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>>> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>>> Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you![/color]
>> The Magic 8-Ball^W^W^W JavaScript Console says: "You are not declaring
>> your
>> variables. You should declare them using the `var' keyword."[/color]
>
> I couldn't find that javascript validator... :( can you please post its url?
> Thank you![/color]

Tools>Web Development>Javascript Console in Firefox.

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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

Randy Webb wrote:
[color=blue]
> roN said the following on 1/28/2006 3:28 PM:[color=green]
>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> roN wrote:
>>>
>>>> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>>>> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>>>> Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you!
>>> The Magic 8-Ball^W^W^W JavaScript Console says: "You are not declaring
>>> your
>>> variables. You should declare them using the `var' keyword."[/color]
>>
>> I couldn't find that javascript validator... :( can you please post its
>> url? Thank you![/color]
>
> Tools>Web Development>Javascript Console in Firefox.[/color]

Hm, it returns only css errors but
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...usermedium=all
shows that everything is okay so I don't really know if I can trust this
'Javascript' Console...

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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN <NOspam@example.com> wrote:
[color=blue]
> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:[color=green]
> > [...] And I am not particularly inclined to help someone who is
> > abusing IANA's[1] example.com domain anyway; sending mail to
> > abuse@individual.net is something that crosses my mind instead.[/color][/color]

[x] done
[x] score adjusted


PointedEars

re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN wrote:
[color=blue]
> Randy Webb wrote:
>[color=green]
>> roN said the following on 1/28/2006 3:28 PM:[color=darkred]
>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>
>>>> roN wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>>>>> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>>>>> Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you!
>>>> The Magic 8-Ball^W^W^W JavaScript Console says: "You are not declaring
>>>> your
>>>> variables. You should declare them using the `var' keyword."
>>>
>>> I couldn't find that javascript validator... :( can you please post its
>>> url? Thank you![/color]
>>
>> Tools>Web Development>Javascript Console in Firefox.[/color]
>
> Hm, it returns only css errors but
>[/color]
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...usermedium=all[color=blue]
> shows that everything is okay so I don't really know if I can trust this
> 'Javascript' Console...[/color]

No more hints? :(
Thank you!
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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN wrote:[color=blue]
> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...usermedium=all[color=green]
> > shows that everything is okay so I don't really know if I can trust this
> > 'Javascript' Console...[/color]
>
> No more hints? :([/color]

It works (means it displays the same layout) under FF 1.5 and IE 6.0

Did you fix it? Or what exactly your problem?

P.S. Also why do you need images for such plain buttons? You could use
styling right on links. Just a suggestion.

re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN said the following on 1/29/2006 2:44 PM:[color=blue]
> roN wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Randy Webb wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> roN said the following on 1/28/2006 3:28 PM:
>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> roN wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>>>>>> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>>>>>> Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you!
>>>>> The Magic 8-Ball^W^W^W JavaScript Console says: "You are not declaring
>>>>> your
>>>>> variables. You should declare them using the `var' keyword."
>>>> I couldn't find that javascript validator... :( can you please post its
>>>> url? Thank you!
>>> Tools>Web Development>Javascript Console in Firefox.[/color]
>> Hm, it returns only css errors but
>>[/color]
> http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...usermedium=all[color=green]
>> shows that everything is okay so I don't really know if I can trust this
>> 'Javascript' Console...[/color]
>
> No more hints? :([/color]

OK, here is one:

If jigsaw doesn't report an error.
Mozilla reports an error.

Trust Mozilla. After all, it is the one that has to *display* the
document and if it says it doesn't like something, then bet it doesn't
like it.
[color=blue]
> Thank you![/color]

Welcome.


Besides, what does "not in IE" mean? Explain the error because saying it
"doesn't work" is about as useful towards finding a solution as me
saying "It's in your code" is useful as an answer.

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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

VK wrote:
[color=blue]
>
> roN wrote:[color=green]
>>[/color][/color]
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...usermedium=all[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>> > shows that everything is okay so I don't really know if I can trust
>> > this 'Javascript' Console...[/color]
>>
>> No more hints? :([/color]
>
> It works (means it displays the same layout) under FF 1.5 and IE 6.0
>
> Did you fix it? Or what exactly your problem?[/color]

No, see the image on the right side (the gradient) in FF 1.5? it is gonns be
resized if you're resizing your browser window... but IE 6.0 doesn't show
it at all... :(
[color=blue]
>
> P.S. Also why do you need images for such plain buttons? You could use
> styling right on links. Just a suggestion.[/color]

No, I can't, check what it's doing when you press the mouse button...how
could I do that with CSS?
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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

Randy Webb wrote:
[color=blue]
> roN said the following on 1/29/2006 2:44 PM:[color=green]
>> roN wrote:
>>[color=darkred]
>>> Randy Webb wrote:
>>>
>>>> roN said the following on 1/28/2006 3:28 PM:
>>>>> Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> roN wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>>>>>>> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>>>>>>> Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you!
>>>>>> The Magic 8-Ball^W^W^W JavaScript Console says: "You are not
>>>>>> declaring your
>>>>>> variables. You should declare them using the `var' keyword."
>>>>> I couldn't find that javascript validator... :( can you please post
>>>>> its url? Thank you!
>>>> Tools>Web Development>Javascript Console in Firefox.
>>> Hm, it returns only css errors but
>>>[/color]
>>[/color][/color]
http://jigsaw.w3.org/css-validator/v...usermedium=all[color=blue][color=green][color=darkred]
>>> shows that everything is okay so I don't really know if I can trust this
>>> 'Javascript' Console...[/color]
>>
>> No more hints? :([/color]
>
> OK, here is one:
>
> If jigsaw doesn't report an error.
> Mozilla reports an error.
>
> Trust Mozilla. After all, it is the one that has to *display* the
> document and if it says it doesn't like something, then bet it doesn't
> like it.[/color]

But I can't really read it, it says like:

if I enter [http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm] and press [Evaluate]
it shows:
syntax error
http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
--------------------------------^

what does that mean???
[color=blue]
>[color=green]
>> Thank you![/color]
>
> Welcome.
>
>
> Besides, what does "not in IE" mean? Explain the error because saying it
> "doesn't work" is about as useful towards finding a solution as me
> saying "It's in your code" is useful as an answer.[/color]

Well, yes, okay i have some buttons and on the right hand side of these
there is a gradient from blue to white (in FF) which reses itself when
resizing the window but only in FF, IE doesn't display it at all... :(
Why not?


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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN said the following on 1/29/2006 9:25 PM:[color=blue]
> Randy Webb wrote:
>[color=green]
>> Besides, what does "not in IE" mean? Explain the error because saying it
>> "doesn't work" is about as useful towards finding a solution as me
>> saying "It's in your code" is useful as an answer.[/color]
>
> Well, yes, okay i have some buttons and on the right hand side of these
> there is a gradient from blue to white (in FF) which reses itself when
> resizing the window but only in FF, IE doesn't display it at all... :(
> Why not?[/color]

<url: http://www.petitiononline.com/msiepng/ >

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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN wrote:
[color=blue]
> Lee wrote:
>[color=green]
>> roN said:[color=darkred]
>>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>>>It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>>>Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you![/color]
>>
>> "but not in Explorer" isn't enough information for me to want to bother
>> to look
>> at it. Can you do better?[/color]
>
> yes, sorry, okay here we go:
> The image changes its size when resizing the browser good in Firefox but
> not in IE. In IE there's just no image displayed, why not? Thank you!
>[/color]

No more hints on that issue? :(
Thank you!
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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

>roN wrote:[color=blue]
>
>No more hints on that issue? :(
>Thank you!
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>
>I'm root, I'm allowed to do this! ;)
>keep on rockin'[/color]

dO U NeeD mORe hiNTs? msie IS nOT PNG coMpaTIble, yoU wIll HaVE 2
coNSideR UsinG An AlTerNatiVe IMage FOrmat.

Rgds,
Nicolas

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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN said the following on 2/1/2006 8:03 PM:[color=blue]
> roN wrote:[/color]

<snip>
[color=blue][color=green]
>> The image changes its size when resizing the browser good in Firefox but
>> not in IE. In IE there's just no image displayed, why not? Thank you!
>>[/color]
>
> No more hints on that issue? :(
> Thank you![/color]

Did you bother reading the URL I posted? It explains, quite well, that
IE does not support the PNG Format and that is why you do not see the
image in IE.

<url: http://www.petitiononline.com/msiepng/ >
<quote>
The PNG image format was designed to be a replacement for the GIF
format, due to both copyright and design problems with GIF. However, the
latest version of Microsoft Internet Explorer (MSIE) still does not have
full and proper support for the image format
</quote>

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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

roN wrote:[color=blue]
> Hi,
>
> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in Explorer...why
> not? What to change? Thank you![/color]


What 'doesn't work'? Are you referring to the blue line on the top
right after the 'contact' link that in Firefox extends to the right but
doesn't in IE?

Have a look at the HTML generated for right.png by a script element and
document.write. It generates (in IE):

<IMG height=20 alt=right src="images/right.png" width=NaN>


Note that the width attribute has an invalid value. In Firefox (for me)
it generates:

<img src="images/right.png" alt="right" height="20" width="418">


I think the real issue is trying to use JavaScript to do what should be
done with CSS. Ask in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets to
get help with that.



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re: Firefox, NN but not IE???

RobG wrote:
[color=blue]
> roN wrote:[color=green]
>> Hi,
>>
>> I got following: http://www.inetgate.ch/design.htm
>> It works in Firefox and in Netscape nice 'n fine but not in
>> Explorer...why not? What to change? Thank you![/color]
>
>
> What 'doesn't work'? Are you referring to the blue line on the top
> right after the 'contact' link that in Firefox extends to the right but
> doesn't in IE?[/color]

Yes, correct...
[color=blue]
> Have a look at the HTML generated for right.png by a script element and
> document.write. It generates (in IE):
>
> <IMG height=20 alt=right src="images/right.png" width=NaN>[/color]

why NaN?

[color=blue]
> Note that the width attribute has an invalid value. In Firefox (for me)
> it generates:
>
> <img src="images/right.png" alt="right" height="20" width="418">[/color]

in Firefox it's running cleanly 'n correctly, like excpected[color=blue]
>
> I think the real issue is trying to use JavaScript to do what should be
> done with CSS. Ask in comp.infosystems.www.authoring.stylesheets to
> get help with that.[/color]

I can try, asking there... But I'm interested in the IE issue anyway, I'd
appreciate if you'd be able to help me!
Thank you!

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